Good…

We can get on with riding them where MTB`s struggle…

Glad i mostly ride fatbikes which leave less of a footprint on soft sand here on the coast and sandy trails than a human footprint. Hope he can handle that.. 8O

Built a 456 a few years ago. Admitidly found it a bit heavy and dead with not much flex for a steel frame but the geometery was good and it was real cheap so for value it was good :-)

Jamie

..also, is that a custom bracket your rear, Lunar?, is on?

Its just a bracket from an old rear reflector. Used to squeeze the light in between the tool bag and mudguard. The Light is a Raleigh-prob made in same factory! :-)

Nice bikes on this thread. currantly monstercrossing my Karate Monkey now too as enjoy the drop bar thing on easy green lanes and fire roads along with the commutte into the wind and the odd hill around here!

@Coastkid

What size frame is that CdF. Just wondering if I might run out of room with one of those Jandd bags on a 52cm Croix De Fer.

My CDF is a 56cm, did some bag mwasurements for you;
Lenght along top of bag top under the TT is 38cm.
Gap from rear of bag to seatpost under TT is 13cm.

we need a UK JanDD dealer!, they make some cool stuff, check out the dogs saddlebags :mrgreen:

Miketually;

Give me a buzz if you want when your passing through East Lothian on the North Sea Cycle route, happy to show you some of the John Muir Trail and hidden Gems like Seacliff beach and mini harbour under Tantallon Castle on your journey through our wee county :-)

Halo “Tundra” 80mm rims will be out soon, dual drilled for inline or 17mm offset and £60 per rim, thats a third the Price of Surly RDs
Its getting cheaper to go fat :-) Ison – Tundra Rims

I built a complete fatbike for under £500, lucky yeah to buy one of my old frames back granted and got stock wheels for a good price but all stuff was on classifieds and eBay :-)
Linky;
http://coastkid.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/can-you-build-cheap-fatbike-here-is-sub.html

With over 30 fatbikes around North Berwick now-including a family with 5 bikes with 3 XS Pugsleys for the kids, no one ever looks at me anymore on my fatbikes :cry: just not niche enough now… :roll:

:mrgreen:

cloudnine – Member
Coastkid what’s that frame bag?

JabDD frame bag, around £40 posted from USA. I use it for my camera and munchies :-)

JanDD Frame Pack

2013 Genesis Cdf, £699 in the Bicycle Co-op Xmas sale, lovin it :-)

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22nd Jan; Genesis Cdf 40 miles roads and some Roughstuff 032[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

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11th Jan; Genesis Cdf Half Century-with a bit of Roughstuff 103[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

Hope Pro 2 rear,got 5 now and the oldest is 6 years and just had third bearing sets abnd been on 3 wheel builds and who knows how many miles

All types of bike on this local ride last summer :-)
Fatbike, 29+ KramPug(me), 29er hardtail, 26″ hardtail, 26″ full suss, CX bike, all good in their own way on this ride around some local xc trails,
The Fatbike/29+ were never lagging behind despite nearly twice the weight of the cross bike :-)
All these bikes are fun to ride though, esp with good mates :wink:

29+ KramPug still holds the fastest lap of the original loop around Butterdean Woods to mates Strava times :wink: :lol:
No suspension and 29+ :-)

And another film of fatties on regular xc stuff

Sandy trails here near the coast, guess i`m a lucky git!.
I used to reguarly drive an hour to ride trails or Trail centres, also took most of the day to ride 2-3 hours.
Changed my bikes for where i stay-from full suss to 29er rigid and fatbikes now. Is it as much fun?, well it`s a different fun,no driving needed and i get in more saddle time these days-and so also fitter.
I spend less on these bikes too so now have more bikes!.
I also commute more now on drop bar bikes (Genesis Cdf, old 80s Peugot Triathlon with CX tyres, and a drop bar 29er) and also ride these on old railway line walks and shooting tracks this now in winter so i still get in more saddle time :-)

If i did not have these doorstep riding options then i would probably just own a crossbike/tourer like my Cdf and do more road miles.

