Thing about Fife is everthing is the wrong way round to the rest of us east coast folks! :lol: :-)

Here in East Lothian we look north to the coast and highlands, east to the sunrise, and west to the sunset.
It felt real weird over there when i was at Elmwood Collage at Cuper. all back to front :D
Do like your “Paps of Fife” great for photos :-)

All you need is The Carver 5mm Disc spacer, comes with longer rotor bolts… :roll:

Not rocket science :wink:

Sure Tim at Sideways have em, i got one for my Jones fork that i opened out from 9mm to 10mm to take Fatso hubs :-)

Fat bike friggin freaks will never catch on – drug nduced faggot pram racing is the future :mrgreen:

4 years ago i got slagged to death on here for having a fatbike! – interesting replys :wink: :D

Can only think of a Moots snow bike on the coast,

But really would just like to ride my own 3 fat bikes and 29+ more… :-)

Got a Pugsley build no3 here in bits that weighs under 30 lbs , nothing fancy in frame materials is needed, just the right parts :wink:

Sounds like a Krampus would be better. 29+ is Faster, lighter, and so more fun on flat trails then any 4″ fatbike.
No point hauling the extra girth if your not needing the float for peat moors, grip on shale or flint,sand, or just to pose :wink:

Think all sizes in stock too this now :-)

Square Taper Phil Wood BBs and Middleburn RS7s are a great set up.

Middleburn stand by their claim that no one has bent a pair of RS7s, including trials riders :wink:.

Phil Wood square taper BBs don`t need any quotes as everyone knows of their preformace :-)

Surly Nates 4″ all year round, dunn :lol:o what the fuss is all about :-)

Fatbikes next? :D

853 inline please :wink:

Got the money sitting but decided to stick with another new Pugsley black frame- on the way from the USofA, as the 29+ wheels fitting a fat bike was the deciding factor, already owning a set.

But it`s good the Puffin is coming from the UK :-)

Folk can say all the marketing, with the geometry stuff but a Pugs works fine on trails with the 4″ set up, and the Krampus 29+ wheels,

I want one steel bike that takes both wheel sets for weekends/ summer hols away in the car – 2 bikes in one for the best of both worlds,ideal for fun in the Highlands – or Scottish Borders for that matter,

Maybe the Puffin will be a fast bike on trails

Maybe any 29+ bike is a fast bike on trails,

The geometry of the Pugs with both wheel sets (4″ and 29+) works fine on err trails :-), fast enough for me anyways, but seriously,

The Puffin still looks to be the nicest option for an inline steel fat bike, and it is British :wink:

Said it already, best of luck with this… :-)

Oh a Reynolds 853 inline fatbike please (that takes 29+ also) and i`m in :mrgreen:

Here is the old Porsche :-)

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No film speeded up Sanny, your just honking on!. The folding Nates on my Pug are ace,

That old Porsche was in the garage for it`s MOT next door to my Work. Mechanic pointed out it is all metal still, no fibreglass :-)

How about this then :-), 29+ coming too Travers Bikes[/url]

Once prepped and built you dont have suspension service costs. Apart from that it is the usual service procedures of any bikes, mainly chain cleaning and lubing.

You do have to use good toothpaste – i recommend Sensodyne, as you will be smiling a lot when riding one :mrgreen:

Oh no E is Surly,

Phil Wood 100mm Square taper too!,
Available via Tim at sideways,not sure on price now, had mine 5 years and only 3rd set of SKF bearings and its dipped in the sea quite often :-)

Middleburns RS7s with 4 arm spider are up to £145 ish now on eBay, but i bought a used set that had been used for trials so are scored on one side (which i will file then polish out) for £30 :-)

If starting from scratch again i would go for the Puffin kickstarter kit,

Then buy the On One Fatty kit at £500, Then sell the frame set for £300 (even drop to £250) and still in on the wheel/tyre set for £250.

Howitzer BB is £55 on eBay, add some secondhand Howitzer cranks (i paid £20 with 3 new Shimano chainrings at the weekend.

Strip an old hardtail for the running gear and you have a nice fatbike for what? around £750 :-)

I go for a different ideal and use Five Ten Canyoneer boots, this is for the coast fat biking, but also used the set for real wet days on trails.

Thin wool socks inside Seal Skins, seem to keep feet warm even if the seal Skins leak. no probs with pedal grip from the Canyoneer leech like grip!

