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  • Cheeky-Monkey
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    I rejected the delivery of my “bargain” scandal because the HT had punched through a thin looking cardboard box and I could immediately see some damage. Whether it was enough to have ovalised the HT I don’t know but, honestly, I CBA to deal with it if it is and if as an outfit they can’t sort decent delivery I’m not interested.

    It’s a risk with them and I’ve already experienced their “variable” build quality (Fireline, baggy seatpost) and “unique” approach to customer service. In fairness they sorted it but only after I’d done the running around. Such stories are plentiful, I think, but then so too are lots of posts regarding happy folks with bargain frames. I’m not a hater, still have at least two of their frames (v2 Scandal and the Fireline) and have had plenty previously, since an original Inbred swapped for some booze and cash with Brant. But they’re a lottery, in terms of historical CS and in terms of QA / QC of their products IMO.

    In fairness to them they responded very quickly via Live Chat and I was refunded in full (including delivery) within the period they stated for the rejected Scandal.

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    Advice on how to report blockages on RoW (from IPROW on FB):

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    FYI Wiggle have reduced the 11-42T to £18 at the mo.

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    Got this after experiencing the oft mentioned Lezyne-vale-core-removal. So far so good. Small, seems solidly made and (despite average product pics on Evan’s site) there is a good thumb lock lever.

    https://www.evanscycles.com/fwe-micro-mtb-pump-EV196307

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    Since early teens. Now on daily steroid (Flixotide) and ventolin / salbutamol reliever. Also use the ventolin as a preventative (take it before exercise). Combo of exercise and common allergies (cats, dust etc)

    Work into some particular things (that I know trigger) slowly and am usually fine. Play squash and no real issue, even without vent’. Biking can be a bugger and running an absolute shit. Manage biking by pacing my start and vent’ beforehand, running is vent’ too, pace start and buff.

    Deal with the cold (and I believe might also be “dry”) air by pulling a buff up over nose & mouth. Warms and wets air and works well for me, especially when running. Some might struggle with the slight (or perceived) “resistance” to breathing through fabric. I persevered and it made cold / winter running significantly better, for me.

    Regular running makes the most difference to my overall feeling of “lung health”. Others may vary.

    Overall it’s nothing to panic about. Find your triggers, find what works, do it, try and chillax ;-) Stressing never helps, quite literally with for many asthmatics.

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    “Hobby” – who Lee?

    Funny old “hobby” when you’re a Director in it.

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    See top of page 17 re: James – not sure if this is a “whoosh” moment on my part or I’ve missed something?

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    General duties
    As a director, you must perform a set of 7 duties under the Companies Act 2006.

    These still apply if:

    you’re not active in your role as director
    someone else tells you what to do
    you act as a director but have not been formally appointed
    you control a board of directors without being on it
    Company’s constitution
    You must follow the company’s constitution and its articles of association. These are written rules about running the company, agreed by the members, directors and the company secretary.

    The constitution sets out what powers you’re granted as a director, and the purpose of those powers.

    Promote the success of the company
    You must act in the company’s best interests to promote its success. You must consider the:

    consequences of decisions, including the long term
    interests of its employees
    need to support business relationships with suppliers, customers and others
    impact of its operations on the community and environment
    company’s reputation for high standards of business conduct
    need to act fairly to all members of the company
    If the company becomes insolvent, your responsibilities as director will apply towards the creditors, instead of the company. A creditor is anyone owed money by the company.

    Independent judgement
    You must not allow other people to control your powers as a director. You can accept advice, but you must use your own independent judgement to make final decisions.

    Exercise reasonable care, skill and diligence
    You must perform to the best of your ability. The more qualified or experienced you are, the greater the standard expected of you.

    You must use any relevant knowledge, skill or experience you have (for example, if you’re a qualified accountant).

    Avoid conflicts of interest
    You must avoid situations where your loyalties might be divided. You should consider the positions and interests of your family, to avoid possible conflicts.