Thanks folks, 99 it looks like then :-)
Cow poo does indeed take a bit cleaning!,
Cynic Al – Aye she is! Dutch and 6ft, Long legs indeed :lol:

I have owned a few bikes over the years that were UK/Euro models of bikes that differed to the US range,
Like this John Deere Green Cannondale Killer V as described in the catologue- a rebadged Delta V which was an export model for Europe :-)

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uber v 006[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

I ride 3 fatbikes-29+, 4″, and 5″ tyre size, a new Genesis Cdf commuter, a fixie road bike, an 80`s steel road bike, a single speed Mtb, two 29ers, and half are clipped and in half flat pedals and i used to notice a differance as the OP mentioned but now swap bikes so often daily i hrdly notice. Some are faster, then slower in places than more regular machines :-)

Thanks folks :-)

Song is ” The shape is in a trance “, by Thurston Moore; https://myspace.com/treesoutside/music/songs

Tis for me :-)
But i ain`t normal :mrgreen:

A fatbike which is also 29+ capable is the way forward for UK xc trails if you like to ride a rigid bike, and if a fatbike for regular trails tickles your boat. Fat is fun-monster grip, get onto faster flowing singletrack and 29+ is faster :-)
29+ needs more than just the Knard tyre option though!

“fans of triple drive trains need not purchase a ticket for the 29+ train. The combination of big tires, wide rims and short chain stays combine to make a 3x setup virtually impossible without serious compromises.”

Err not exactly correct if your running the wheels in a compatable 29+ fatbike frame with a 100mm BB like the old Pugsley :-)

Don`t mean to diss this bike but the chainstay tyre clearance looks a tad narrow for UK slop :-)

As above by HH; Conti 26″ DH 2.5-2.5″

Go for the above if your rock riding-i get rubbing on tubes riding rocks which result in little rubber balls being formed as the tube rubs on the tyre at low pressures-real weird!.
In the past i blew out thin light weight tubes riding rocks on the coast. If your a light rider/riding trails etc then the light weight tubes will be fine :-)

21″ x 3″ front motorcycle Michelin Desert Tubes are in my big Moonlander!, the most indestructible tubes yet! :mrgreen:

Not brutal but xc easy is the Kyntyre Way,

http://coastkid.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/biking-kintyre-way.html

Maybe you have to adjust bike line up to suit the local terrain? :-)

East Lothian has miles of good draining loam soil/sandy singletrack trails that makes for year round rideable stuff, just need to know where to look :wink: and only 25 mins drive/train from Edinburgh.

Used to do rides from Longniddry and Drem Stations, and keep getting asked to do them again.
Riding fatbikes mostly on the coast these days but if enough interest, i get the time,and arse in gear to do them again i will post up on here :-)

Sort of stuff we ride :-)

Loads of singletrack…

Fatbikes are welcome big time too! :mrgreen:

dazzlingboy – Member
29+ – are Pugsley/Mukluk/Caribou etc 29+ compatible?

EDIT – I see Mukluks are.

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Pugsley deft is!, here is my Pumpkin KramPug :-)

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15th Jan; 2014 Bike line up 018[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

And now with 29er mud tyres this now for winter until the 29+ Dirt Wizards are available
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2nd Feb; 29er & 29+, Messing around in the Garage 019[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

Plenty of mud clearance! :mrgreen:
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2nd Feb; 29er & 29+, Messing around in the Garage 018[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

My Klunk

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Klunker 018[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

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Klunker 012[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

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Klunker 002[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

If you can get up to North Berwick in East Lothian (25 mins on the train from Edinburgh) in April there will be at least 60+ fat bikes at FORTH FAT on the weekend of April 5th – 7th, probably every model of fatbike made that is available to buy here in the UK there so you could come along to North Berwick late Saturday affy and have a go of a few :-

Link to FORTH FAT details…

Don`t get too conserned about the weight thing with them, if you do then just go 29+ for the speed. All new fatbikes now mostly have single wall drilled rims which make the biggest differance to riding feel to the weight. They are all good, but i am a bit biased to fatbikes :D

If i bought another i would be waiting for the 2nd generation of Genesis Caribou`s as it will also be 29+ compatable :-)

Ha ha! ace :-)

WOOF!-lets go! :mrgreen:

I you have not been before then deft ride Spooky Woods!
The Red is more fun on a hardtail i think :-)

Pie Run and Magic Mushroom are ace too!

