Well, that’s nothing more than speculation and your opinion. I’m sure Max and Perez will have it sorted by the next race. Then you’ll all have to find something else to whinge about. 🤣

But isn’t it more that the faster driver (in this case Max) is able to help development more, as it’s just common sense to go in that direction? If you want to win WCs, then you’re not going to make things more equal to the detriment of performance, are you? So the car ends up ‘suiting’ the faster driver more, because that’s just logical.

And… we’re back to the nonsense. Love it! 🤣🧂

You would, being the source of a lot of it

Miaow! 🤣 🧂

I think it’s fairer to say that the gap between Perez and Verstappen widened significantly after Canada when the car was developed in a way that more suited Verstappen, up until that point they were (when they finished) much closer.

But Verstappen was already ahead by some margin. Obviously RB would have developed the car to suit their better driver, that’s just common sense. Drivers are usually closer at the beginning of the season, when they’re both in a new car. But Verstappen had already outpointed Perez by a margin of over 2:1 the previous season anyway. I was responding to the ridiculous notion that Verstappen ‘only really shone once the car was changed to suit him over Perez’. Behave. He was WC ffs! He was already very shiny indeed!

No I’m not sure, I’m just speculating but I think Riccardo’s a decent driver, he’ll driving/testing in a car that suits his style better, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he finds his mojo again, whether he gets a chance to race (a longshot) is another matter

Would be good to see the kind of form he had early on at RB. But that seems to have evaporated.

Er….I think you’ll find he is, actually

Who by, Zak Brown? I really don’t think that’s a universal view. Solid, consistent driver though, no doubt. Future WC? Hmm.

That’s why he barged into Lewis so unnecessarily yesterday, although he’s won this season at a canter, in his head he is still racing those final few laps from last season.

I think he’s some way over that. Like, two DWCs over it…

Unlike Verstappen who only really shone once the car was changed to suit him over Perez.

🤣 Gotta love the fiction on here. What utter rot.

He claims I didn’t see him… I didn’t to be fair…I was watching the police van squeeze past me

Yeah I’d say you’re stuffed. Best suck it up and put it down to experience. Stuff happens, it’s life. Learn to look more. Use it as a teachable moment and move on, stronger and better.

because the car doesn’t like to be driven like he wants, he loses a ton of speed.

That just shows he’s unable to adapt like other drivers can, a crucial strength in F1 really. Ricciardo is a strange one; on his day, a match for anyone, very fast indeed. But he’s been humbled by Norris this season, and Norris isn’t exactly lauded as the next superstar. Has his motivation gone? Perhaps being a test driver will be good for him, he can concentrate on that job without worrying about race pressure. He’s definitely got the experience to give RB a lot, if he goes there.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him a lot closer to Max on the road

You sure? I’m not. I think Ricciardo needs to find his mojo if he’s to ever get back into F1 full time. Will he? He’ll have to really go some as a test driver, against some decent young talent, to convince any team to take him on. Maybe his chance has come and gone…

Interesting topic. Personally. I wouldn’t think twice about popping in to friend’s if I’m passing. Would seem ruder not to, tbh, unless I was in a hurry to get elsewhere. One particular family, I pop into a lot because they live right next to where I do a lot of food shopping, so I pop in for a chat/wee/cuppa etc. They do they same if passing us. People do pop into ours a fair bit; yes, they’ll often text ahead but it doesn’t matter either way. Friends are friends. If it’s not convenient, then say so. No problem, see you next time. No biggie.

Wonder if there’s a culture thing.

I think it’s probably quite complex. I’d say class has a part to play as well; it’s not something a lot of middle class folk do, is it? Lots of artificially imposed ‘rules’ and etiquette. I don’t have time for all that bollocks. But yes, maybe it’s a particularly ‘English’ middle class thing.

One and a half titles

Two.

FTFY. As maths clearly isn’t your strong point…

I think George and Lewis will have to watch each other tbh. That could get spicy. I hope it does!

No love for Ferrari at all? They’ve made some spectacular errors this year; if they could get it together, LeClerc could be in the mix too. Yes, he’s made some errors of his own, but perhaps that’s understandable given the lack of confidence he must have in his team. It would be nice to see Perez and Sainz improve, but sadly I doubt they have that extra 1% needed really.

Hmm. Russell had a tough year at Williams, so I think he’s served his ‘apprenticeship’. He’s inexperienced, but he’s shown some serious talent already. A good natural success to Hamilton then? Pressure must be on Lewis to outperform George next season, and I don’t think George is one to take that lying down. Hence why I am hoping for a good inter-team battle next year. Age and experience vs youthful exuberance. Let’s hope they can entertain us for a few seasons yet!