    You should tell other directors and members about any possible conflict of interest, and follow any process set out in the company’s articles of association.

    This duty continues to apply if you’re no longer a director. You must not take advantage of any property, information or opportunity you became aware of as a director.

    Third party benefits
    You must not accept benefits from a third party that are offered to you because you’re a director. This could cause a conflict of interest.

    The company may allow you to accept benefits like reasonable corporate hospitality, if it’s clear there’s no conflict of interest.

    Interests in a transaction
    You must tell the other directors and members if you might personally benefit from a transaction the company makes. For example, if the company plans to enter a contract with a business owned by a member of your family.

    Other duties
    There are other duties you must perform as a company director. For example, you must:

    not misuse the company’s property
    apply confidentiality about the company’s affairs

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/being-a-company-director

    This seemed quite pertinent:

    need to support business relationships with suppliers, customers and others

    Cheeky-Monkey
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    I’m confused, what makes this chap so (seemingly) blameless in all this? Some might say he’s even portraying himself as a victim.

    He was a director, with all the duties and responsibilities etc associated to the role. He might not have been a major shareholder but even so. Surely he was a bit closer to the action, particularly after putting so much effort in, that just saying “woe is me too” is a bit unconvincing?

    Look back far enough in this thread (IIRC) and there’s a critique of “James” and his customer service triage. He didn’t seem to get away so lightly on the basis of a similar approach (to paraphrase; “don’t blame me Guv, I just work here”).

    1500 hrs is 40 weeks work (7.5hrs/day, 5 days/week). So pretty much full time for a year. Realistic or hyperbolic?

    EDIT – too slow!

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    Erythema migrans (EM) rash
    An EM rash is diagnostic of Lyme disease. However, at least 30% of UK patients may have no rash and may not recall a tick bite. It usually develops within three to 30 days of a tick bite, may not be a typical bull’s eye and may be difficult to differentiate from insect bites. It is not usually hot or itchy and may be distant from the site of the bite. There may be multiple lesions. It may be misdiagnosed as ringworm, cellulitis or other skin conditions and is usually greater than five centimetres in diameter.

    If uncertain, seek an urgent specialist opinion and consider punch biopsy for molecular (PCR) testing. Avoid any undue delay in initiating treatment.

    Maybe I’ve misunderstood your post but it appears you are saying a bullseye (if it shows up, and not everyone does, plus it’s quite variable in how it presents) is NOT an indication of Lymes whereas my understanding is that it is i.e bullseye = Lymes or at the very least a significant likelihood of it (nothing every being 100% etc etc).

    EDIT – the quote is from one of the links someone else has provided. It’s easier and quicker than me trying to write it out in my own words.

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    Be aware that a bullseye rash is only an indication that you’ve been bitten. They don’t always develop and are no indication of Lyme disease

    I’m not a medic but from most guidance I’ve read and other knowledge this statement is WRONG, as others have pointed out. If in doubt follow some of the links that have been provided.

    Provided you’re pulling the whole tick I don’t think it matter whether you twist.

    I believe this advice arose because you cannot (you can but it’s a palaver and people are less likely to do it) keep pressure on tweezers and twist much beyond c.180 degrees with the average wrist ;-) This is important because (correctly positioned tweezers – grasping the tick as close to the skin as possible i.e. as low down on its body) prevents the tick disgorging into the wound / bite / person / animal when you “stress” it by pulling it out (and hence why all the lighter, vaseline / suffocating solutions are less good / preferable / a daft idea as they all stress the tick and increase the risk of it vomiting its guts into you). The disgorged gut contents are a significant potential source of infection and disease, including Lymes. Hence, if you use tweezers it was easier to close off their “throats” and pull straight out, rather than get halfway through ulling one off and then have to change your grip.

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    Singular did the Rooster via Kickstarter and that (in my personal experience) was a disaster. I think everyone got what they ordered in the end (I did) but it took a long, long time and was not a great experience.

