@chilled76, Paul, can you summarise your starting point and what you achieved prior to your injury to elbow?

Im searching for inspiration for the new year…

Yeh no worries, started out at around 260 Watt ftp and 88kg.

Training and diet saw me peak at 79kg and ftp of 303

That’s a gain from 2.5 to 3.8w/kg and you couldn’t half tell! Took minutes not just seconds of some fairly short climbs. Then I broke my elbow… and got a bit fatter but not as fat as I started at. And my ftp is back at about 270 as I did very little at all for 10 weeks.

Good stuff Terry, that’s some commitment!

Can’t find them at that price, anynone got a link?

Well it’s been 3 weeks since that last post Terry and I’ve been averaging just 2 turbo sessions per week. I got ill AGAIN last week, having a 1 year old is crazy for viruses!

It’s hard coming back from injury, I’ve been doing a bit more weights and plyo stuff too just re-hab for the broken elbow. Weight is pretty stagnant, but the turbo sessions are seeing me “feel” fitter. I think next ftp text will be Jan 1st (I’m not drinking at new year)

I’d like to be posting more progress, but in all honesty I’d be lying. The aspiration is still there but with a more realistic goal of a solid 4w/kg by the Fred Whitton next year in May. That’s doable at 75kg and 300 Watts.

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About 10 I think.

33 Before I made my own (didn’t use shop bought tahini (sp) paste either, toasted some sesame seeds and used a pestle and mortar.

I needed some roof truss joining plates (metal punched plates that join the wooden parts together).

Needed about 160 of them for building a new garage roof… they generally sold on the net for about 80p each.

Found a reclaims guy who had done a warehouse clearance and bought a job lot of…

30,000 for £200. Spent the next 2 years selling them on ebay in pack of 50 for £20 a pack.

Paid for holidays, bikes and the whole garage roof. Should have seen my Honda crv loaded floor to roof with boxes of steel plates.. can’t believe the suspension didnt collapse!

Bump for the evening crowd

Thing is this is so overpriced at nearly 2k originally for a frame that’s not going to be used for racing it has really priced people out imho.

If you think about what it is aimed at, its kind if a do all 29er, 1 hardtail to have in your fleet but way too slack and long forked for xc racing.

I think when you get into the realms of 2k for a frame like that people will generally be spending that on something full suspension when it’s long and slack.

If love one of these to replace my xc “race” hardtail and my bigger travel play hardtail but still can’t justify one at over a grand for the frame.

Think whoever above said they’ve kind of got the price now down to what the rrp should have been and with 30% off of that people would start buying them.

Love the idea of these, almost ahead of the curve..

Can anyone think of another long travel slack short chain stayed 29er hardtail frame?

I reckon there will be a fair few similar in years to come

That’s really helpful lads. Thanks!

Need to just mull this over… Think I need to start a different thread now rather than hijacking this one… alternatives???

Thanks Scot. That’s really helpful.

So from what I can see an E2 has really low stack and would work.

Only question is whether this would cause fork crowns to interface with the downtube. From what I can see Cotic usually spec externall cups on the bottom.

Edit. You’ve posted again.. will have another look

That’ll maybe do it.

110mm headtube plus 30mm stem leaves 33mm (plus a bit) for the headset cups to take up. Prob got 36mm to accommodate top and bottom cup maybe?

Anyone know the depth of hope headset cups for a tapered steerer?

I like it. The only thing stopping me buying one right now is I don’t think my forks will fit :-(

173mm steerer on it (pike I’ve taken off my sb6 as I’ve fitted a Lyrik), is there a really low stack short stem anyone does?

Thanks, yes it does have the spline like that.

I’ll have a look for one of the boost direct mount rings then.

Cheers

My two most expensive new purchases are polar opposites..

Bought a DW link Turner 5 spot, absolutely hated it. Never did work out why it felt wrong but it was promptly sold.

I think it was too short amongst other things.

Bought a yeti sb6c, I will be keeping it until it breaks or I can’t get spares. Love the thing!

There’s a Facebook group called self build campervans… very active and worth joining if you are looking at this.

With a shock up to £250 for the frame with headset included prob.

EBay completed listings are your friend here

By the time you’ve bought all the parts, you may as well have just bought the correct bike for the job.

Maybe, however it’s a very nice titanium framed bike. If I can do it for say £250 buying used parts then I wouldnt get amywjere near as nice bike for that cash.

Who is this Guy?

Excuse the pun

There’s a few bontrager sets on eBay for about £60 They come as standard on mid range emondas etc and are tubeless ready. You need to buy the bontrager rim strips such are about £12 each but they work BRILLIANTLY. Just put some pro1s on mine and they just go straight up, no faff and the way the rim strip seals with the tyre is really clever.