Only down side is the twin velcro tensioner straps on the boot make friends slag you off for wearing special needs shoes :lol:

Also used them with British Army liners (£15 on eBay) for dry feet all day, used these liners for metal detecting in streams and they are ace :-)

10 year old Fiesta :-), value of about two new fatbike tyres :lol:

:-)

Monkey…
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And KramPug 29+
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Ressurect The North Berwick Witch Trials :evil:

Dragged over the East beach barnacle rocks at low tide behind the local posse, then dunked in the harbour and fed to lobsters :twisted:

:lol:

First ride at a trail centre in 2 years on Saturday and was good fun. Even if not on the usual choice of bike :wink:
I like the social riding thing at them, then the solo stuff with your own thoughts on local trails and in the hills :-)

Some waffle here i tried to explain

http://coastkid.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/surly-krampug-at-glentress.html

I class 29+ as a fatbike :-), deft not a regular MTB 26 or 29″, as you can run them at half the pressure of regular 29×2.35 tyres,

Low pressure, = more float, fits the profile of a fatbike :wink:

Oh read the title wrong, thought it said FUN bikes… bought into that about 6 years ago :-)

I did GT yest on my 29+ KramPug, same speed as a 6″ full susser, so there not that slow. more fun on blue routes but for a rigid bike?, pretty impressive. I like the negative haterz and trolls on here, even more fun to humiliate them when you meet them lol:.

Fatbikes are not mountain bikes, never tried to be. They offer other types of riding. But if you want to ride xc and trail centres why not? :-)

Here is some waffle on Trail Centre stuff and the KramPug; Surly KramPug at Glentress

I don`t find Nates that draggy Stu or find a lck of grip, running them (folding ones) on 65mm Marges :-)

I rode Saltys Moonie with Bud and Lous and noticed the increased drag compared to my BFL shod Moonie :-)

As rOcKeTdOg posts, Jandd frame bag, fits everything for under £45, got 3 of these and ace;

Don`t say you cannot afford £45!

Jandd frame bag

Coast on one of the fatbikes, early solo, no idea on miles/stats crap, but out around 4 hours :-)

deserter – Member
Out of curiosity what makes a snow bike useless at trail riding?

The snow bike designs have longer chainstays, and wider than 80mm rims and 5″ tyres make this a more stable set up ideal for sand and snow riding, but too floaty to grip on UK mud, and too draggy on hard pack and tarmac when fitted with the 5″ Surly Bud and Lou chunky tyres on UK trails. You may get amazing grip with the bigger footprint but a hell of a drag. I stay away from road and trails with my Moonlander, it is an amazing sand sled/shingle and rock beast though.

4″ tyre Pugsleys and On Ones have nice short chainstays, the On One has a slacker head angle – the Pugsley has more forgiving steel, take your pick (On One wins on price, Pug if your a steel fan).
4″ fat bikes are a lot more versatile, stick some Nates on and go ride anywhere, what most fatbike owners around here in East Lothian are doing and using them as their MTB`s :-)

Its a snow bike for snow races, so apart from the nice wide rims ideal for beach riding as they will be real light, the rest will be pretty useless for trail riding – though ok for beach riding, but beach riding is i hear on STW all flat and boring according to some :wink:

29+ is the fat future for UK trail riding, you wait and see :wink: :mrgreen:

Yep, they do ride lighter than they actually are, dunno how but they do :-)

RH rims and Knards are still an expensive option this now for a second 29+ wheelset, no doubt more makes will be available,
Pity they do not fit the OO Fatty as you could have one with the Surly rim/tyre set for the price of a stock Pug. Still loving my 29+ set for trails and road as faster for less effort. But 4″ tyres are still more grin factor as such a giggle, rode my Nates shod Pug to work then did 9 miles round trip after work to North Berwick just for the hell of it, mostly on the quiet country roads here with a few stubble fields, why?, cause i just love riding the thing :-) and thats what cycling for me is all about, riding where you want, when you want and having fun :-)

Pugsley 29+ splinter group here :mrgreen:

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But i am going to add a Fatty build kit to my Surly fleet of 4 to have another ride aspect on the fatside :-)

Yorlin they do :mrgreen: tried it out, no need for a packraft :D

As Mantastic says Nates make em go anywhere,
let the haterz be haterz i say, who would wanna go aride with folk like that anyway?

I don`t fit the ideal owner then as im 42 and ride daily to work/shops/pub and ride easily over 100 miles offroad on fatbikes weekly. usually catching and waiting on MTBs on group rides and often pass road bikes on my Pugsley with its 29+ wheelset :lol:

Pinewood sums up the typical STW cynical type on here who has not ridden one properly away from where a regular MTB size tyre would struggle. If you dont like tham then piss off onto another thread and troll on there and dont piss on the OTs post :wink:

lee170 get in touch with someone local who has one and go for a ride on one :-) you will find an owner local to you on the UK Fatbike Forum

Adian,

I’ve also ridden it on beaches a bit, which is novel,
but you can’t get away from the fact that a beach is a big wide flat area so not that much fun for its own sake.

