One other thing to mention is that your headlights may be clouded due to UV.

Its worthwhile giving them a polish, to get them transparent again, you can use specific polish/restorer kit or something like Peek or Autosol.

Dannyh

Not saying you are wrong but the opposite happened in my company, we received extra hols over the 28 minimum as we were losing employees to our workforce competitors.

Skilled jobs I’ll admit.

Thanks TJ at least I can research those people now and get an idea of why they might be interested in lowering standards.

Some reading for you… the writers are not in hiding… they are now government ministers…

These people come across on this thread as the front men and are derided as idiots, its implied on this thread that there are people behind the government seeking to lower standards, who are they?

Folks please outline once and for all for myself and others exactly who is behind this lowering of standards? Names please?

You say the current gov are the frontmen for them, who are they?

I genuinely want to know.

I’m fully on board now with brexit being a very bad idea, I’m still not onboard with it being a conspiracy to make lives worse for everyone or lower standards, if that was the case why look at the american model and not the chinese one?

Are they not somewhat constrained by the existing status quo in the country? Current laws, british standards etc? I would hope that progress on these and many others would be hard to reverse in the space of 4 years?

Am I wrong? is there any precedent for regression in this country? Zero hours contracts spring to mind but these are obviously ok under EU laws.

Watching the newborns?

Once ‘free’ of the EU, the executive in the UK is completely unrestrained in what it can do. To all intents and purposes, it has a blank sheet of paper to effectively write its own constitution. That constitution may end up being wordy, but it can be summed up in one sentence:

I get to do what the ****ing hell I like and there’s absolutely nothing you can do to stop me.

The electorate can choose to change the government.

I think people become educated in things they are interested in, its not about being incapable of understanding it. I understood maths when I was learning it but I had no interest in it and did badly at exams.

I remember someone overtaking me when their VTEC kicked in, the engine blew. Made me smile.

Same in N.I, we have a rose with a flower on it, the rose cuttings are still growing. Very mild!

Thanks loum same to you

Eskay, all docs/nurses involved in cancer treatment and care have been great to me and I’m sure your wife is very much in the same mould.

Cancer treatment and care has continued throughout this year, I have had all blood tests and scans required for my screening plan. The olny difference has been that appointments are over telephone instead of face to face at the cancer centre. I am low risk and cant vouch for others experiences but I’m sure if someone as low risk as me can be looked after then others a receiving similar care.

The 2007 mondeo had two unfixable leaks, had been crashed once and likely had something wrong with the chassis. Scrap. Only had 130000 miles too.

Regards the OPs car, if its 18years then it should have 180000-200000 miles with normal use. If it cant be repaired for MOT then it is scrap and should be scrapped. I wouldn’t feel right knowing someone was potentially driving my Mondeo, it was unsafe.

18 years is very old

If its 18 years old it should probably be scrapped, I scrapped mine, I didnt want to sell it to someone and have something happen to them. It was a 2007 mondeo, the local dismantlers gave me £130 cash for it and took it away from my house. No hassle, no haggling and I know if it goes back on the road then I’m not responsible for anything that happens.

Odd attachment is great, especially when you find out what it is :D

My dad always says that, sympathy comes between sh** and syphilis in the dictionary.

They should look at green belts, replacement dwellings, increasing second home stampduty and help to buy schemes which are better then low interest ISAs.

Actually investigating whats holding up planning would probably result in more houses being built.

Welding or ‘hot work’ is a major cause of industrial accidents.

https://www.ehstoday.com/safety/article/21915083/csb-dupont-overlooked-hazards-in-fatal-welding-explosion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEPCON_disaster#Fire_and_explosions

I went to Pamporovo as a complete novice, really enjoyed it, stayed in hotel Orlovets, there were a couple of good bars for the evening near the hotel. There was a great bar on the slopes called Bohemi which did great pizzas and local sausage. It was a great holiday and for a beginner the coaching was good and as we never got past blue/beginner red slopes, there was plenty of room to progress. Another plus, it is so cheap!

We can’t allow things to get to the point where nobody can open their mouth for fear of retribution or losing their job. That does not make for a good society. Views should definitely be challenged but people should not be persecuted.

