To Jens Voigt, there is no such thing as a “race day”. Just training days with motorcycles.

Anybody follow @JensVoigtFacts on twitter – keeping me amused tonight whilst listening to some tunes and enjoying some vino.

“Jens Voigt doesn’t complain about what suffering does to him, but suffering constantly complains about getting picked on by Jens Voigt.”

http://www.jensvoigtfacts.com/

voeckler V Cadel on stage 20 may be a shake up for the yellow, dont write of AC yet either, he looked smooth and comfortable today. Still stages 17/18 & 19 provide plenty of opportunities for movement in GC.

voeckler has some balls mind. Even before yellow in the Vendee/Britanny areas he was leading breakaways and battling.

Can he do it? I hope so as he more about him than those Schlecks and Contador. What about Mr Evans though he looks comfy so far.

82kg
Firm Spring
4 + High
4+ low
DH damper – aftermarket fitting

I would love to do that or something like it. Respect

My mate is 30 and married a 60 yr old woman. However – he went out with her daughter for quite a while before hand.

He now has step grandkids at 30. Mad eh!

+1 here – reported yesterday and apparently DRAC had it sorted.

He lost Bernhard Eisel quite a way back and was the only HTC guy in those last 2 corners. No launch man as such – i think he would have still had Bernie after that last corner in normal circumstances.

not enough roadie for me – there are no other decent roadie forums imo. Although with most roadies being in their mid 40’s they probably dont know that the web is much use away from porn.

ernie – ive just noticed that.

After my last post I thought I’f have a look at News Corp and see what other holdings they are involved with.

Holy crap…. I had no idea this was such a big operation.

I know its wikipedia but:

Holdings

Books

HarperCollins book publishing company
HarperCollins India (40%)[clarification needed] joint venture with India Today Group
Zondervan Christian book publisher
Inspirio – religious gift production.

Newspapers

Australia published by News Limited.
The Australian (Nationwide)
Community Media Group (16 QLD & NSW suburban/regional titles)
Cumberland-Courier Newspapers (23 suburban/commuter titles)
The Courier-Mail (Queensland)
The Sunday Mail (Queensland)
The Cairns Post (Cairns, Queensland)
The Gold Coast Bulletin (Gold Coast, Queensland)
The Townsville Bulletin (Townsville, Queensland)
The Daily Telegraph (New South Wales)
The Sunday Telegraph (New South Wales)
Herald Sun (Victoria)
Sunday Herald Sun (Victoria)
The Weekly Times (Victoria)
Leader Newspapers (33 suburban Melbourne, VIC titles)
MX (Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane CBD)
The Geelong Advertiser (Geelong, Victoria)
The Advertiser (South Australia)
The Sunday Mail (South Australia)
Messenger Newspapers (11 suburban Adelaide, SA titles)
The Sunday Times (Western Australia)
The Mercury (Tasmania)
Quest Newspapers (19 suburban Brisbane, QLD titles)
The Sunday Tasmanian (Tasmania)
Northern Territory News (Northern Territory)
The Sunday Territorian (Northern Territory)
The Tablelands Advertiser (Atherton Tablelands and the Far North, Queensland)
Fiji
Fiji Times (National) (10%)
Nai Lalakai (10%)
Shanti Dut (10%)
Papua New Guinea
Papua New Guinea Post-Courier (National) (62.5%)
UK and Ireland newspapers, published by subsidiaries of News International Ltd.
News Group Newspapers Ltd.
The Sun (published in Scotland as The Scottish Sun and in Ireland as The Irish Sun)
News of the World (ending publication 10 July 2011)
Times Newspapers Ltd.
The Sunday Times
The Times
The Times Literary Supplement
US newspapers and magazines
The New York Post
Community Newspaper Group
The Brooklyn Paper
Bronx Times-Reporter
Brooklyn Courier-Life
Queens Times Ledger
Dow Jones & Company
Consumer Media Group
The Wall Street Journal
Wall Street Journal Europe
Wall Street Journal Asia
Barron’s – weekly financial markets magazine.
Marketwatch – Financial news and information website.
Far Eastern Economic Review
Enterprise Media Group
Dow Jones Newswires – global, real-time news and information provider.
Factiva – provides business news and information together with content delivery tools and services.
Dow Jones Indexes – stock market indexes and indicators, including the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
Dow Jones Financial Information Services – produces databases, electronic media, newsletters, conferences, directories, and other information services on specialised markets and industry sectors.
Betten Financial News – leading Dutch language financial and economic news service.
Local Media Group
Ottaway Community Newspapers – 8 daily and 15 weekly regional newspapers.
STOXX (33%)- joint venture with Deutsche Boerse and SWG Group for the development and distribution of Dow Jones STOXX indices.
Vedomosti (33%) – Russia’s leading financial newspaper (joint venture with Financial Times and Independent Media).
SmartMoney
The Timesledger Newspapers of Queens, New York:
Bayside Times, Whitestone Times, Flushing Times, Fresh Meadows Times, Little Neck Ledger, Jackson Heights Times, Richmond Hill Times, Jamaica Times, Laurelton Times, Queens Village Times, Astoria Times, Forest Hills Ledger, Ridgewood Ledger, Howard Beach Times
The Courier-Life Newspapers in Brooklyn
The Brooklyn Paper
Caribbean Life
Times-Herald Record (Middletown, New York)

