I bought a 2012 five frame with Ccdb, still preferred my old blur 4x. but hated having to put bearings and bushes in the bastard every couple of months. Think I’m still adapting to it perhaps? im going to try a 2010 Rp23xv I got off a mate as I found it a bit dead on trails, but it did piss past a bloke on a trek session up cwmcarn dh.