Ok then a different angle- fight the taliban/Al Queda in Afganistan, or pull out then see them overrun Pakistan, and have to go in to India/Bangladesh to do the same job only on over a much larger landmass- and thats hopeing they havent blown us up with Pakistans nuclear weapons.
Yes its shit, yes I shed a tear when our dead come home, but what else are we going to do? Withdraw and hope Al Queda think the West are a decent set of blokes after all and really there isnt any reason for a holy war, and maybe we should just have a garden party?