    Cheeky-Monkey
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    I’ll just leave this here:

    https://nickhussey.work/blog-1#/addressing-vulpine-failure/

    Better written (as in style, grammar etc – though a little “breathless” for my liking) but it still sounds like self-obsessed, self-justifying horse-flop.

    Hey ho.

    People. The internet. So much shit.

    Cheeky-Monkey
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    It won’t be OK to ride the Descent Line. Whilst it might look OK at the top, just off the main road, the trail will finish in or immediately adjacent to the logging area.

    Logging uses big, dangerous plant. Being in its vicinity is not a good idea.

    Please respect the closure and don’t be tempted to circumvent it. Recovering the trails after the felling will be much easier if we have a good relationship with FC. Bikers not respecting the (reasonable) H&S restrictions probably won’t help the SingletrAction / FC relationship 8-)

    Like most things Stainburn – patience is a virtue ;-)

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    I agree. Hopefully, in seeing this some who might not bother responding might be spurred to do so.

    Having been involved in volunteering on the MTB side for a decade+ I am acutely aware of the general lack of involvement your average rider will take. Not being nasty, just experience, and given all the frustrations and glacial pace of progress I can’t entirely blame them at times *-)

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    Got this recently from the Ramblers (see the bit in bold for where their approach diverges from many riders):

    As a Rambler, you will understand the importance of paths and access rights for enabling you to experience the best that Britain has to offer on foot. So, you might be excited to know about the unique opportunity you now have to influence policy and walkers’ rights in Wales.

    Welsh Government are consulting on the ways that people enjoy Wales’ incredible landscape. Whether you live in Wales, enjoy visiting or just think you might like to in the future, you can have a say and help ensure Wales’ future as a world class walking country.

    Take action now ?
    Welsh Government are proposing some excellent changes that we have been campaigning for along with our supporters and partners. We welcome extended access to coast and cliffs, which will allow walkers to enjoy the coastline and national coastal path even more. We are also delighted with proposals for a Welsh statutory code for responsible access; the removal of some restrictions on the use of open access land; an all-Wales digitised definitive map of footpaths; and the removal of the 2026 cut-off date for historical paths to be recorded.

    However, we do have some concerns about opening parts of the public rights of way network to other uses – such as cycling and horse riding. We support opening up the countryside to more people but are concerned that some footpaths simply aren’t suitable for bikes or horses. We are therefore asking that any changes to paths are made on a case by case basis, guided by local knowledge and path suitability.

    You can help us make sure that Wales remains an amazing country to explore on foot by responding to the consultation.

    Help us make Wales the best country for walkers ?
    You don’t need to live in Wales to be affected by this important consultation. Even if you’ve never set foot in Wales, there are important implications for walkers all over Britain.

    Not only will the outcome impact future access and freedom to explore Wales on foot, it might be considered when it comes to future access in England. Scotland already has a ‘true right to roam’ and we have long campaigned for better access in England and Wales, making this an important opportunity for all walkers in Britain.

    Thank you for your support.

    Angela Charlton,
    Director of Ramblers Cymru

    Respond to the consultation in a few clicks ?

    Cheeky-Monkey
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    Perhaps family / friends / someone might be interested in making a representation to the public inquiry mentioned in this thread:

    http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/psa-cycling-and-the-justice-system-enquiry-deadline-16th-jan

    Try to make something good come out of something that is so awful and sh!te.

    Cheeky-Monkey
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    .. and this was really cool to see about Esholt:

    http://peoplecanbradforddistrict.org.uk/2016/04/25/esholt-woods-environment-day/

    Bike riders and Friends of Esholt Wood held an environmental action day on Sunday 24th April. The group of mostly cyclists have built a series of challenging cycle routes in the woodlands which are jointly owned by Bradford Council and Yorkshire Water. Now the building work is close to completion the group have moved on to landscaping and woodland management.

