Sooo dazh how are you personally going to create jobs, capital and tax take? Now you have a brave new world?

He can spend his money in the UK

Possible positive for me?

N.Ireland is now in two markets, I expect local firms are already working out how to exploit this.

It’s easy enough for them to remove the words off their webpage, but maybe they just wanted to show the UK the ‘finger’?

Why? They are a business. Petulence shouldn’t even come into it.

Maybe I should just breed Glass-Eels now that the Brexiter mentioned above can’t export to the EU 🙂

Glass eels are destined for the Asian market surely?

Therefore from mid December 2020 onward we ship to every country in the world… except the UK.

There’s a major failure of logic in that statement, outlined by the above quote. They should have simply said “we will not sell to UK until we work out how to.”

More trite, substance-less bollocks from another Brexie who hasn’t got the first clue about what they voted for. Or does know, but doesn’t really want to say.

Tedious, tedious, tedious.

Four and a half ****ing years and what?

Blue passports?

Why don’t you just come out and admit it. YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT ANY POSITIVES ARE OR EVEN MIGHT BE.

Earlier in this thread I tried to put forward positives and I’ll admit I couldn’t, we don’t know them yet. I agreed that Brexit was a mistake. What I can’t agree with is the sheer amount of negative, conspiratorial tripe spouted on here by negative people who lack the imagination to move on. There will be winners and losers like everything in life.

Jesus, it’s like talking to brainwashed cultists. If you can’t think of the potential advantages of any country or government having greater freedom to set policy as they see fit then you need to think harder.

100%

It’s a new rulebook for the same game,learn the rules and make them work for you. Move on, the world keeps on spinning.

NI one of the poorest regions of the UK, in fact one of the poorest areas in Western Europe. The uk is doing a fine job!

By what measure? Will this change under dail rule?

I used ” the republic of Ireland ” and “northern ireland” with ” the island of Ireland ” for the whole thing.

I got told off on here for this

I say call them what you want and don’t worry about it, as these are correct terms I don’t know why you would get told off for using them.

There was a paramilitary presence in both sides of the divide only one was less state-sponsored.

I’m talking about the current structure of an all ireland party, the ones that went to a funeral during lockdown because their leadership demanded it. The same party who would vie to govern us in the event of a united ireland. I’m not trying to “whatabout” by the way, just trying to highlight to people on here what we would get when the “good nationalists” take control.

Yes I believe they would give up their role in NI for the forthcoming united Ireland.

Being a tad cynical imagine the amount of politicians who’ll be claiming to have reunited Ireland.

Well I hope that in our future United Ireland we never have them as a majority government. A Marxist government with a parmilitary council in command isn’t what I want, and I’m sure they wouldn’t view the EU with any less contempt than the UK gov.

I never know how we are meant to refer to the political entities on the island of Ireland

I used the bbc names and got told off so help me with this please

What are the BBC names?

Not really, they are engaging in the political process to further a united Ireland much like they do in the rest of Ireland, as per the gfa. We’ve seen the old ways of doing things, the guns are largely away. But you knew all that anyway, cheeky scamp.

Do you think that SFs political ambitions will let them give up powersharing and control in N.I and become a minority party in a united ireland? I (cynically) think they have a vested interest in the status quo, its all smoke and mirrors.

sovereign individual

Yes, thats the bible isn’t it? One book, written by one man, in 1996.

Only YOUR own money will shelter you from the effects of leaving the EU… there is no “we” in this… if you don’t have the money, or a route to EU citizenship… you will be screwed over in all this… there is no one acting in your interests I’m afraid.

Kelvin, this country consists of a lot more people than those who reside in downing street, there are many people who have your interests at heart, who spend public money on your behalf, take your conspiracy hat off and look around at the real people who surround you, the 95% who have jobs and contribute, thats who the country is, not some shadowy elite. BTW Dyson hasn’t left, he is a big landowner in England and still employs people in agricultural development to the benefit of UK agri.

We had an envious amount of vetos and special arrangements that meant we could pretty much cherry-pick what EU rules we wanted to accept. Not switching to the Euro for example.
And why didn’t we “just say no” to things that weren’t in our best interest if the option was there?

Is this in the same way that the EU parliament will be able to say no to the deal?

Up there with anti-Papism creationalism and say no to sodomy no doubt. Times are changing traditional unionism and Britain interfering in Ireland are dying, good riddance.

