Least of your worries that

They are watching you right now through your camera

Ps they can turn it on in your sleep…it’s like a countrywide giant baby monitor

maybe the set of this years strictly?

or is that the Edinburgh defence?

nah i just figured we hadn’t had a manufacturers are ripping us off thread on here for a while

I f**kin’ wish!

i think i need to work on my sarcasm

sounds cobblers to me, maybe a few items at 80%, I can believe there’s a lot on innertubes and high end plastic frames but 80% on everything? Sauce?

How is it cobblers…the entire tinternet says its so bike shops make millions and their owners are on the Bentley waiting list

PS on a serious note those scott’s that cost 6k a pop then get reduced to 2999 in the sales must be doing something reet

Dont even get me started..

I did wonder how these well spoken, terribly trendy young shop assistants could hope to buy any of the stuff in the shop, assuming that they earn not much more than minimum wage.

in the bike industry you make approximately 80 percent markup on everything especially bikes

couple of hundred quid trade for a chinarello frogma

9800 quid markup

job done

I have a vac king it’s stainless and has the combined suction of 12000 elephants in reverse

It sucks up scrap metal small bolts the Swarf out of the lathe…anything that isn’t bolted down in the CNC it is basically aawesome

It could be useful in the home for pinning down escaping children and would laugh in the face of plaster

77quid iirc from b and q

Someone just stuck this on twitter

I point out to @TheABD that paying VED doesn’t give drivers more right to use the road than cyclists. Their reply: https://twitter.com/TheABD/status/374183027053559808 …

basically i don’t think you will ever change views on cyclists

shakes head

no

thank christ it sounded shit….the photos of the same boring guff reflected it was in fact shit

I live in penistone its awesome …theres tons of farm animals

Theres loads of houses and flats on the market here

Barnsleymitch did they not move kendray psych to pogmoor? or was that a rumour

Least of your worries

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-president-obamas-aug-31-statement-on-syria/2013/08/31/3019213c-125d-11e3-b4cb-fd7ce041d814_story_1.html

looks like team america is having its own party

Move to Wentworth 5 mins from rotherham

Buy ? Build your own

I’m sure there was a kiwi who built his own version from some off the shelf items, he published it on the web

The powers that be seemed to be slightly miffed

http://www.interestingprojects.com/cruisemissile/

is it really tiny?

Hoover? Is that a reference to their “buy a £80 vacuum and get £300 of flights free” wheeze a few years ago?

aye

i thought this was a hoover thread

where are these killer cyclists mowing down pedestrians in their hundreds?

I was kind of being tongue in cheek but im sure it happens

maybe insurance companies should be forced to pay out in the favour of the claimant then claim it back through the system if later the claimant was proved to be at fault?

couldn’t compete with the onliners and grey importers

nope closed down a good 3-4 months back for good

good old michael jackson is whats needed

Think about the generations,
and say we wanna make it a better place for our children and our children’s children, so that they know it’s a better world for them; And think if they can make it a better place…

There’s a place in your heart
And I know that it is love
And this place could be
Brighter than tomorrow.
And if you really try
You’ll find there’s no need to cry
In this place you’ll feel
There’s no hurt or sorrow.
There are ways to get there
If you care enough for the living
Make a little space, make a better place.

Chorus:
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me and the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough for the living
Make a better place for
You and for me.

If you want to know why
There’s a love that cannot lie
Love is strong
It only cares for joyful giving.
If we try we shall see
In this bliss we cannot feel
Fear or dread
We stop existing and start living
Then it feels that always
Love’s enough for us growing
Make a better world, make a better world.

[Chorus]

Bridge:
And the dream we would conceived in
Will reveal a joyful face
And the world we once believed in
Will shine again in grace
Then why do we keep strangling life
Wound this earth, crucify it’s soul
Though it’s plain to see, this world is heavenly
Be God’s glow.

We could fly so high
Let our spirits never die
In my heart I feel
You are all my brothers
Create a world with no fear
Together we’ll cry happy tears
See the nations turn
Their swords into plowshares
We could really get there
If you cared enough for the living
Make a little space to make a better place.

Chorus (2x)

There are people dying if you care enough for the living
Make a better place for you and for me.
There are people dying if you care enough for the living
Make a better place for you and for me.

You and for me / Make a better place
You and for me / Make a better place
You and for me / Make a better place
You and for me / Heal the world we live in
You and for me / Save it for our children
You and for me / Heal the world we live in
You and for me / Save it for our children
You and for me / Heal the world we live in
You and for me / Save it for our children
You and for me / Heal the world we live in
You and for me / Save it for our children

Read more: Micheal Jackson – Heal The World Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Easier to type and say.