[edit] Magazines

News America Marketing (Smartsource) (weekly Sunday newspaper coupon insert/website)
Australian
Alpha Magazine
Australian Country Style
Australian Golf Digest
Australian Good Taste
Big League
BCME
Delicious
Donna Hay
Fast Fours
GQ (Australia)
Gardening Australia
InsideOut (Aust)
Lifestyle Pools
Live to Ride
Notebook
Overlander 4WD
Modern Boating
Modern Fishing
Parents
Pure Health
Super Food Ideas
Truck Australia
Truckin’ Life
twowheels
twowheels scooter
Vogue (Australia)
Vogue Entertaining & Travel
Vogue Living
InsideOut (UK Based Magazine)

[edit] Music and radio

Fox Film Music Group

[edit] Russia

Nashe (50%)
Best FM (50%)

[edit] Sport

50% of the National Rugby League (Australia and New Zealand)
Majority ownership of the Brisbane Broncos (68.9%) and full ownership of the Melbourne Storm rugby league team.
Colorado Rockies (15%)

[edit] Studios

Fox Filmed Entertainment: 20th Century Fox’s parent company
20th Century Fox: a film production/distribution company
Fox Searchlight Pictures – specialized films.
Fox 2000 Pictures – general audience feature films.
20th Century Fox Television – primetime television programming.
20th Television – television distribution (syndication).
Fox 21 – low scripted/budgeted television production company.
Fox Television Studios (productions)- market specific programming e.g. COPS and network television company.
Fox Television Studios International
Fox World Productions
Fox World Australia
Fox TV Studios France
Fox TV Studios India
Natural History New Zealand – natural world documentaries, non-fiction programming.
Fox Faith – Promotion and distribution of Christian and related “family friendly” movies on DVD and some theatrical release.
Fox Studios Australia, Sydney, New South Wales
Blue Sky Studios – production of CGI films e.g. Ice Age.
Fox Entertainment Group
New Regency Productions (20%) – general audience feature films.
Regency Enterprises (20%) – parent company of New Regency Productions (50%).
BSkyB Studios London, England
FOX Star Studios New Delhi,India

[edit] TV

News Corp agreed to sell eight of its television stations to Oak Hill Capital Partners for approximately $1.1 billion as of 22 December 2007. The stations are US Fox affiliates.[32]
[edit] Broadcast

Fox Broadcasting Company (Fox), a US broadcast television network
My Network TV, a US broadcast television network
Fox Television Stations Group, a group of owned and operated Fox television stations
Saeta TV Channel 10, channel of Uruguay
ITV plc (7.5%), a British broadcast television network and the UK’s largest advertising revenue based broadcaster

News Corp Europe
bTV, a broadcast television network in Bulgaria. They sold this to CME in February 2010.
B1 TV (12,5%), a broadcast television network in Romania, in partnership with Ismar International NVkkkk
Fox Televizija, a broadcast television network in Serbia (49%). They sold this to Antenna Group in January 2010
Fox Turkey, a Turkish terrestrial channel (56,5%) (formerly TGRT)
Imedi Media Holding (100%), a Georgian radio and TV broadcaster.
Imedi Television
Radio Imedi
Israel 10 (9%), a terrestrial channel in Israel.
LNT (100%), a terrestrial channel in Latvia
TV5 Riga (100%), a terrestrial channel in Latvia
Cielo (100%), a free channel in Italy

ANTV (20%), a private television station in Indonesia, under the administration and label of STAR TV
Prime Television New Zealand – commercial TV station, interest held through stake in SKY Network Television

[edit] Satellite television

British Sky Broadcasting, United Kingdom & Ireland (39.1% holding). In practice, a controlling interest.
SKY Network TV, New Zealand (44%)
SKY Italy, Italian satellite TV service
SKY México, Latin American satellite TV service
SKY Brasil, Brazilian satellite TV servive
SKY Germany (49.90%), Germany’s largest pay TV provider
SKY Tata (20%), an Indian DTH HDTV service (in partnership with Tata Group)
Foxtel (25%), Australia, a joint venture with Telstra (50%) and Consolidated Media Holdings (25%)
FOX Italy, Italian Broadcast and Production Company (with 2 HDTV)
STAR TV, an Asian satellite TV service having 300 million viewers in 53 countries (it acquired STAR Vijay and Asianet, (two prominent south Indian networks)
Phoenix Television (17.6%), satellite TV network with landing rights in Hong Kong, and select provinces on Mainland China.