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Can I ask you why you posted that attempt at a personal attack, Chew?

in your opinion, did Max do the right thing?

As I said, I’m not interested in speculation. Only racing. I really couldn’t give two **** what he did/didn’t or why. I’m not that emotionally invested in ‘heroes and villains’ like some are.

IDGAF

IDGAF that YDGAF. So…

George Russell. Anybody? No? Russell? No?

Dust. Anybody? No?

Other than what he said, of course.

Which was based on what?

Irony.

How?

Do you think Max did the right thing?

I have no idea what informed Max’s decision to ignore team orders, and neither does anyone else. It’s all just speculation. I’m not really interested in that. If he’s got his reasons, that’s up to him.If he’s made a mistake, that’s up to him to admit it, it’s not for others to demand any particular behaviour from anyone. But what is very clear, is that he is a long way ahead of Perez in terms of talent, this is obvious. He’s an incredible driver, but also Human. All Humans are flawed. It’s very interesting how Hamilton’s various character ‘traits’ don’t get picked on on this thread, but Max’s do. I expect a degree of partizanship on a UK-based forum, but some of the nonsense on here is just angry bile. People need to have a word with themsleves.

And back to George Russell; he’s been so good this season, fully deserved something from it. I look forward to some proper inter-team battles at Mercedes, it would add excitement and drama. Bottas provided very little real competition for Hamilton, and competition is what the sport is all about. Whilst I’m happy for Max for winning in such an utterly dominant manner this seasons, I think the sport needs a much closer battle next season, or it’ll be at risk of getting boring again. Merc have really worked wonders to get back to the front; it’s Ferrari that need to be very worried. But as I said; a 3 or even 4-way battle for the title next season, would be fantastic.

There’s a lot to unpick here. Not least, “people will be enthusiastic about [something]” is wild speculation. Will they?

And, is that inherently bad?

I’m reminded of the arguments surrounding parents (mostly in the US I think) having their kids carry tracking devices, even having RFID chips implanted. And the pro arguments being centered around ‘safety’. But then there were counter arguments about stuff like consent, and the potential for abuse. We’ve already seen a few instances where AirTags or similar have been used for nefarious purposes. My feeling is that if there’s even just potential for abuse, we should be treading very cautiously indeed. I think Poly sums it up here:

Then things like Facebook and CA came along. Now they were doing sneaky, nasty shit with data specifically to manipulate people to do things. Were politicians aghast? Were they looking to toughen the powers of the ICO and criminalise using people’s data to manipulate them? No – really the opposite, political parties (and their funding influencers) were part of the bloody problem. Political leaders want to track more (like which internet sites we visit) and regulate less. Suddenly I’m not so sure I want to trust governments with this sort of data.

We’ve already seen how undercover police agents were used by UK governments, to spy on and undermine groups and organisations that were deemed a ‘threat’ to the state in some way or another (basically made up shit), and how this has undermined our democracy and rights. Add in modern technology, and this becomes even more insidious. I don’t trust the government one bit, and I trust the police even less. This is an abuse of power. I think Vegan rider raises a very good point re public willingness to accept such surveillance into their lives; we have less ‘privacy’ than we used to, via ‘phones, computers etc. Alexa and Siri are always listening. So I don’t think there’s any need to dismiss such views as ‘tinfoil hat nonsense’ etc, that’s just rude.

It was a very good weekend for George – but to claim he’s the new Messiah is a stretch.

Erm, I don’t think anyone’s doing that. But he is very talented, has outpointed a 7 time WC in their first full season racing in the same team, and has won a GP on merit. I think he deserves some credit, and it would be a little more positive on this thread if people were doing that instead of whinging about Max.

…I don’t think it’s only George that needs tissues either – you’ll be needing some soon! 🍆💦

Look Bez; emojis! Pigeons! 🐦🐦

And getting beaten. 🤣

Of course it’s subjective. But I have pointed out actual facts. You can’t argue with facts. Another good one is; in 2013, Vettel scored more points than Webber had that season and the last, combined. In the same car. Astonishing.

Anyway; George Russell’s amazing first GP win…

Yeah; WHATEVER. 👐 🤣 🧂

Anyway; George Russell! What an achievement to win his first F1 race!

which I considered to be

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I think you’re forgetting 2010, when Webber was ahead of Vettel heading into the final race. Ferrari saw Webber as the main threat to Alonso’s shot at the title so they covered him instead of watching both Red Bulls. Vettel was very lucky to win that championship. Webber had a decent lead over him with several races to go, but Red Bull would not impose team orders.

