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I’d maybe drop the mechs into the smallest sprockets front and rear so the springs have the least tension in them.

What’s the difference between BB72 and BB92?

So I need one of these?

Link

Ooops, sorry.

The link was

Here

Can you still get decent 9 speed drivetrain kit?… Yes

8 Speed… not really.

I believe the same will be for 26″ wheels for at least 5 years.

What’s that in stumpy? Fabia?

Buy one that is over strung and under damped and you won’t go wrong. Any you buy will need tuning after removal (about £80).

Strings and hammers can wear but are usually good for a century or so.

Don’t situate it too close to a radiator or the constant change in temperature will cause it to go out of tune more quickly.

Only checked mine once on a tank of fuel and it seemed pretty spot on.

Never got it to read that high though, the 50mph limit from jct28 up to 34 is what caused it.

Civic 2.2 icdti

Needed it sorting ASAP due to a ride I’m on tomorrow.

Think that’s sneeze residue :oops:

That’s why your original post says v e r t i o x

Googled and facebook searched vertiox and found nothing. Any links?

Makes you question is this person doing the same with PS3’s Xbox’s etc… buying broken ones for pittence then pulling a switch scam.

It’s pretty clever… but also damn annoying.

I’d involve the police myself as you don’t know how much else of this has been reported.

I hope you’re quick. Looks ace but is so in your face that a slow rider will look a bit silly on it… but if you’re dropping everyone then you will be Mr awesome on that!

Could have developed a asthma?

Yes get it checked out.

Iknow what you mean with this.

I got to a point a while ago where they all needed some sort of maintanence of new parts and was moaning to the wife I can;t afford this hobby..

She pointed out quite sensibly that her bike was never an issue as we maintained it as it was her only choice… so if I only had one do it all bike then it would be better maintained and want for nothing and always have any parts changed that it needed.

Maintaining and running multiple bikes through a wet winter = expensive in my opinion and won’t be repeated.

I’m currently building my 4th edition to my collection though so probably do as I say… not as I do might be apt here.

Can add up to almost half a pound if it is done really thick. No more.

Is this light? I have no frame of reference, all mine are Thomson and one reverb on my other bikes.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ritchey-WCS-V2-Seatpost-MATT-BLACK-31-6-x-400mm-/280928229559?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item4168a098b7

Or Carbon

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Carbon-Fibre-Road-racing-MTB-Bike-Seatpost-400mm-31-6mm-/191078237521?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c7d268551

Cheers for the ideas so far folks. Keep them coming.

As for the ti railed saddle on offer, thanks but no thanks it’s not my cup of tea.

Worst bit is I got her into riding about 8 months ago. Few wet rides through the winter then last weekend was her first taste of trail dust… started really ripping! Then this weekend this happened, really hoping it doesn’t put her off the sport as it’s been a great way to spend time together and I felt like she had the potential to end up riding competitively.

Yeh we did. Didn’t even crack her helmet but thought better be safe than sorry. Been winding her up telling her she’s just got a glass jaw.

I’d say about £2k if it really is nearly out of the box new condition.

Fireblade (954 version)… why…. my CBR600 doesn’t have enough grunt anymore.

How have we got so many responses without anyone asking what it was you’ve bought?

My original question was has anyone done a scientific experiment and could you link to it… not can we re-visit the merit’s of fun vs marketing vs marginal gains again.

Thanks to those who have answered what I asked. The response about vs a mate who has two bikes is interesting and what sparked me to ask as I have a mate who I ride with regularly who has moved to a 29er and suddenly seems a fair bit fitter than before.

I’m tempted to set one of these tests up myself when I get time.

I may just do that in the summer using multiple lap times from different days for both sizes and correlate power meter readings to try and show effort levels were consistent etc.

Seems more like we should all be buying you a beer fella, not the other way around.

Good luck with it all.

Mymaths website is great. You have to pay for login’s though.

If you email the head of maths at the secondary school he will go to (tell them which primary he is at and will be applying to go to them) they will probably send you a login.

Awesome resource.

Anything else other than Shimano. I really like their new style brakes, so much so I have moved two of my bikes over to them… but flipping heck they are wooden!

The reason they have so little modulation is the hydraulic ratio they use to make the pads move so much, it means you get loads of clearance and no pad rubbing which is why I like them so much, great in wet muddy conditions as they clear so well….but the down side is the lack of modulation she is experiencing.

Having had various brakes over the years I still really rate Avid Juicy 7’s. Pre mass produced OEM manufacturing Avid era and just quality. Plenty of modulation and power and a lovely lever feel. Doubt you will find a set for sale these days though.

Got some Formula RX’s on one bike and they are pretty on/off sharp so would say steer clear of them too.

It will be fine. Dot 5.1 has the same use age properties as 3 and 4 but is more expensive and has a higher boiling temperature for more performance usages.