[edit] Cable

Cable TV channels owned (in whole or part) and operated by News Corporation include:

Fox Business Network, a business news channel.
Fox Classics, a channel airing classic TV shows & movies
Fox Movie Channel, an all-movie channel that airs commercial-free movies from 20th Century Fox’s film library
Fox News Channel, a 24-hour news & opinion channel
Fox Sports Net, a chain of US regional cable news television networks broadcasting local sporting events linked together by national sports news programming. Local channels include “Fox Sports Southwest”, “Fox Sports Detroit”, etc. (some affiliates are owned by Cablevision).
SportSouth, a regional sports network in the United States, with its headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia, and affiliate of Fox Sports Net.
Sun Sports a regional sports network in the United States, with its headquarters in Miami, Florida, and affiliate of Fox Sports Net.
Fox College Sports, a college sports network consisting of three regionally aligned channels, mostly with archived Fox Sports Net programs but also some live and original content.
Fox Sports International
Fox Soccer Channel, a United States digital cable and satellite network specializing mainly in soccer.
Fox Soccer Plus, a sister network to FSC, but including coverage of other sports, most notably rugby union. Launched in 2010 after News Corporation picked up many of the broadcast rights abandoned by Setanta Sports when it stopped broadcasting in the U.S.
Fox Sports Middle East – English language sports network airing in Middle East countries including Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, UAE & Yemen.
Fox Pan American Sports (37.9%) – joint venture with Hicks, Muse, and Tate & Furst.
Fox Sports en Español (50%), a Spanish-language North American cable sports network; its sports lineup is tailored to appeal to a Latin American audience.
Fox Sports en Latinoamérica, a Mexico-based Latin American satellite and cable sports network.
FX Networks, a cable network broadcasting reruns of programming previously shown on other channels, but recently creating its own programming, including the Emmy Award-winning programs The Shield and Damages.
Speed Channel
FUEL TV
Big Ten Network, cable and satellite channel dedicated to The Big Ten Conference, launched Aug 2007 (49%)
National Geographic Channel (joint venture with National Geographic Magazine) 67%
National Geographic Channel International 75%
National Geographic Wild (joint venture with National Geographic Magazine)
Fox International Channels, domestic cable channels offering different formats of Fox programming in over thirty countries worldwide.
Fox
Fox Life
Fox Life HD
Fox Crime
FX
Fox Horror
Fox Movies
Fox Sports
Speed Channel
National Geographic Channel
National Geographic Channel HD
National Geographic Wild
National Geographic Adventure
National Geographic Music
National Geographic Junior
Cult
Next:HD
Voyage
Real Estate TV
BabyTV
Fox Toma 1 – Spanish language television production.
Fox Telecolombia – Spanish language television production. (51%)
Utarget.Fox – European and Latin American online ad company, plus now handles TV ad sales.
Middle & South America
Fox Latin American Channels – channels available in over 17 countries in Latin America
National Geographic Channel
National Geographic Channel HD
National Geographic Wild
Nat Geo Music
Universal Channel
Universal HD
Fox Channel
Fox HD
FX
Fox Life
Syfy
Fox Sports
Speed Channel
Baby TV
Utilisima
Fox One-Stop Media – advertising sales for company owned and third party channels in Latin America
LAPTV (60%) (Latin American Pay Television) operates 8 cable movie channels throughout South America excluding Brazil.
Telecine(12.5%) operates 5 cable movie channels in Brazil.
Australia
Premier Media Group (50%)
Fox Sports 1
Fox Sports 2
Fox Sports 3
SPEED
FoxSportsNews
Fuel TV Australia
Premium Movie Partnership (20%) – movie channels, a joint venture between 20th Century Fox, Sony, NBC Universal, Viacom and Liberty Media

PLATFORMS

India
Hathway Cable & Datacom (22.2%), India’s 2nd largest cable network through 7 cities including Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi, Mumbai & Pune
Taiwan
Total TV (20%), Pay TV platform with JV partner KOO’s Group majority owner (80%). News Corp also has a 20% interest in the KOO’s Group directly

