If its for a youngster then it needs to be fun.
Please add some Simpsons stickers and handlebar tassels.

It’s the music I’ve listened to most.
Great for having on when doing work stuff.
A beautiful, mumbling, shimmering urban noise.

I need sugar. I need a little water sugar

Do you really not differentiate between me and a member of ISIS?

You are both people who are prepared to kill and be killed in support of a set of beliefs.

Whether it’s individuals cutting heads off or blowing people up with drones, I don’t see a great deal of difference.

Whether it’s done for religious beliefs or for Queen and country, I think the mindset is similar.

But the UK media presents one group as heroic, noble and brave and the other lot as cowardly and deranged, as sub-human savages.

As you suggest, the world is not like that. It’s annoyingly grey and fuzzy.

By that measure, how many has Britain First killed?
A million people who have pressed a like button on a website? Hardly a threat.

If you hold those kind of extremist views and want to kill people then you can join the army. I would imagine there are many serving soldiers who are also supporters of Britain First.

And there are incidents like this which have gained very little national media attention:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mold-tesco-attack-trial-zack-9524001

Students. Switch off!!!
You’ve done it all term in lectures.
Now, do it with your electrical gubbins…and have a nice Crimbo.

My only bike is old Courier Comp with biopace. Don’t know if it makes any difference but I just like the fact that it’s a bit wonky.

Extremist nutters can always find some form of twisted logic to justify their actions.

True, including the need to destroy imaginary WMDs.

Is it the ones lobbing homosexuals off buildings? Burning people in cages? Cutting heads of with knives? The ones with slave markets?

I agree. Those are all examples of extremism.

But personally, I would also include invading, bombing and destroying foreign contries as a form of extremism.

Also the behaviour of those soldiers who tortured and humiliated prisoners in Abu Ghraib, they display a similar extremist mindset.

Along with the streams of comments on UK news sites calling for people to be wiped out, annhilated, nuked, slaughtered etc.

I watched one of the IS videos on the Vice News youtube channel, linked above. Watched the father of a young child tell him to tell the camera that infidels in Belgium must die, is truly heartbreaking. The kids body language tells it all. It’s a very worrying time ahead.

What I don’t get is how you view this as heartbreaking and wrong – an example of dangerous extremism. But UK society does something very similar and nobody’s that bothered.

The armed forces in the UK are idolised. We are one of, if not the only, country in Europe to allow the military to visit/recruit in schools.

Our media constantly pumps out the idea that British soldiers are brave, honorable and heroic. We have Armed Forces fun days for all the family.

There are few things more respected in Britain than a dead or wounded soldier.

To fight and kill for Queen and country is something we actively push young people to do. And it’s these young people who carry out the bombings and invasions of foreign countries.

Who are the extremists?

All but one of them denounced the actions of the nutters but one lad (white, working class) was adamant that they were right to believe in something enough to die for it even if that meant killing others too. Only one in 30, but extrapolated lazily that’s 50 students in this school already open to the ideas of extremism…

That’s exactly why the armed forces puts so much effort into visiting schools. But obviously killing people for a belief in Queen and country isn’t extremism…it’s noble, brave and honorable.

France has responded exactly how ISIS and other radical groups wanted them to respond. It’s depressing no Western leaders see this is a trap. More cynically, I’d suggest they use the fear which terrorism breeds to build their own political popularity by sending in the planes.

I think you’re right and that both sides are willing to play the same game – for different reasons. For US and UK, it’s a policy of perpetual warfare.

Ticks lots of boxes. Shows leaders to be strong. Maintains investment in military industry. Provides dead and injured soldiers to idolise. Fosters patriotism. Justifies removal of freedoms. Generally keeps society fearful and more manageable.

The BBC should apply the same logic to their boss – so called Lord Hall. His actual name is Tony.

we are not disputing that Jihadi John was a vile piece of shit. he is a murderer plain and simple but glorifying his death will serve no purpose.

How do we know he killed anyone? It seems to be based purely on what the intelligence services say. Or is there some other reason for such certainty?

its all propaganda from both sides and its a load of bollocks.

I think that about covers it. It all seems murky and odd. The media highlights a number of UK individuals who appear in glossy ISIS propoganda. They are then killed without any questions being asked.

it is pretty worrying when someone who is/was intelligent starts reading a load of propaganda that makes no sense, having been open minded and being brought up in the UK.

All of us are exposed to propoganda and it’s much more effective when you don’t recognise it. It helps to create beliefs and attitudes that could also be considered warped and irrational.

Then again I don’t understand the English who run off to fight with Isis (according to my mate, he also thinks Isis is fake and is being controlled by the CIA)

I think this is an example. Do you also struggle to understand those English who run off to bomb and shoot people in foreign lands on behalf of the UK military? Are they extremists?

I’m too scared to leave that first place. I’ve tidied everything up – cleared up loads of rubbish, started crafting and have found a dog companion. Not sure I want to leave now.

First thing I always stick on is an app called Call Confirm. It checks that you want to phone a number before it phones a number. It’s dead useful because it’s easy to phone numbers accidentally on Android.

Dimbelby concluded along the lines – “its not the glory but the horror of war that we are remembering – lest we forget”

So I’d imagine they didn’t forget to have plents of groups representing the main victims of war in the ceremony – which is civilians.

As for the propaganda poppycock – we have become much, much more discerning and critical in how we look at history and the wars in particular. Less and less of a noble cause, more and more of a pitiful waste of lives. That’s a good thing.

War is a horrible, horrible thing.

Can’t see much sign of this.

The poppyfest at this time of year does the exact opposite of what you say. It rebrands war as something heroic, noble and kind of spiritual.

The language constantly used deliberately removes the brutal reality of war. People didn’t die, they ‘fell’ or were ‘lost’ or made the ‘ultimate sacrifice’.

Any soldier who is injured in war is automatically a hero – even if they aren’t. They are idolised by the media and the establishment.

It’s daft. It’s doing the complete opposite of what you claim.

Well, I’ll wear mine, if that’s ok.
You know, out of respect to my mates that got beaten by the clock.
Sorry if that doesn’t sit well with some.
Actually, I’m not sorry.
At all.

Don’t think you’ve really got a problem if you want to wear a poppy. The problem is for people who don’t. It has become virtually impossible for anyone to appear in the media without wearing one. Seems like the BBC actively prevents people from appearing if they don’t conform.

Don’t wear a poppy because I don’t believe in glorifying the military.
Its meaning has drifted to include all of our ‘brave boys’ and I don’t think it’s particularly tragic when a professional soldier is killed while invading another country for no particular reason.

Your optician says you need varifocals. Happened today. Stupid eyes