Nottinghamshire, just had another one a minute ago. It’s making my wife laugh her head off at my frustration with being unable to understand these people.

It’s a label that will stay with them through school and will mean that class teachers should know to push them right from the off when they meet them.

Beyond that there may be the occasional extra curricular activity they get invited to because they are on the G+T register.. for example I run extension maths sessions for primary schools in the county (they send around 6 of their brightest mathematicians from years 5 and 6 on the run up to SATs for some extra level 6 maths lessons) at our secondary school. English and Science dept’s run some of these days too.

Really depends on what the school choose to do extra for these pupils, but in the same way low ability pupils get extra support it will mean they get other opportunities to have their learning extended.

I had a set, used them every weekend for a few years and a few alp trips… still in the cupboard in perfectly useable condition. Don’t use them now as I don’t ride/race DH anymore so all my current bikes are fitted with spd pedals.

I’ve got a brand new in packet ultegra press fit one you can have for a tenner posted as I’m feeling generous.

I’ll check the size when I get home.

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paulbennett76@(deletethisbit)hotmail.com

I agree OP, a lot of marketing bollocks hence a post I made the other day…

Read an alternative reality story:

Once upon a time, Mountain bikes appeared. They started out with 7 gears. There were big gaps between ratios, and huge chunky chains akin to single speed chains. The evil bike manufactures grimaced as their customers winced and scowled and struggled to get up the shortest of climbs, and adjust to the shallowest of descents.

After some time, everyone got fed up with this and, to avoid a revolt in the kingdom, Shimano and Sram reacted by making 8 speed drive trains. All of the riders in the kingdom celebrated – they could not believe that they had been struggling along with only 7 gears for such a long time!

5 years later, the bike companies introduced 9 speed. “The chains are too thin!” people cried. Gear ratio gaps were improving, but people were scared; fat business men worried, “Won’t my thighs of steel break these delicate little thin chains and sprockets?”. Pretty soon however, everyone adjusted and loved the new options of the ‘just the right gear’ feel.

Very soon, 10 speed arrived… followed shortly by 11. By now, cassettes had grown to the size of huge dinner plates and chains had got so thin that people were snapping chains just wafting near them with a pressure washer!

The pinnacle of thin chains had reached its maximum.

Then, one day, some clever bod at SRAM added another chainring and a shifter on the other side of the handlebar…

…Astounding! Shimano’s engineers had to follow suit.

In order to make this work, they had gone back to 8 speed so they could be sure this new front mech wouldn’t snap the chain when shifting.

The technology was a revolution and again, everyone in the kingdom was amazed. The gear ratios were closer and had a wider overall span. People could spin up the steepest of slopes, yet still had a selection of drive gears whilst descending at speed. Cyclists everywhere rejoiced at this incredible feat of engineering.

Over time, this second chain ring became a system of three rings at the front and the engineers discovered that even 10 speed chains could cope with this. People were riding with 30 gears! An almost infinite span of usable gears that had tiny increments in between, allowing the rider to fine tune what their cadence was and gave them immense capabilities of riding up and down – wherever and however their hearts desired.

Mountain bikers were thrilled! At last they could now truly ride up and over and down the other side.

There was even a weight advantage. The lack of dinner-plate-sized cassettes meant there was less radial weight to spin up on the rear wheel, people accelerated like rockets and with less unsprung mass the rear suspension was even more active.

People were incredulous. “How did we ever live with our 11 speed drive systems? How Archaic!” They exclaimed.

With 30 gears, and so much flexibility, the cyclists in the kingdom loved their mountain bikes, and they all lived happily ever after…. or at least until…

The following year some of the companies got together and introduced a new 26″ smaller wheel size to improve acceleration and handling. “29 inch is over” screamed all the magazines. The forums were rioting with hardcore 29er riders worrying sick that this new wheel standard would make their bikes difficult to buy spares for, thus potentially rendering them obsolete in what was perceived as foreseeable in as little as three months

Postscript: Oh how marketing has made fools of us!

I was talking to my Grandad about these, he says he had one as a lad and they were quite popular back then… he got a photo out and showed me…

Will be well over a ton matey, more like 300 at a guess. Depends how chunky the ring is but a mans wedding ring in platinum will be a fair bit. As has been said, get a few quotes.

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I’m sure there are still plenty of ’90s technology bikes to be found going cheap if you are certain that improved bike design is purely marketing…..

Thank you for the suggestion, I actually own a really nice klein Attitude.. it’s not a patch on either of my modern bikes

…it’s only a post written in jest.

My personal opinion is that 2 x 10 is the best set up for the majority. I’m more poking fun at 1 x 11 than anything, and the wheel size thing is just to be topical with the abundance of threads on the subject.