I agree, unfortunately hardline nationalism isn’t following it. A UK government governing in a part of the UK is not interfering however, an aside to this is that SF are quite happy to govern N.I on behalf of Britain, its a paradox.

You are correct, but who are “we” in that context dougie?

A citizen of the UK (I assume) who has benifitted from living in it and will continue to do so should you wish.

Everyone forgets that its all just business, money talks and we still have it.

There are parts of your “south” further north than a good chunk of NI. Your lack of geographical knowledge surprises me not a jot either.

Keep going though. 😀

Likewise for your geographical patronising

There’s only one Ireland – the English divided it.

True, but thats were we are we have to deal with it in a reasonable way.

I bet you call the 26 counties “Southern Ireland” don’t you?

No everyone calls it “the south”

To describe opposing that as a rightful grievance would be giving it a validity it wouldn’t deserve.

It would be very valid to them

If they love the U.K. so much they should bloody well go and live there.

They do

it’s basically another form of general taxation. i think you knew what the implication was.

Which also has nothing to do with the EU

If a citizen of the UK pays national insurance in N.I do you think they will vote to strip themselves of the benefits that provides by voting to leave the EU?

Oh.

National insurance has nothing to do with the E.U

Some are and soon it’ll be the minority that don’t want a united Ireland. Brexit will be a factor, which is kinda funny given the Unionist politician’s fervour for it and the extent Britain stiffed them as soon as it became expedient to do so.

I am Irish and I’m in favour of a united Ireland.

Yes.

Thats fine I’ve no problem with that but I think the assumptions being made by nationalists regarding demographics and polling are naive to say the least (they are driven by SF who are a one trick pony). They ignore the moderates who very much like the standard of living the UK provides along with the obvious and very rightful grievance which will be felt by unionists.

Because they’re Irish. The polls are already close for a united Ireland and Brexit will, hopefully, push that further. Birth rate and brexit will sort it out soon enough.
Pensions, health care etc do exist in RoI to.

Not all are Irish, some are British.
Do you have a vested interest in a united ireland Kilo? Are you an Irish nationalist?
If a citizen of the UK pays national insurance in N.I do you think they will vote to strip themselves of the benefits that provides by voting to leave the UK?

Its very much not a forgone conclusion, a lot of people like being part of the UK and the standard of living it provides provided

Many contributors on this thread only seem to deal in hypotheticals.

The fact is that the UK currently provides.

Yes the financial sector is global not eurocentric the UK is very well placed to deal in this sector very much because of our geographical location/timezone and the fact that we speak English as our first language.

Brexit or not that won’t change.

Lot of talk of iScotland, but what about NI? Are we not discussing it much because it’s a foregone conclusion?

Does anyone think reunification won’t happen in the next 10 years?

Its very much not a forgone conclusion, a lot of people like being part of the UK and the standard of living it provides, the R.O.I is a very different country in terms of cost of living, healthcare etc. Not to mention the role reversal that would occur between the main parties.

Its easy for people in GB to come to this conclusion because they don’t understand the reality of living here.

Contrary to many peoples fanciful imaginings on this thread, the NHS and state pension/benefit/welfare state do still exist, why would the people of N.I suddenly chose to lose these things?

Strange opinions on here;

Scottish/Irish nationalism = Good
English/Welsh nationalism = Bad

Lauded on one hand condemned on the other.

Looks like we are signatories of ACTA outside of the EU. According to the map key on that page

It’s definitely gone to the wire in order to force both parliaments into agreement. My cynical hat would say that this pleases the EU as much as Bojo and chums.

I’d say the lorries have focused our negotiators attention on the importance of a deal.

I’ll ask again, why on earth the EU parliament would vote down anything which was negotiated by the EU appointed negotiators?

En anglais?

The deal if it exists is being brokered on behalf of the 27 nations, by the EU as a whole, therefore none of them should have reason to refuse.

So did Macron’s lorry park swing the deal? I’m being facetious BTW

RE. Cherbourg. 18hrs ferry ride to end up 100 miles from where you need to be wont be viable in the long run though will it?

Thermomix ;)

I think there is another side to mask wearing in asia which is underreported. They wear face coverings in order to protect their skin from the sun, tans are not well regarded.

W angielski?

We had saved a deposit, so took out a no-tie-in mortgage on the new place, which allowed us to keep the buying and selling process seperate. However we had to have the the stamp duty and fortunately we completed the sale not long after the purchase. A no tie in will let you pay off as much as you want, with the penalty of slightly higher % rate.