Search bontrager race and you want the tlr ones

What back wheel are you running?

I would go SRAM GX 1×12 if it were me. Groupset is £300 a lot of the time now and if you’ve got bc discount then £270. If you can change your freehub then do it and if not get a cheap 26 second hand rear wheel with a SRAM freehub body.

That way you get the 1x upgrade but don’t really lose out on ratios

Nice objective review there

I nearly ordered one after watching this. Then realised it’s a very biased video. I’m sure it does ride great, but it’s really a marketing video not a review.

Should be labelled marketing imho.

Last Christmas when I fired my vinyl player up

… the music actually being printed in wave form on a plasticy surface and a tiny needle reading the actual analogue signal… no 1s and 0s involved..mind blown!

To be honest it’s not going to be taking anything heavy duty on it. I’m looking at doing it as to service my forks I’ve ended up putting a sheet if bubble wrap down to keep everything clean. A dip clean surface would have been better.

Terry I quite like your idea of laminate flooring over my existing worktop… but getting it sized right will be a pain in the arse!

Think I’ve got about 5 of the tools. I’ll send you one if you like?

They are just old standard bb tools

Sorry, can you clarify…

Are you saying it does work with 170mm and that statement “it doesn’t clear” is relating to forks with an mrp ramp control?

I thought it might be something to do with + and – pressure from it’s location. It seemed manufactured hence me asking.

Thanks

One more question, I’m confused about luftkappe upgrades. Can I run one on a 170mm Lyrik? I’ve read an article that says you can if you remove all bottomless tokens and one that says you can’t full stop. :-/

I’m finding this quite interesting from a drug performance perspective.

Clenbuterol is definitely a banned drug and has proven performance benefits. Despitee its main function of opening up ypur lungs it has aide effects.. One of which is an anti catabolic effect, it stops muscle wastage when in a calorific defecit (stops your body eating muscle tissue when you don’t eat for a prolonged period). That’s used by bodybuilders and is widely documented.

Amabuterol is also a bronchial dilater of a similar nature isn’t it? That’s a genuine question I don’t know? If so could this be useful to maintain muscle mass and power through a tour when you’ve been burning 10,000s of calories for weeks on end… most people would perhaps end up less powerful as a result?

All speculation on my part…

Lot of bike for the money.

In fact that and the mattatuskil they were k kicking out for the same price last month are unbeatable for £1200

No idea how it rides, bit short by modern standards but who cares at that price.

Hi, I presume you’re Adam? They are absolutely stunning matey and if this wasn’t an exercise in “I’ve got a set of forks that are too good to sell for peanuts so I’ll build another bike” I’d have one in a heartbeat!

Way overbudget though, looking at these has got me considering selling two of my hardtail bikes and just having one though based in those frames.

I’ve noticed you’ve not got any of the normal ti x2 ones in stock, any idea when they’ll be back in?

It was the mtb or the motorbike. Wife has the car on Mondays. I think despite the off I made the right choice, sliding down the road with a 1000cc bike on top of me would have been a lot more painful.

Anyone know if I’ll have to.pay import tax ordering direct from commencal in Andorra?

Thanks for the input. They are the right price too.

How do I sneak one through the door without the Mrs realising?

That commencal is a contender, anyone know where they are made?

Really like these but Christ they’ve got expensive! Remember when a Soul was about £350.

£600 now for a steel frame with nothing but a seat clamp… That’s getting serious cash!

Shan is heavy, Dartmoor is a bit “Taiwanese bike book” like the Birds imho.

That kingdom is stunning but way over budget, I’m thinking £600 tops really.

I’ll have a look at Stanton, aren’t they usually a bit short? I’ve not looked at one in a long while.

Will check out Liteville too, thanks!

What does the video say about the connection? I can’t watch it as am at work

Cheers, don’t really like them… they seem a bit “Taiwanese bike book”

I’d say not comparible hubs. DT 350 vs Hope then yes a toss up, the 240s win hands down in terms of weight and design. But as you say they are more expensive… maybe work out what you are willing to pay, and either buy the Hopes at mates rates or except you need to pay a lot more to get a marginally better hub. I say marginally as both are great products, and at those levels it’s marginal gains.

I’m presuming this is the same one if I select 29 160mm as that lists 27.5 170mm and you can’t actually get 170mm Pikes?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/rockshox-pike-solo-air-travel-change-air-shaft/rp-prod136305?gs=1&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=Chain+Reaction-UK-PLA-PLA-All-MB-SE-Shopping+QLB+Product+Mobile&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mkwid|sLaHfZD0x_dm|pcrid|161815334793|pkw||pmt||prd|592230UK

I’m hoping they’ve had an email saying they’ve got funds?