Blah. Webber lost. End of. 6-0 points for their full seasons together, 4-0 DWCs. Webber never finished the DWC higher than 3rd. Seb comprehensively destroyed Webber on each of the next 3 seasons. Sorry, but that’s just the facts. In 2010, Webber had a 27 point lead after 13 races. Seb finished higher than him in the next 6 races, including 3 race wins. Hardly ‘lucky’…

I was maybe naively working off a basis that a speaker unit would need to be visibly big to produce good sound … seems not a necessity.

Well, it depends. If you want proper thunderous bass, then you need large drivers to push large volumes of air. Simple physics. Not quite as simple as that; a ‘long excursion’ woofer of smaller diameter can produce more bass than a larger diameter shorter excursion one can, but you can also have issues with distortion, which is why most top end speaker manufacturers go for larger diameter cones on their speakers. But ‘good sound’ is all about the quality of the speaker units themselves, and the design of the cabinets. I use a pair of Focal Aria speakers, which I’ve found the ‘sweet spot’ between sound quality and price, for my own personal needs. Probably amongst the best ‘modest’ sized home speakers. If I had a larger space, I’d be going for physically larger speakers. I heard a pair of Klipsch LaScala speakers recently, and they are absolutely superb, but huuuuge. 1m x 60 x 65cm, and 80 kilos! Most wireless speakers are constructed using cheap components, with a lot of marketing. Stuffing all those electronics into a small package and getting it to sound good, is very difficult. Again, my preference is for Apple Homepods over any Sonos products, simply because they use a better design.

Sounds to me that what you really need, is a small streamer that will connect to your existing amp and speakers. You’ll need something with analogue output, unless you want to replace your amp with a streaming amplifier. For voice control, you’ll have to look a b it further. I’m not bothered with such, but hopefully someone else can advise on that score.

we dont. jeans on a older gent are so so wrong.

corduroy or moleskin is the way to go.

🤣 Ok Grandad!

Didn’t we have a ‘what jeans’ thread a week ago or something? Anyway; Uniqlo for a wide variety of styles and materials, plus free alterations ftw! Perhaps Levis for a little bit more quality. Most of the ‘designer’ brands are cheap stuff made in China anyway. Those Hiut look interesting; I might have to try some.

Edit: How much?? Perhaps not…

Any Verstappen fans want to justify that behaviour?

Lol! I’m just loving how Max is living rent-free in so many people’s salty heads. 🤣

Seems like Vettel /Webber all over again.

Webber was a gobby number two driver. I remember the infamous ‘Multi 21, Seb’ incident. Webber whinging as usual, and Seb saying nothing, but probably thinking ‘shut up whinging Mark, its unprofessional and you’re embarrassing yourself’. Seb left his talking to the track, where he comprehensively beat Webber in every single full season they were both at RB. Drivers are there to race; it’s really NOT a team sport. Hamilton has punted enough team-mates off the track ffs.

It’s interesting also, how so many on here are whinging and moaning about Max, yet ignoring the REAL story of the weekend, which is George Russell claiming his first win. Superb. Cool calm and collected, until just after the finish line. He looks the real deal, for sure. I think next season could be a corker, if RB, Ferrari and Merc can all be properly competitive. A 3 way battle between Max, LeClerc and George would be superb. And maybe Lewis will have to accept being Number Two from now on.

I’m fussy about sound quality, and the only ‘smallish’ wifi speaker I consider ok for home use is the Apple Homepod. No longer available new, but plenty of s/h ones on Ebay etc. I’ve listened to most Sonos products, and wouldn’t bother at all as they’re quite inferior yet expensive. To get better sound than the Homepod, you need to spend a lot more money ime, like north of £600 or so. And for that money I’d rather use a ‘proper’ hifi amp + speakers set up. There are a few very good wifi speakers capable of decent sound, from B+O, Naim, things like the aforementioned Syng, but they’re all very expensive. I have yet to hear an Amazon/Google speaker that sounds ok in a medium to large sized room. The larger Audiopro speakers are good, but I’ve found the smaller ones to be somewhat lacking really. If you want big sound, you need a bigger speaker really, it’s simple physics.

And, I’ve an old set of Mission speakers which sound great – could I bluetooth them?

You can definitely add some wifi connectivity to them, via a streaming amp, say, or a separate streaming device plugged into an amp. I use a Bluesound Node into a separate amp and speaker set up, but there are many devices that can be used for such purposes. Will definitely offer better sound than most smaller wireless speakers.