Got the 29+ Surly wheels sitting, whens the kickstarter er kickstarting! :-)

You can buy an old Pugsley frame from £140 upwards and fit one. Don`t need anything special, long as it is 135mm.
MTBR Fatbike Forum is full of threads of Rohloff fatbikes. There was Wildfire fatbikes with them even before the Pugsley :-)

Will defo buy a Rohloff if they ever make them saltwater sealed and proven for a marine enviroment, as the Alfine IGH deft is not! :-)

Birdsong here too!, Robin and a Blackbird going for it!
Light at the end of the tunnel :-)

It was too cold for an ice cream after as is the usual after a day at the seaside :-)

Knards on Rabbit Holes fly on tarmac!, agree crap in mud!

front 29+ on a 29er rear would be fine, half fat makes no sense at all- I have a mates Jones SS with fat front sitting here, did nothing for me compared to 29+ each end-until it rained! :-) full fat on Nates now for slop trails!

I never say the big dip until it was too late Saggsey! :lol:

Mowgli is my girlfriends dog. 3 years old and last summer was running for 40KM endurance horse rides 8O so guess easy for him to keep ahead of a 40 something old git on a fatbike :-)

Filled in the survey

Cannot say too much, but being a Head Greenkeeper the word on the street-via Reps is there is talks in progress and plans for a MTB trail centre on the top side of the now closed Lothianburn Golf course :wink:
The lower 9 holes of the course are now being maintained by the neighbouring Swanston Golf Club. Prob with the plan to expand their training facilities.

How cool would some proper trail centre stuff near Edinburgh be? :-)
beat the awfull drive down to the Tweed Vally!

29+ is maybe a better option than 4″ fat for a singlespeed. I thought this set up with the lower pressures and more grip was way better than my 29er SS bike on natural xc trails. But while great i still went to gears on the 29+ bike after 6 months as makes it more versatile :-)

With a 4″ fatbike you may as well make the most of the bikes ground covering capabilities and massive grip away from where a regular MTB is so hard work it makes it no fun. fatbikes are loads of fun!

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KramPug NB Law 007[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

Soon we will have BAFB`s :wink:

Born Again Fatbikers :D

Karate Monkey-until you ride a 29+ :-) lack of choice on 29+ tyres though, just Knard 3″ this now which rules out winter slop! :-)

I was going to suggest the MG42… Hitlers Buzz saw…

But it is still not fast enough despite how slow they move…

EIN SWEI DIE! :twisted: :twisted: :mrgreen:

Someone mention sea coal? find quite a bit of that on the coast also, burns a treat on the open fire :-)

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28th Nov; Barnes Ness beach ride 077[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

Ok in an open fire though!, 9 years and counting :-)
Some stoves don`t recommend joiner wood etc too i was reading.
My other half burns dried horse poo on her log burner stove! :lol: More free heat! :-)

Loads of legal issues indeed with lifting from most woodlands.

Perfectly legal to lift wood off the beaches here washed into John Muir Bay in East Lothian from the river Tyne estuary (not the Geordie Tyne!) after heavy rain. The stuff is not too salty,and often good hardwood. I heat my house for free-just a bit cycling, sawing and splitting. Whats not good about free and legal heating :-)

I sometimes also trailer rubbish off the beach once done lifting logs; road cones, broken creels etc, do my bit to keep the coast clean :wink:

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Hauling beach firewood with the fat BOB trailer! 014[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

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Hauling beach firewood with the fat BOB trailer! 020[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

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Hauling beach firewood with the fat BOB trailer! 022[/url] by coastkid71[/url], on Flickr

Post up on the UK Fatbike forum as mentioned above,

Always blubber bike parts up for sale :-)