[edit] Internet

Fox Interactive Media
Foxsports.com – website with sports news, scores, statistics, video and fantasy sports
Hulu (27%) – online video streaming site in partnership with NBC Universal and The Walt Disney Company.
Flektor – provides Web-based tools for photo and video editing and mashups.
IGN Entertainment – Internet entertainment portal (Includes the sites IGN, GameSpy, TeamXbox, and Askmen.com)
Giga.de
Slingshot Labs – web development incubator (Includes the sites DailyFill).
Strategic Data Corp – interactive advertising company which develops technology to deliver targeted internet advertising.
Scout.com
WhatIfSports.com – sports simulation and prediction website. Also provides fantasy-style sports games to play.
Indya.com – ‘India’s no. 1 Entertainment Portal’
ROO Group Inc (5% increasing to 10% with performance targets)
News Digital Media
News.com.au – Australian-oriented news website
News Lab
CareerOne.com.au (50%) – recruitment advertisement website in partnership with Monster Worldwide.
Carsguide.com.au
in2mobi.com.au
TrueLocal.com.au
Moshtix.com.au – a ticket retailer
Learning Seat
Wego News owns minority stake in Wego.com
Netus (75%) – investment co. in online properties.
REA Group (60.7%)
Realestate.com.au
Casa.it (69.4%), Sky Italia also holds a 30.6% share
atHome group, operator of leading realestate websites in Luxembourg, France, Belgium and Germany.
Altowin (51%),provider of office management tools for realestate agents in Belgium.
Propertyfinder.com (50%), News International holds the remaining 50%
Sherlock Publications, owner of hotproperty.co.uk portal and magazine titles ‘Hot Property’, ‘Renting’ and ‘Overseas’
ukpropertyshop.co.uk, most comprehensive UK estate agent directory.
PropertyLook, property websites in Australia and New Zealand.
HomeSite.com.au, home renovation and improvement website.
Square Foot Limited, Hong Kong’s largest English Language property magazine and website
Primedia – Holding co. of Inside DB, a Hong Kong lifestyle magazine.
TadpoleNet Media (10%) Hosts of ArmySailor.com
New Zealand
DVD Unlimited – leading online DVD subscription service (ownership through stake in Sky Network Television).
Fox Networks – one of the largest international ad networks.
Expedient InfoMedia blog network.

[edit] Other assets

NDS – Conditional access technology and personal digital video recorders (PVRs) (49%)
Jungo
Timothy Coville
ITE, publisher of PlayStation and Mobile games, and interactive television
Broadsystem Ltd (UK) – Telephony provider for media companies, bought in 1991
Broadsystem Australia (Australia)
Broadsystem Ventures (UK) – provider of cheap-rate telephone calls, particularly for customers of Sky Television. Bought outright in 1999.
Jamba! – Mobile Entertainment/Mobile Handsets Personalisation/Games.
News Outdoor Group – Largest outdoor advertising company in Eastern Europe with over 70,000 ads including billboards and bus shelters, operating in Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, India, Israel, Poland, Romania, Russia (96 cities), Turkey & Ukraine.
Maximedia Israel (67%)
Mosgorreklama (50%) – Russia sign and marketing material manufacturer
Kamera Acikhava Reklamclik (?) – leading outdoor advertising company in Turkey
Australian Associated Press (45%) – real time news service.
Stats Inc (50%) – worlds leading provider of sporting information and statistical analysis (a JV with Associated Press)
Fox Sports Grill (50%) – Upscale sports bar and restaurant with 7 locations – Scottsdale, Arizona; Irvine, California; Seattle, Washington; Plano, Texas; Houston, Texas; San Diego, California; and Atlanta, Georgia.
Fox Sports Skybox (70%) – Sports fan’s Bar & Grill at Staples Center and 6 airport restaurants.
News America Marketing (US) – (100%) – nation’s leading marketing services company, products include a portfolio of in-store, home-delivered and online media under the SmartSource brand.
Rotana (9%) – Largest Arab entertainment company owned by Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal
The Daily – iPad only newspaper delivered daily.
Making Fun – social game developer for making games for social networking sites, smartphones, tablets and other devices.[33]

If this all carries on and it moves onto a general Murdoch hate campaign whats the chances of a total failure or very damaging impact to News Corp/ ala BP and the whole oil leak thing?

Mass share price drop or something?

Im dreaming that Murdoch has some bad times ahead.

Resolution successful. Got a nice email back and an apology from Mark there. Basically it sounds like they are trying to resolve their issues and are a small company and are suffering from their success. I made him aware of their bad press and coverage here. Sounds like they are making changes to system etc to imtprove things anyway.