Regardless, I’m merely stating what I read

Don’t believe everything you read…

Actually, it is possible I might have been a ‘member’ of this, or a very similar forum, many years ago. Like, 10 or more. I think I wanted to ask some questions about a broken Rockshox Sid fork. I don’t believe I was banned. I probably got bored and wandered off, as I had a far narrower attention span back then. I couldn’t even tell you what username I had. I’ve been a member of so many forae I’ve lost count. Woodworking, Photography, design, art, all sorts. Even a local Labour Party one prior to the last election! 🤣 I think that dissolved quite quickly though. But hey; keep imagining whatever you want, if it gives you pleasure. Or you could, you know, get a life. Just a suggestion.

I didn’t know Streeting was gay until this thread

Neither did I, until I read that FT article I linked to.

t’s completely unworkable, of course. Someone would have to compile the list fairly for a start. But it’d mean that everyone got a vote even if they were a complete roaster, and ‘the people’ get what they actually want rather than what they think they want.

The problem is; do people actually know what they want? I’m not so sure. Beyond seflish interests, I doubt the vast majority actually care much. The dilemma will always be; give people what they want, or what’s good for them?

Don’t help spread nonsense around the internet.

No; let’s just concentrate on what PetShopBoy said, and we can forget the other stuff. Let’s concentrate on facts, then.

You seem to be a supporter. Do you not think his comments deserve total condemnation, and further action by the Labour leader? Streeting is, after all, shadow health secretary, and dementia care would fall under his remit. If a 39 year old man makes such a hateful, offensive statement, do you think he should be allowed to continue in such a role? What about those constituents of his, who suffer/live with dementia etc every single day? Do you not think they deserve better? Should our representatives in parliament not be held to the highest standards?

Ransos; Im glad I’ve brought meaning to your day. Enjoy the rest of it.

You’ll be old, one day…

Bearing in mind the level of intense insults directed at politicians on STW I’m lovin the bizarre reaction that Bill’s causal ‘pet shop boy’ remark has managed to achieve

Far more outrage about that, then the hateful and incredibly offensive slur made towards a member of parliament, in the HoC no less, that Kelvin dismissed merely as a ‘dick move’…

“I found this screenshot on a messageboard” – great.

So what? True or not, Labour love a good smear, don’t they?

Here you go Kelvin:

.@wesstreeting pic.twitter.com/42mdzpBJKA

— Damian from Brighton (@damian_from) November 9, 2022

Yeah, somebody else suggested that. I read it as shorthand for ‘I don’t like your views so I want you booted off this forum’. Pathetic. Get a life.

Streeting’s paternal grandfather served in the second world war in the Royal Navy and later in the merchant navy before becoming a civil engineer. “He was the grandad I was closest to. He was a traditional working-class Tory.” The young Streeting spent every weekend with his grandfather, who “instilled in me an absolute love of learning”.

No need to ‘smear’ when his own words reveal his true sympathies.

He has to prove his own statements are correct though.

I read Wes Streeting kicked a dog in the face…

So you can’t then? Ok.

Can you confirm it’s made up?

Sounds like the kind of thing Streeting would do tbh. After all, he thinks it’s ok to physically abuse children.

Now, what other made up nonsense can we smear Streeting with?

Erm, he actually said Corbyn is senile. It’s recorded. It’s not made up. You can ignore facts to suit your own narrative, but then you’re just ignorant of facts.

Streeting should be sacked for such comments. End of.

I see dozens of familesi daily claiming poverty. Every single one of them has a fancy phone and an arm full of tats. Thats up to you and no reflection on you as a person but if you can afford that you are not poverty stricken.

Oh dear. Kicked off the Daily Mail forums, were you?

Very angry. Why?

People who don’t pay on time should just be shot to help with the overpopulation problem

Reasonable.

You really don’t want to know what Sturgeon will be doing then…

depending on your definition of middle aged, anyone ages 18 to late twenties needs to carry an ID around if they want to purchase an alcoholic drink or even enter an establishment that serves them, and its been that way for at least 10-15 years, so that probably covers everyone up to 40 or so.

And important distinction to know, is that there is no legal requirement to carry any ID to buy alcohol though; it is the legal responsibility of the retailer to not sell alcohol to those under age. The Licensing Act 2003 requires retailers/venues to be able to verify the age of any person who the ‘responsible person’ thinks may be under the age of 18, so obvs some sort of ‘verified’ photo ID is a good idea if you don’t want to get turned away. But believe me; I see loads of underage looking kids (especially girls) buying alcohol in all sorts of places, so enforcement is clearly patchy.