    Environment Day landscaping
    Native woodland wildflower mix and crab apple trees are being sown on to compensate for disturbance. The newly planted trees are being maintained and bat and bird boxes put up to provide additional nesting and roosting. The wood was also deep cleaned and produced a surprising haul of rubbish, including a tent.

    esholt seeding
    Woodland wildflower sowing
    A spokesperson for the group said we enjoy riding in the wood, its a wonderful place to be so we thought it is only right to do our bit to look after the wood, keep it clean and help the new plantation get established. We always get a positive response from other people and hope that more will get involved when we hold our next action day.

    esholt clean up

    Cheeky-Monkey
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    Also found this:

    http://peoplecanbradforddistrict.org.uk/2016/05/19/welcome-buck-wood/

    Walkers, cyclists and horse riders were welcomed to Buck Wood as part of a open day to held jointly by the Friends of Buck Wood, British Horse Society, Bradford West Neighbourhoods and Trees and Woodlands. Friends were on hand to promote the “share with care” message for use of the woodlands many paths.

    The woodland is well used and it is important that each user understands their responsibilities to other users and the woodland.

    Sharing with care has taken on added importance now that the wood contains a scheduled ancient monument dating from pre-historic times.

    The central path is now a permissive bridleway to help take horse riders off Thackley Road.

    Cheeky-Monkey
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    Don’t know. All the info I have is what came back from the officer @ Bradford MBC and is repeated above.

    AFAIK, permissive bridleways are much as the name suggest and can be permitted for a particular user / set of users. I’m not a RoW expert though.

    I imagine they made it permissive for horses as that was the group that was asking / shouting loudest / caught the right persons ear / etc. Fair? Not really. The way of the world? Probably. It is a bit strange to allow horses yet specifically exclude bikes on a route unless it’s a dedicated canter (like the bit up at the Chevin). In most other circumstances we just have to rub along by respect and sharing with care, like all the other BWs. As for an impact, I personally think shod hoves make at least as much of one as a bike.

    I might take a wander down and look in the next week or two.

    FoBW are OK. I wouldn’t say they were anti-bike but I don’t think they (like lots of people) particularly understand how bikers “work” and what they would like, that’s even after we did all the work on the jumps / pump track and had quite a bit of engagement with them. Not being unpleasant about it, just my overall impression. Then again, bikers sometimes don’t understand other interest groups / stakeholders perspectives and desires so it’s always a bit of a challenge to strike a balance of what to ask for / what can be achieved. IIRC the Friends were very keen on ecology and history. Good on them, someone needs to look out for this stuff.

    If I find out anymore I’ll share it.

    8-)

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    I saw this and contacted Bradford MBC (who indeed own (I think) and certainly manage) Buck Wood. They were happy for me to share this response:

    Hi Tim

    Thank you for your recent email that Tim has passed on to me. Buck Wood is managed by my colleagues in Woodlands (Bob Thorp) but the bridleway is something I have knowledge of.

    To cut a long story short horse riders asked if they could have additional access within the Buck Wood site. The Friends of Buck Wood and Bob agreed to this but there were concerns that horse use would affect an Scheduled Ancient Monument. It was decided that an alternative route for horse riders would be provided, away from the monument and that this would be for horse riders only. Other site users could continue to use the main surfaced route through the site.

    This route was provided and signed but it became un-useable due to surface damage over the winter months. As we were looking at ways to improve the surface it came to light that the Monument site is much bigger than first thought. The full extent now covers parts of the bridleway provided so it has been decided to close the route and to allow horse riders to use the surface route through the site and Monument area. This has been a recent decision and I believe that existing signage will be removed/amended in due course.

    Use of the site will be monitored to assess the impact public access will have on the Monument area.

    I trust the above information is of use, please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions in this matter.

    Regards

    Darren Hinchliffe
    Area Rights of Way Officer
    Countryside & Rights of Way Service
    Tel: 01274 435682
    1st Floor North, Jacob’s Well, Bradford BD1 5RW

    For what it matters, I asked as a member of Bradford’s Local Access Forum (LAF). I also have a bit of history / experience with Buck Woods and their Friend’s group having been one of the people from SingletrAction who helped design / re-design the jump and pump tracks in the woods.

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    This may be of use to some:

    Asthma UK website[/url]

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    I worked (as an environmental consultant) on the Tow Law disposal site in the NE (after they stopped using pyres to dispose of carcasses). A big pit of rotting cows and sheep was a bit grim. At first the biosecurity measures were pretty intense (big odour suppression units, lots of chemicals and pressure washing).

    I vividly recall the sight and sound of sheep carcasses being run over by a waste compactor on a large concrete slab before being scooped up by a loading bucker and tipped into disposal pit. Cows were generally lifted in by a strap off one leg. They all had to be pierced to avoid gas build up and avoid the risk of bloated carcasses bursting.

    Walking over the top of temporary capping in those pits was like crossing a trampoline or jelly. The water came out of the carcasses first (bodies being 75%-ish water) and it was akin to a swimming pool filled with a really nasty, runny jelly. A temporary earth cap flipping on this jelly layer on one site and a dozer getting pretty well immersed weren’t much fun.

    I remember colleagues working on another pit in north (?) Cumbria that the Royal Engineers had done the initial construction of. Unfortunately, whilst they are probably excellent in conflict the nuances of needing the pit to be in cohesive soil (clay) for containment purposes was missed. It endeded up intersecting a water-bearing gravel layer. Subsequent “leakage” from the pit turned local groundwater pink (not such a cute and fluffy colour in this instance). Eventually it was sorted out by installing a pretty big cut-off wall round the whole area.

    They were “interesting” times. We had a suspected arson attack on the Dept of Environment site cabins. The resulting heat melted all our PCs and testing equipment in the neighbouring cabin. The locals also liked to hurl rocks at the haulage wagons bringing in the carcasses.

    Despite all this I remember enjoying a few rides at Hamsterley on a demo-bike Orange Sub-5 from Leisure Lakes. I thought some of the Welsh centres were pre-F&M but the 7 Stanes were a direct response to the impact in the Scottish Borders.

    I also remember Lincolnshire beaches being closed at first which all seemed a bit mad.

    Cheeky-Monkey
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    If you’re still in Leeds I can lend you an On One bag. We used to ride together on the N Leeds / Bikemagic rides many, many years ago (Jules, Steve, John Hooper, Badger etc).

    Email: timsellors@googlemail dot com

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    I thought Hope Hoops (their factory built wheels) were all the same price irrespective of rim choice (mavic, stan’s or their own)?

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    Del – email me re: book, I may be able to help timsellors[at]gmail[dot[com

    IMBA – some great people with the best of intentions, did some good stuff, weren’t always effective, suffered from classic problem where people want them to do stuff and provide the solution but IMBA couldn’t, could only help people do stuff themselves, was involved with them for a long time whilst also being part of SingletrAction, last slow and painful breaths a couple of years ago whereas in reality it probably became ineffective before that.

    In Scotland there’s an organisation Developing MTB in Scotland (IIRC) which was/is pretty effective and funded (paid for a chap called Graham MacLean, again IIRC). http://www.dmbins.com/ Don’t know so much about them.

    Think it’s backed by Govt or FC(Scotland) or various things so better cash backing, dedicated officer etc etc, tied into the fact MTB centres in Scotland are a tourist draw so they have decided to invest a bit more. Source of potential info though Scotland-centric.

    OpenMTB – fledgling UK-wide group AFAIK, met some of the guys who helped start it off, current SingletrAction chair has been to the odd meeting. Seems promising but I think the issue will always be whether it can find some cash to pay people to do it as a job, rather than rely on key roles to be filled by volunteers. I think this is why any national representative organisation has had problems, so far. And when looking at setting up another body that will need money you have to wonder whether it wouldn’t be better as part of an existing organisation e.g. CTC. Benefits of existing systems, scale etc.

    For my 2p, and if you actually want to physically “do” something find whatever local, semi-official group exists in your area (e.g. SingletrAction, PMBA, Cock Hill etc etc) and get involved. If you just want to put a few quid into something cycling rights related then CTC. Nothing wrong with that, something better than nothing.

    Just my thoughts and a bit of personal experience. By no means gospel 8-)

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    Water, especially an old water course, plus earthworks fill structures is a tricky combination. Really sad to see the damage and gutted for those that have put in so much time and effort to the trails. Still, its just a place, no one’s home or livelihood like some of the other poor buggers caught by the floods.

    As for the internet warriors :rolleyes:

    Still keeping fingers crossed for a good solution in due course. SingletrAction will be happy to help PMBA if we can 8-)

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    Aye, not the FC bit. The whole woods up there are a bit “average” (as a non-silviculturist). Not stopped me spending the last decade up there rooting around for rock and buggering about with the trails though ;-)

    Anyway, you can’t have the boulders because someone else has the mineral rights:

    Mineral Rights
    The Mineral Rights are reserved to a third party and as such are not included within the sale.

    ;-)

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    That’s a shame and I’m sorry to hear of the problems. I imagine there’s a solution somewhere / somehow that will allow riding to continue. It’ll just take time and effort to reach. I’m sceptical that all the money and effort to create the trails at both locations will be “wasted” by a metaphorical padlocking of the gates. However, if you want to shake up the community and get a response there’s no headline in “things are a bit tight, finances are under a squeeze”, better to be dramatic about it ;-)

    Gutted for all the staff, particularly Tony who’s always been a top bloke in my dealings with him.

    Unsurprising that significant funding cuts are biting in “non-essential” LA areas. I suspect it will only get worse in many ways, for many people,, in years to come.

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    Looking to sell mine with bits. Full details in Classifieds but in brief; medium yellow with anything cage forks, rear wheel (northpaw rim), Acros headset (probably) and red front Hope hub. Everything (bar headset as still waiting for) is BNIB.

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    I emailed and that was the response.

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    Update from Sam today (29 June 2015):

    “They are on the boat, should be landing in two weeks.”

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    ignore that lee likes bikes crap. if you`ve ridden before you will know what will work and where you need rollers.

    Northwind is there any science behind how much you armour or dig down? a bit of terram and drainange could save you lots of stone? considering road construction – if the ground is ok you could get away with a quite thin layer of T1 and the loads are much more than the odd bike.

    Sorry but PTN is an excellent book with a massive amount of great advice. It’s well worth the triffling sum of $10 for the pdf download and it supports a guy who has freely shared vast amounts of info about PTs years before they were ever really being built in the UK.

    There’s not that many useful parallels that can be taken from road construction and used for trails. They’re much more akin to upland footpaths than black-topped or metalled roads.

    I’ve helped build the PT at Rawcliffe Bar (outside York) that a mate Craig Smith / Knacker designed. A joint venture between him, York CC and volunteer group SingletrAction. RB is mostly Type 1 with a thick layer of fines watered and whackered into place as a running surface. You might be able to get away with just Type 1 but I’d rather have the fines to create that smooth, fast surface. IT seems to have worked but like all PTs will suffer from poor riders / poor techniques / damage / weather so will need topping up and maintenance.

    Alternatively you could also go for a smaller grading of stone and ask the quarry to add a bucket load or two of dust to it. The dust is the fines that are left after the crushing process and are generally a waste / not suitable engineering fill so they’re glad to be rid of it.

    Personally I’d rather build from subsoil which then lets you re-shape easily but that depends on other conditions being suitable which doesn’t seem the case from OPs earlier posts.

    You can always tap Knacker up for advice via the dedicated page on FB for “Rawcliffe Bar Pump Track”. Can’t recall if it’s a closed group or not but if it is that’s just to avoid spammers and crap.

    Good luck with it. PTs rock 8-)

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    CBA, either.

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    * which is not strictly true, because access rights are clearly won incrementally. Despite this, I’m not prepared to lose my life fighting a cause that won’t be achieved in my lifetime, especially when willfully ignoring current access legislation is so successful at achieving nigh on the same thing right now.

    I know the feeling and TBH that’s why I’m not very interested in getting involved with a big “campaign” like that. My point was that there’s lots of other stuff worth doing (which you seem to do by reference to your local group). Like I said, I think I went off on a bit of a tangent about general trail stuff when others were, fairly enough, talking about advocacy.

    Bah, eloquence eludes me at the mo.

    Happy trails 8-)

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    I don’t think either are a realistic proposition without a national body cohesive enough to campaign on that front. If there’s one thing mtbers are not, its cohesive on a national scale.

    Personally, I make continuous decisions about trail sustainability in my area, and our tiny group does bits to push through new trail and improve sustainability of both existing and new stuff. Its all small scale and based on spreading traffic and drainage improvements though, which isn’t really enough to be scalable to something more formal.

    Perfectly fair points, agree with most of them. I read your earlier post as “just ride, don’t bother with anything else” (to paraphrase crudely). In doing so I think I’ve misinterpreted it in context of the other points in the thread.

    8-)

    As for national representation, I think it’s a nice aspiration but hard and unlikely to happen anytime soon. We’ve a heap more to learn just doing “local” stuff first.

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    Campaigning for Scottish-style access would be good, or just carry on as we are.

    I’m not sure if what you mean is the same thing but I think in the UK we’d be better (because IMO it might be more achievable) to campaign for access based on suitability for use or access to all the PRoW network except where specifically prohibited.

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    I could burn my spare hours on trail advocacy for my entire life for nothing, or I can continue business as usual. It’s a no brainer.

    I get what you mean. Some aspects of it work at a glacial pace and, even when taking into account other stakeholders issues, still seem to be based on arcane, uninformed, illogical viewpoints. These are mind bendingly frustrating for everyone and put off the vast majority of potential volunteers.

    On the other hand I’ve been involved with an organisation that’s almost single handedly responsible for building a small but fiendishly technical set of trails for all, built one of, if not the first, pump track in the UK, helps build and maintain regularly at three different Forestry Commission managed sites (well, ones always been a bit wobbely), re-built a pretty poor tech’ area into something more durable and interesting / worthwhile, helped various people start thinking about trails and how to do it, including other volunteer / advocacy organisations, liaised with councils, agreed RoW settlements etc etc etc.

    But moreover I’ve had quite a bit of fun and some great craic with people either previously or still involved in it.

    I don’t mention this to toot our own horn but sometimes people doing stuff can make a difference. I / we are the living breathing proof of it. There are lots of other groups that have had plenty of success too and I will admit there’s also been plenty of disasters. On the whole though I think things are better, at least in part, thanks to these people / groups taking the time and making the effort.

    It’s not for everyone but there is a place for it. By using a bit of selection about what you can achieve and what is “worth” pursuing things can be achieved. Not everything, and not always to the loudests’ / most vocals’ satisfaction, but good stuff that is worth having and makes the riding world a little bigger / better / more diverse / richer.

    As for the survey, I think it has some flaws in the questions and the underlying assumptions / premise comes through a little too strongly. Whatever, no harm in a bit of banter about it. Still think there’s much more scope for people to get involved with stuff that can make a positive difference.

    You can’t expect all riders to do so and people can’t be guilted into it but so long as there are groups / means for people who want to do so to get involved that’s got to be good.

    Cheeky-Monkey
    Free Member

    I used the “Contact Us” page on their website. No specific response but the shipping confirmation came through shortly after so I assumed one led to the other.

    http://duffbag.myshopify.com/pages/contact-us

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