We need to exhibit a small degree of ‘ignore-culture’. One possibly misguided opinion does not make a persons views or contribution to society completely irrelevant.

Good one, each time you say no it gets easier

Good luck, I’m still going after packing it in at the end of June 2019, with the exception of a glass of bubbles on christmas day (and the odd erdinger alcohol free if they count). It gets easier and easier as you go along and I rarely miss it these days apart from the taste (beer/sambuca/jager oddly).

Its a good challenge which in my case has led to better quality of life.

Reluctant- I understand your view on Nationalism, I thank that was part of my thinking, why be part of a small club when in reality we want to be part of the bigger all world club and as you say technology allows for that.

Anyway, on the EU army, yes NATO is becoming less relevant with Trumps comments but as the EU we still need to defend the eastern border. I’m not against cooperation as long as it is pointed in the right direction and an EU army would probably be relevant in the context of defence from the east.

Guys I’ll say it again, thanks for all your comments, I’ve come full circle. To avoid being asked the same questions for which I have no logical answer and by ever increasing numbers of people, I will bow out of this thread.

Thanks for helping me learn to challenge deep held ideas.

For all of our sakes I hope Brexit can work out.

Pretty sure I mentioned NATO in one of my comments and I meant 28 national interests not 28 separate chains of command.

Kelvin I’ve come a long way in a short time, it would be nice if you tried to engage me in a slightly less condescending tone

I quoted the Merkle thing from the same article cougar. Sometimes politicians do say what they really mean though. Also two different people can read things in an entirely different way based on bias.

On the choices, yes you are right number 1 is the most sensible I tried to explain that the EU has a currency but not an Army. To be honest an Army run by 28 nations would have a hard time working out where it’s orders were coming from

I tried to explain that the EU motto is ever closer. I really don’t know how to explain my EU as a state idea so you don’t need to push on it.

They looked pretty handy to me

Youre right, Ive admitted as much in my apology. However I don’t need analogies im not a child. Malvern asked me a question.

gonna say Diamond?

or the outer atmosphere/ionosphere?

Because everything comes to an end, every country and nation comes to an end and changes, and yes the EU has been stable for 40 years but thats a blink of an eye in human history. So what is the direction? Maintaining the status quo will lead to stagnation, so where does ever closer lead?

Yes I am sincere you guys have taught me alot, and I have to admit I was heavily biased to vote leave by my father. My father said that to have a nation you need a currency and an army, we have the euro so ….

Edit I knew it wasnt plucked from thin air,

German chancellor Merkel said “we ought to work on the vision of one day establishing a proper European army” in her address to the European Parliament in November 2018

On my gut feeling

Its the whole ever closer thing, where does it end? I saw how Tony Blair teamed up with USA to take us into two wars which I was desperately against, yes I know NATO could do the same. I just imagined a time when we are so integrated with the EU that we now have a bloc which can field an army, we don’t need more armies.

The EU has never stated what the end goal of union is, is it to maintain the status quo until the end or will it become one large federal state?

I also fear us being so entwined in the whole thing that if it does come down we end up even worse off.

You can laugh at my fears but are they relevant? Yes gut feelings are logically irrational but they exist and cant be ignored.

Genuinely not trolling though.

And im still a eurosceptic

Ok, you guys are right, I’ve done my best, I’m wrong. I’m nieve but I’ve learned a lot from this.

Apologies for wasting your time. If I waste any more of mine I’ll get sacked and I wont be able to blame brexit

Even if the price of that deal is a reduction in employment protection to us standards to remain competitive?

Do you think that’s on the cards? I thought part of the Gov manifesto was to improve min wage/rights etc?

^. Bingo. I suspected as much but remained polite

Euroscepticism was my main motivator at the time

Do you stand to benefit from it? If so, how?

My company sells a lot into the US market, a trade deal would no doubt help us

I think I’m still allowed to challenge the, “everyone is stupid we are smarter attitude” which previals on STW.

Its a pity they didnt do an IQ test as the exit poll, we could have used it to discount a lot of votes

Education as in the issue of remain/ leave or education in general?