Come up to East Lothians coast if you think it is all flat and boring, How hard a work out would you like :D

Hopefully the mainstream MTB manufacturers who are jumping on something different to cash in on along with the press will move on and leave us who enjoy them to keep on rolling.

Each to their own, but STW is classic for small minded comments when they have not really tried out something.
Put you mouth where your riding skills are, i have two spare Pugsleys, come up and try them, i live 25 minutes by train from Edinburgh to North Berwick, you will have your eyes opened by what and where these bikes can be ridden, it is not a MTB and not a replacement for an MTB, but opens a new riding area and real fun. Oh you will need to buy the ice cream after though… :-)

Had Nano`s and they are good, but when the bearings go and you relised they are shot the damage is done to the axles/ pedal bodys…

So i now buy plastic pedals that use the same axle for half the price; platform Slim Jim flats om eBay at £20 delivered free P&P :wink: when they are shot, bin and replace…

This (Officially filmed yesterday but did the same this evening) :-)

dickydownes – Member
The one on ebay is only a 16″ frame. Not sure it’d be big enough – 5′.10″, 32″ inside leg?

Be best with a medium then, i`m an inch taller on mediums, best fitting bike i have had,

My mates built a large On One for £700, second hand kit from eBay and mates :-)

Doubters over a beach bike? never! :lol:

Ellie is real nice, turned up at my big bros wedding in his garden a few years back. Being best man and greeting guests with the tray of tipplers (which i had consumed most of) i chatted away and waffled on about fatbikes etc… and told her 5″ of rubber is all you need for big grins..
her partner was not that impressed :oops: :mrgreen:

More beachriding on BBC this winter maybe :wink:

I go to my big bro`s house!, he lives in Kings Park :mrgreen:

Always has to be a haterz – and i hated mine, sorry and to be fair it is designed to be loaded up with a lot of kit while i used mine unladen mostly.

I rode mine unloaded and it was easily the most over rated bike i have bought – and the last bought on internet reports of a bike.
I found it heavy – too heavy compared to a road bike for err, road speed :-)
And then far to ridged for offroad, it was awfull compared to the Karate Monkey frameset i sold to build it (the build is back on a KM and loving it) i was just sore after every ride, shaken to bits off road – i blame the straight fork.
When i sold the frameset and blogged about it a load of guys posted up the same views about the same opinion of it as i had – on said Fargo? go far away from me! which made me giggle a bit.
Sold it at a big loss too, was no interest in it for ages yet it was minted, went in private sale for under half price. No way was it worth £500 for the frameset. Very dissapointed in the end, be the last Salsa i buy.

Some Fargo owning friends (Steve M and others) mentioned the bars – i used Salsa Bell Laps, but some of those guys that also disliked it said they had tried all types including Woodchippers of and still found it an unforgiving brute.

So least i know i am not alone in not getting on with one – yet some friends swear by them.

Horses for Course :-)

Doing a bit of Rough Stuff on my Big Brothers old 1987 Peugeot Triathlon which i stuffed some 32mm cx tyres on, nice and bendy frameset and fly`s on the road, a giggle to ride and i have relised why – i have no high expectations of this old road bike but i did for the Fargo. and as a free hand me down with a pair of £24 tyres i love it way more than the Fargo :-)

Here is the blog post comments i had on other ex Fargo owners, but don`t be put off if you have your heart set on one
http://coastkid.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/surly-karate-monkey-29er-return-of.html#comment-form

Your not missing that much to be honest, just a small group of posters on every thread…
If you like beach riding then you will find a couple of haterz, if you hate that then fine :-)

I find it a weird forum to be called “The Hub of UK fatbiking” when most folk i know with fatbikes are not registered, They mean well but a couple of regular cynical posters have put off a lot of fat bike owners friends from bothering,

But hey there are some good folk (and friends of mine) on there, so feel free to contribute :-)

Oh and any stubble field this now!, they romp over them easy :-)

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Was good on the North Yorkshire Moors when we were there, any Moors are great on fatbikes, Peat tends to not stick to the tyres unlike some mud,
Minimum impact on the ground too with the tyre spread :wink:

Were doing more riding this Autumn in our local Lammermuir hills once the Grouse shooting season finishes :-)

Cheviots is brilliant, miles and miles of isolation, still got a few plane wrecks to go find up there

We were out on Thursdsay evening, a 29+, jump bike, 6″ full suss, 4″ full suss, a cross bike and a fatbike, fatbikes werent holding anyone up :-)

Winton Massiff Lap record for Butterdean Woods here on a 29+ KramPug :wink:

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