mccett – Sounds brilliant! Any pics yet???

I dont need mine at all. But I wanted one. And I love it. Much like we dont NEED 2 or 3 bikes, or 27 gears, or titanium frames etc. Its all personal preference!
No offence taken by the way!! :P

It was tough last year. Definitely tough and drop out rates were pretty high, but thats what made it more enjoyable!

Brilliant event!!

The wheels are only 6 months old, but could do with a service after Kielder 100. Ill try the plastic tyre levers, but not sure how theyre going to get any purchase. The cap is sitting pretty flush with the part below it?

On a slight tangent – does anybody have problems popping the seal cap off the rear drive side on a hope spxc3? I cannot, for love nor money, get that thing to pop off……

Its not too bad at that time – plus im guessing you have lights!?
Its not valentines day til the sunday! Good thing is you can be back for midday if you dont hang around. Still then got rest of the day to do every thing else!

jonb – Just realised. I think you may be jon bayley from gosforth RC? If so, I dont know if youre heading out for the club run this weekend, but I'll be leaving early (0730) from Regent Centre for an hour and a half before the club run starts. I usually do a loop out towards Tranwell and then head back for the start of the club ride. Let me know if you fancy it.
Meant to say, I'm Rich Holland – the guy from the Gosforth forum!

I know some guys slept in cars behind the pub just down from the castle. Otherwise you'd have to pay to stay in the campsite. Plenty of space though. Theres also some kind of camping pods there IIRC.

plenty of camping space at the kielder campsite. Only a 3 or 4 minute walk to the start line at the castle. Plenty of midges tho – bring the repellent!!
It was also pretty boggy last year, so for me at least, wellies were a must!!

I'll be there on Sunday too! hoping any ice melts……

spot on coffeeking with regards using the 2nd lane. theres absolutely no need to sit and queue in just one lane. hence there are two lanes open until the merge point.

Seconded boxelders comments regarding mind over pain ability. I reckon once you've reached a certain fitness level, the ability to just keep grinding away is what gets you to the finish in a lot of cases.
Just go with a mindset that youre going to finish come hell or highwater!!

I ride with those Recons. Certainyl can't grumble with them at all. Done an oil change on them and theyre as plush as the day they came out the factory!

+1 for dog and gun. Their food is pretty good too.
Oddfellows is alright ish next to the moot hall.

flippinheckler – a shame they didnt do that now!

Incredible woman.

into thin air is a brilliant read – I couldn't put it down! If a little Texan in his writing style.

This was it – well worth a watch!

Woody – Member
dickydutch wrote

Including where Rob Hall is dying

Which film/documentary was that ?

It was something I saw when Rheged (Sp?) had the mountaineering museum and were showing films on their IMAX screen. Truly harrowing.

Id definitely do it given the opportunity. Like TJ I've read plenty and seen many documentaries about it. (Including where Rob Hall is dying and calls his wife who is at home to name their unborn child – truly moving and the last time I shed a tear in a film!) I don't know why, and I do know it's hugely selfish, but I'd still go.

:lol:

Quayside has died on its arse recently. All new bars down Collingwood Street, right next to central station.
Other than that, get a taxi to the Ouseburn area. Loads of good pubs, serving decent food too. You could "Go Ape" over at Matfen/Stamfordham way during the day if you were bereft of something to do!

Doesn't look too good……

I havent seen the previous links to this, but read about it at the weekend. If she came in to my shop, in her pyjamas, I'd not serve her either. She's a slob.

Ive never seen one off road, although admittedly, I have heard good things! nto convinced they'd out do a defender mind……

DaRC_L – Was that meant for me?
EDIT – just realised it was in reply to my statement about rebuilding a Series 11. I think anyway.

Imprerssive culinary skills there!! Must try that!

Success!!

This is mine:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36945553@N07/4241339645/
I apologise – I can't for the life of me work out how to get in on here. Right clickign it to find the URL for it only gives me the above, which doesnt seem to work when encased with the "IMG" button?

DaRC_L
Thats what I intend to do. The Series 11 is, in my eyes, one of the most beautiful looking cars ever made!!

I didn't realise there were so many fans on here!!
I love mine. Wouldn't be without it.

Any further news? Did the OP get one?!

nonk – what building was it you climbed?

Graham S.
We're going to have to agree to disagree I'm afraid.

barnsleymitch.
I understand and appreciate you have more relevant experience than me – indeed, I have zero relevant experience.
I feel a lot of it boils down to the fact that recently, parents seem to be able to leave their kids to do whatever they want, with little or no consequence. I thinkt he whole system needs addressing fromt he bottom up.
I enjoyed the verbal spar!

barnsleymitch – Member
dickydutch – I find your suggestion that I feel the most appropriate course of action regarding the two boys would be to 'use them as a study to understand why they did it' both naive and insulting -(I presume that the comment was aimed at either me or TJ). You're absolutely right, the victims lives have effectively been ruined, and our priorities should lie with them, but the children who carried out the attack had their lives ruined a long time ago. It's not exactly rocket science to figure out why they did it either – no boundaries, 'parents' who never gave a toss, exposure to drink and drugs, overexposure to sex and violence – not difficult is it? If anyone should be 'punished', it's the parents, but that's unlikely to happen, and ultimately wont make what happened go away.

Fair cop. It has come across like that though – admittedly not from yourself when re-reading.
You seem to imply that the kids shouldn't be punished though? That, to me, is illogical. It certainly doesn't teach them to be responsible for their own actions.

No GrahamS. I didn't say the devil made them do it, did I now?!

So what made them "evil" if it wasn't psychology or the devil? Martians maybe?

"Evil" is a cop out word that people use to reassure themselves.
It suggests that some other thing is responsible.

What they did was evil, but to suggest they simply did it because "they're evil" is as meaningful as saying they were possessed by demons.

How is it a cop out word? It's an adjective as per:

Evil–adjective 1. morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.
2. harmful; injurious: evil laws.
3. characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous: to be fallen on evil days.
4. due to actual or imputed bad conduct or character: an evil reputation.
5. marked by anger, irritability, irascibility, etc.: He is known for his evil disposition

Sadly no reference to martians, or how it is used as a form of reassuring oneself that something else is responsible for the depraved actions of someone.

GrahamS – Member

No psychology about this and that. They're evil. Simple.

You mean the devil made them do it?

Maybe we should consult a priest.

No GrahamS. I didn't say the devil made them do it, did I now?!

barnsleymitch – Member
"What surer way to minimise the risk of reoffending than to lock them up forever?"
Because life sentences in this country only rarely mean life. If you look back at my other posts on here, I'm sure you'll see that I'm not saying they shouldnt have recieved a custodial sentence, but should be given adequate and appropriate help whilst serving that sentence – I agree that what they did was vile, evil even, but the bottom line is that they are children.

The bottom line is surely that they have ruined somebody's life. They have lost all their rights to any sense of normal life. If this involves locking them up and forgettign about them, then so be it. They do not DESERVE to be allowed to walk the streets. Not for the fact that they may reoffend, (as already said, probably likely) but because they simply no not DESERVE to be around. If they had done the same to my children, I wouldn't be concerned about using them as a study to understand why they did it. I know why they did it. Their parents are idiots. The kids are ten, and in my eyes, completely aware of what they were doing. No psychology about this and that. They're evil. Simple.

+1 for 5thElefant

And ban those frigging stupid hoddies which also have a face part in the style of a WW2 gas mask.

What surer way to minimise the risk of reoffending than to lock them up forever?
It's hardly a trivial offence is it. One strike (in this case, one hell of a strike), you're out.