I have only raised an moral and ethical question to the forum for debate.

By viewing it as morally or ethically questionable, you have already outed yourself

we also seem to be classing our biological origin and the notion of mother and father as similarly irrelevant. It’s not; it’s all we have, it’s who we are and you only have to talk to people who were adopted to see that many of them struggle with the notion that they were given up or wonder who their ‘real’ i.e. their biological parents are/were. That search for identity is hard wired into us and the parental instinct to nurture and care for our own off spring, is kind of important evolutionarily speaking

Is this all just made up? Do you actually go around talking to adopted people about this? Seems a strange thing to do? Do you have the same discussions with people who are not adopted? And all that stuff about ‘hard wiring’ what do you actually mean?

The Golliwog doll is a simple tool/image to depict a colour of a doll, it’s the underlying attitudes and base level roll play put into the doll whilst playing with it that determines whether you perceive it racist or racism.

Not so neutral as that. The doll is a caricature and echoes some pretty unpleasant other caricatures

The Golliwog doll is a simple tool/image to depict a colour of a doll, it’s the underlying attitudes and base level roll play put into the doll whilst playing with it that determines whether you perceive it racist or racism.

Not so neutral as that. The doll is a caricature and echoes some pretty unpleasant other caricatures

Reckon just about everyone here thinks it’s racist. Some argument about the details. Best close the thread here otherwise we will end up with the usual STW fight in an empty room

The Signal and the Noise
and most things by Mark Kurlansky

Got the missus some tulips.

Hoping for the same in return?

A golliwog to me is just a doll. They bear no resemblance to persons living or dead.

That’s just me though. If people don’t like them then fair enough; I haven’t lost anything.

Born in the seventies, FWIW

Who do you think might see it as rude or offensive? Why might that be!

What on earth could be wrong with the term wog? It’s pc gone mad, what next?

Barbara Speake’s? Did she meet Phil Collins’s mum?

And randomly, did she ever have anything to do with dollhouses?

all ears. Any ideas on environment friendly packaging for protecting breakables in transit?

Paper or paper blankets

Readings went up and down during the day/night end result was I have nothing to be concerned about.

does that mean your BP is not 144/90? What did it go up and down to?

Bubble wrap? Get with the times Daddio. Think of the planet!

Being a full Member, you have to have freedom of movement. Anyone from the EU can come here, as we can go anywhere in the EU.

The irony is that during the period 2004 to about 2011, Britain had a much more open policy for migrants from A8 countries, that’s ‘eastern europeans’ Who have ‘taken or jobs and undercut our businesses’ personally, I’m quite happy with that migration. However, Britain and Sweden were the only two countries which allowed unrestricted movement from those countries. The rest of the EU had restrictions in place for 7 years. So… If your thinking is that you want Britain to make decisions independent of the rest of the EU and you object to ‘unrestricted immigration’, then you might just have some internal conflict

If you want your views and are preaching free speech etc then you have to accept all views

are you saying that the OP should just have to tolerate the tirade directed at him?

Stroud for the Maths, Castro for the signal processing

I like the paper folding on its self.

Yes, that’s the secret to Millefeuille

Get yourself to a decent Chinese supermarket. Some very good knives for about a tenner. Sharpen up quickly and hold the edge. Perhaps not as.long as the expensive Japanese ones, but much better as a daily use knife

Pretty much right except pi x 2inches isn’t a foot

I’m not sure I understand that, of course it is, it’s an inch. Was that a typo, do you mean “difference”?

I mean the distance between the two ends of the string

and 12 is really convenient for counting on one hand

how do you post a pic?

I’m just clarifying the inaccuracy of some of the comments being quoted

I didn’t see that, it seems no clearer

Not a benefit that leaves someone without money though.

No, you’re right. Everyone has enough to live on and it’s always there when they need it.

Everything is fine

Fit what?

a benefit one waits 8 weeks for

You might want to do some more research CM

PIP seems to fit

FF, you strike me as a decent chap, but what on earth does that statement mean? Plus, what benefit makes you wait 8 weeks?

second guess…Disability related benefits? DLA? PIP?

No, it went from 6 to 5 But.. some takes longer and 8 is not so out of scale.

and 5 is not really a socially supportive and nurturing wait period, is it?

FF, you strike me a decent chap, but what on earth does that statement mean? Plus, what benefit makes you wait 8 weeks?

Universal credit

Pay tax

What Vice??
really? I mean, get a grip!

St Mungos & the rest of the wonderful organisations that offer help.

It’s very kind of you to notice my good work

How about we sack off giving money away in foreign aid & help our homeless, (the ones who aren’t intentionally so)

Why not do both?

Often people who raise this, do neither

Lots of organisations offer assistance.

Thy do and many charities, quite apart from the fact that as a state we expect charities to care for our unfortunate, for some, what is offered is not appropriate. I understand that there are enough hostel beds, but actually hostels can be quite violent places. Many of the permanently homeless have a number co-issues, victims of abuse, mental and physical health issues and so can not survive in hostels. What they need, is a home of their own, just as a starting point.

The model we tend to run here is to try to habilitate the homeless, until they can hold down a job and get a place to live. We should start at the other end, find them a home, from there, they can rebuild their lives.

kilkenny

You bastards!

Red-blooded male

:lol:

but she looks different to Sarah Jessica Parker

Like when she was in Flight of the Navigator?

I do wonder why we have a number if these arguments, race, sex, gender, etc. Where we have groups of folks who just don’t ‘get it’, on both sides. The seems to be no common frame of reference which allows folks to talk about the same thing. So arguments are orthogonal and we get nowhere.

No! You’re an argumentative singularity!

Oh! Nice thanks

Essentialising, it might be essentialising