I have these on my stage 4, they are pretty decent but id take a set of pikes all day long. Straight out of the box with one token in they are an unrideable boingy mess imo, ive settled on 4 tokens now but even with say a 5ft drop for example i cant get the last 10mm of travel, defo the way to go though if you ride agressive as they still stay composed with fast repeated hits. I did use 3 tokens for a few rides and this would probably suit quite a lot of people to.