No I mean when your nearby and they are talking about how they nearly got taken down by a stupid Ped or how the ped was nearly handlebar fodder ,seems theres a different grouping of animals different rules if a pedestrian gets in your way eh,

I’m all for it if it stops cyclists mowing down pedestrians then..ill take the risk of being sued in case i ever hit anyone driving

I’m almost certain that any Western intervention will not involve gassing civilians indiscriminately be inline with the geneva convention or not outlawed by the UN

Sure, it’s only going to hurt them financially in terms of their no claims bonus. But anything that moves towards making it socially unacceptable to mow down cyclists and pedestrians is a good thing

Are you stating here the legislation means that cyclists will be liable for running into pedestrians

I never figured out why cyclists use the term “ped” with destain like they are a lower group even

goon do you go on that britmodeller or that largescaleplanes website?

I believe the best way of doing this is by changing the attitudes of all road users.

Quite

Strict liability may help towards changing the attitudes of some drivers, but it sends the wrong message to cyclists and reinforces the idea that we are not equal on the roads.

Yup gives anyone on a push bike the right to say you hit me now your liable I’m going to sue your arse and have a 50 50 of the judge siding with me…….oh lordy what have i got to lose

I don’t think it’s that simple. Can you really stand by and watch children being gassed without wanting to do anything?

nope its **** abhorrent

theres a simple fix a WEEKS warning to get out of dodge ,women peacelovers and innocents

warmongers remain if you wish ,warmongers verging on cowards hide where you need to to be hunted down later

Innitiate blanket bombing of country

The Bible also says ‘an eye for an eye’ which is why it’s no longer the basis of our legal system.

Are you saying our legal system was based on a fictional work? never knew that, wonder what would happen if it had been based on 50 shades of grey?

Because this Country’s roads turn its users into utter bell-ends.
Donk mentioned earlier that cyclists wouldn’t deliberately put themselves in danger, yet I do see road users doing this all the time; putting themselves in more danger just to prove a point.

I dont think some cyclists new to it do see themselves in danger

I think and its only my opinion that a lot of the folks on here are seasoned in their use of the roads both as cyclists and drivers, as such they see the danger from both sides , however to some degree cycling profficiency has gone out the window its a case of bob in halford buy a helmet and away you go ,the helmet publicity of it will save your life has just made them **** invincible

you couldnt do that on a motorbike and have absolutely no road awareness whatsoever but buy a bike and anyone driving miss daisy can quietly meander along the road till they get hit by a large hardbody object

Of course this is tragic and TBH motorists should drive with consideration that the folk riding bimbling along on their new transportation method it might make sense to educate both parties not just blame one particular set of road users right off the bat

edit, motorbike comment above of course theres the 16-18 yo subset who thrash the bollocks off their 50cc bikes till they meet some kind of demise or take someone else out

Evidence?

theres the odd one or two that do it in cars iirc its what puts our premiums up every year this claim culture!!

in fact the new flash you out of a junction scam has just been cottoned onto by the insurers as opposed to the organised lets get someone to run into the back of me crew , which seems to have fallen out of favour

its not going to bring about road based peace and harmony but it should make atleast a few drivers think twice before doing stupid manoeuvres around vulnerable road users

A bit like pulling out of a t junction and taking out a motorcyclist? Is that the kind of stupid to which you refer? It happens

Hang on – you want me to accept being indicted for something I haven’t done? Cos I’m not. Slightly inconvenienced? I could be bankrupted ffs. And if you think this is going to actually stop people from being knocked off their bikes you are living in dreamland.

i can just see it now as the where theres a claim theres blame bottomfeeders are gonna be rich ,rich i tell you

just imagine once its assumed liability theres going to be a whole raft of morons riding into cars for a laugh

Are horseriders insured to ride their horses on roads?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/blanking-grommets ……go crazy a round one will fill an oval hole you can buy oval ones too

Could it be that designing a half decent gearbox bike is actually a bit difficult and might require some actual R&D costs when the far cheaper option is to change a dimension or two and proclaim this latest innovation the second coming?

no its because the four people that might just want one are insignificant (on top of them being shite) and riding round the city on a brompton with a reliable gear hub is a market share worth going for

ffs you think a company with a budget like honda threw the towel on because it was a bit hard?

Perhaps something along the lines of a CVT we saw in Daf cars of the 70’s and then shrunk into gearboxes in the 90’s would work. Build it into a unit around the BB.

That would be interesting but until it could be serviced with a hammer and a screw driver unlikely to be popular.

don’t be surprised when you see that appear in a bike very soon…

**** hell jamie thats impressive

matt bowns will build you anything you want round a gearbox bike

hes building one for his shop at the moment round a pinnion

you can buy carbon ladders for boats i think you can pull this off easily with aluminium

have you looked at aircraft ladders or boarding equipment, there might be some ideas there for you :wink: