yeh…. but could he fit a spare wheel in under 1 minute like Bo and Luke Duke ….?

take around 3 seconds on average

Actually had another mate who like a ball of string up his arse ….the amount of women who were curious was more than i would have ever imagined

Oh hold on a minute i read that as he already had the 3d flat pattern in a 3d cad package not that it needed converting, most 3d cad will do sheetmetal these days

either way

theres a company called allsops in huddersfield who have SolidWorks and also have radan to rip it

Pook Im not having a go !!

In my experience I/we never had a problem before

Now Greno got very popular, there were trails there already ,some very very good ones, , I’m not nocking the work (just because i don’t personally agree with it) ,but then more trails got built and more folks started arriving, then it all got very political , folks go on about sustainability and the face of the peaks and the countryside change quite naturally wether we accelerate it or not

My only point is there was no problem before we just went and rode up there

I now just ride the langsett end and cut gate end of the landowners estate ,

Bit unfairly harsh there composite pro. I think it’s fair to say that by having groups such as RS doing some level of campaigning, or at the very least opening dialogue with the authorities, the chances of some of the communal pot of cash being spent in our favour goes up whereas before it was at zero – and that can’t in any way be a bad thing can it?

Maybe so in some folks eyes it might be harsh ….its one of those be burned by the majority for your opinion the supporters of said groups

i think its very naive to publicly say we have an input with anything council related , being a cynical bastard i think its more of a box ticking excercise on their part “have we listened to everyone” yep ok then …

surely DCC listened when they tarmac , and i think there was a rant on this very forum regards it
and sanitize everything to the point where there are folks on forums complaining about trails being sanitized….mountain biking was you a bike and the terrain presented ,have fun

Sorry but in 20 years of riding wharncliffe and the peaks all i have seen is issue after issue arise the more interaction that goes on with councils and groups

My apologies for maybe my tone as I’m not a great putter of my thoughts into writing genius but thats the way i see it and if they did say ooh you cant do that sonny im more than happy to say ….er see these two fingers

Am I being naive?

if your doing it in Thailand theres no “Am I” discussion to be had

just look on it more like a safari for people who cant afford to go to africa to see hippos and elephants and stuff

Di i mention i knew a very very clever man quite high up in a motorsport organization who actually had a spreadsheet costing a relationship lifecycle over 25 years compared to high class call girls

I bet you cant guess which was cheaper and had far less issues

yes

but it will cost the same wether you get one or 60 made if you get my drift

Ok worsecase scenario. I’m banned from riding footpaths. I still do it.

IF we are banned. Whats the worse that they can do? **** all. Combative but sorry its conjecture to me. The council are not nasty folk. I’ve witnessed 4×4’s on Roych. I was gobsmacked at how two vehicles ripped it up and a circa 1ton rock was cracked infront of our eyes.

i have to agree

secondly

Just to clear up a few things. We actually work closley with the CTC and are insured through them too. There are some areas that their orgainisation can work well in and other which are more limited. The same applies to us.

The best way that any mountain bike groups/advocates/organisations and just riders can work is together. Bitching and moaning amongst and about ourseleves is a futile exercise

Shared use tracks are exactly that and a land manager has to be able to meet everyones needs. They have to do the work, but how they do it can sometimes be contentious.
In Sheffield we hopefully have tuned a corner and are now consulted on all work to be done. We input on it and are considered in the design proccess. In Derbyshire, little if anyone is consulted. Which is the problem. They are also delivering a lot of the Peak Parks work, as they can afford to do it.

We are doing our best to engage better with DCC as well as groups such as Peak Horse Power. We are also working on a specific strategy for what is mentioned in the original post. We will post up on the website when we have info.

While our name is Ride Sheffield we will do our best to help with Peak based issues, until a more peak based group get set up

Thanks
RS

And i have said this before who said we need representing and who elected half the groups out there to do it for us

so persoanally i think its twaddle wether you gobble up the small breadcrumbs the councils decide to appease you with and claim it as some form of victory or not,

WONT STOP ME RIDING

Then, when you first go to meet her and this 17st mamma walks in, you can run for the hills without an ounce of guilt

have you actually tried getting on benefits…..its nigh on impossible
those people have mad skillz

i do it in the workshop when its cold

And, right, this is the best thing.. she doesn’t even mention:
-going out
-nights in with a dvd

the first one understandable the second maybe they dont allow dvds in prison anymore

[conspiracy mode] …or did it? [/conspiracy mode]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Shannon_Matthews

Leaving young kids in holiday apartments, asleep, is what millions of holidaymakers have done for years.

A bit like leaving your belongings whilst the night security guy rings his mates to bob round and do the appartment over, yes it does happen

I am pretty sure they did think their kids would be safe.

but didn’t think to take them along to the tapas bar?

Dammit. I had high hopes for this thread after mis-reading the title…

why would jogging give you such high hopes for a thread

And What if he can’t read English of Klingon?

this had so much potential

It must have a 4 thou.

wtf …… metric

In my experience women tend to be massive

[quoteTruth be told Santa Cruz frames are the nuts and everybody who knows bikes knows it. I am a fanboi having had 5 of them over the years. All of them were excellent, trustworthy bikes. The new ones look even better than the last lot which is saying something. They can spout as much marketing BS as they like, they make great bikes.[/quote]

God you could actually feel the excitement…awesome post if only folks could complain as effectively as that

Should a frame from Taiwan cost less then and if so why? UK or USA manufactured frames aren’t better after all.

i think you will find costs are rising worldwide

as for wether something is better or not that can only be pulled out of your ass or mine as an opinion

It is bollocks but it is sucked up by plenty of fanboys just like the other bollocks.

if an orange 5 failed round the pivot there would be a public witchunt on here however walk on water Santa cruz can do no wrong…awaits startling “its how they are dealing with warranty” fanbois to show

dont bother wasting your money on the park crap

http://www.pklie.de/

I predict that by the time he is 15 he will have lost the interest and be a smoking, fast food loving, xbox mong.

or a dad

OK then, do you actually believe that the tooling of a carbon frame distributed across every one sold is a quid?

there is often two sets of tooling for each frame size in the top wack frames also so that should be 2 quid

But if the bearings on the crappy pedals that most bikes come with lasted for 6 months I would be both amazed and delighted .

IM not dissagreeing on that at all iirc when I ran a shop pedals were pretty much swapped to avoid customers coming back with raging anger issues

If it was in my car which does 6k/yr I’d be concerned, but definitely not “fuming”. I don’t do fuming, or angry, or ranty internet posts or anything like that. Total waste of emotion. People need to get a grip of their emotions a bit more.

But that’s an asides – my car does about 6k/yr. My mate has the same car and does about 45k/yr as he is a field sales rep. Same product, same timeframe, different outcomes due to different conditions and usage. Simply incomparable.

did his bearing fail at 45k?

A bearing that wears out in 6 months is absolutely reasonable

No its not reasonable at all, if the wheel bearing in your car went in six months you would be fuming

and before you say not comparing apples ,yes i am a bearing which runs in completely shitty conditions year after year, the only difference being the actual load capacity and the penny pinching which you can get away with to some dgree with a bigger capacity bearing ,and there in lies the problem a lot of these so called designers of said bikes have **** all clue about actually speccing a bearing for its purpose

Im guessing when the owner retires/sells up the brand will sadly close. Harsh?

Maybe the owner has sold up already? DH bikes might be too niche

I’m genuinely impressed that this thread has devolved into two separate rows, both of which are quite unpleasant.

Can’t the wheel tension arguers meet up face-to-face for some kind of maths “burn” to settle things?

ive said this quite a bit recently ,it wouldnt matter if you designed the product theres always someone who will know more than you about your own product

Also whilst it’s not normally the done thing to claim to be an engineer

Armchairs at the ready

the answer is simpler but no where near as profitable

low cc lightweight foam rubber cars

Northwind I thought that to start with, but then I re-read his post and gave him the benefit of the doubt that he meant ‘quid’ as in ‘cash’

i just read it as out and out sarcasm

Except the Orange hardtails, which last time I heard were all made in Taiwan.

dont they just class the hardtails as cash sales boosting special edition or rerelease our legacy models to make a few quid,

the quality of some of them it might actually be to decontaminate said penis after a classless night out

Only Pashly remain as an entire design and manufacture brand in the UK. I would be happy to be corrected.

Orange

Empire

It was more about supporting British company

What a bizzare concept

Your going to base a purchasing decision based on where a product is made?

or if WE’D been nasty types who could’ve dragged him out of the truck & kicked his lips off

you dont need to be a nasty type ..no witnesses an opportunity if ever there was

True, but it’s harder to look cool eating a chocolate brownie.

PMSL at mental image of hoodies on park bench with cakes in the shape of peppa pig

people build planes in sheds….not models

Seems like a shit or bust moment, you’ll either both laugh about it or you may need that new account on match.comBENAUGHTY.COM