Order cancelled and refunded through paypal. I’m off to a LBS tomorrow to pickup a discounted recon and a valuable lesson learned.

The phone is constantly engaged. Can you cancel a transaction through paypal?

We had one when we I was a kid. She was like an old duchess. Just sat there looking down her nose at everyone. She also stunk like an old carpet.

When she was a pup she was very naughty, chewing, shredding stealing socks etc – no more than my Springer is now though and he’s 9 with titanium rods in his spine.

I ordered a Giro hex from them last night showing up as dispatching today. So ive gone on to have a look at my order now after reading this thread and it appears that they are awaiting stock.

The only reason I ordered from them was that it showed in stock and ready to be dispatched.

Rule 27:

Sock and short length should be like Golidlocks, not too long and not too short. (Disclaimer: despite Sean Yates’ horrible choice in shorts length, he is a quintessential hard man of cycling and is deeply admired by the Velominati. Whereas Armstrong’s short and sock lengths are just plain wrong.) No socks is a no-no, as are those ankle-length ones that should only be worn by female tennis players.

Anyone got a reliable stream? +1

what you doing with the planet x?

Thanks for the advice sure sounds like I need a M. Now to find one.

my daughter is 6 months and we have trouble with her fitting 3-6 months clothing as she is still just tiny.

people bough 3-6 months clothes when she was born and most are still in packets.

So quite the opposite of everyone here.

Im in Northumberland and wont be passing anytime soon with the chance of a 2nd hand frame. If anyone has one in North East would you mind if I swing my leg over yours (sounds dodgy eh)

The Police will do wonders with it.

No they wont, you will get a crime reference number and a nice letter from victim support and that’s your whack.

anymore?

Indeed and here’s a tip, when you have the overlap wind the tape on 4 or 5 wraps, then test that the bar plug fits neatly and snugly in the bar.

There is nothing worse than wrapping the whole of one side to find that you didn’t have enough overlap at the beginning.

I’ve done this and made an arse of it. Also gap round the hoods. A general dogs dinner.

Since commuting for the last few months Ive started to follow two golden rules,

First – always obey the rules of the road, if for example someone does the nice thing like wave you through when you dont have the right to then dont do it – by the time you both hesitate there is carnage and it brings other motorists into the situation who dont know whats going on.

Second – never assume someone has seen you. Always be more alert than those around you, cover your brakes especially with cars approaching side roads to you – sit up and be seen – even stand up on pedals to make yourself seen in certain situations.

Thats shit for Ollie.

Been onto Steels, Bike Place etc etc get them to display some pictures in the shop.

He knew their age yet pursued them and knew what he was doing – IMO a potentially dangerous and disturbed lad. Lose his job? Well maybe they have a position of responsibility in the public limelight so yes.

Unfortunately they are a massive company who claim C2W is too expensive to implement and they already offer excellent incentives – see the cyclelife discount above – cough cough.

Also our payroll is all outsourced to Accenture.

I was thinking the company could setup something with Evans for expample like 20% discount over £500 and you get a 12month loan – akin to the season ticket travel purchase scheme taken from salary.

Whats the in house ride 2 work. My employer doesnt do anything (except offer a 10% Raleigh/cyclelife discount) and im trying to come up with some ideas how they can offer something to the employees.

Well isnt she on statutory pay now which I think is funded by the government. The company claim it back from whoever – probably HRMC i would imagine.

I think the company are wrong here.

Any planet x pro sl going second hand. In 5’10 and I have a 55.5 giant at the mo, the specs make it look like I am in between m and l according to top tube length.

Tfo explain. Am I worrying too much about the carbon frame do you think?

Well mainly not carbon due to leaving the bike on a train 2 or 3 times per week. I regullary find a few bikes plonked on mine as I get on first and off last. Would hate a dent in the top tube for example.

planet x superlight team

ooo i had never seen that – i kept getting drawn to the PRO SL carbon whenever I was there.

That is only 300 inc the carbon fork too which is good.

Did the Northern Rock Cyclone yesterday and noticed an awful lot of folk were riding Cervelos so i took a look online when I got home – holy crap they are expensive.

They were like Orange Fives of the road world (i have a five so i can say that)

Some of the beeb coverage better improve. Bloody Chimpunk I hate that p###k!

These vaccines are fairly lame too – hopefully it will get better later.

I want to chill for a weekend in a tent with Ferne Cotton thats for sure – mud or not im not bothered…

I don’t know nuffink about sailing, but I’d imagine the UK sailing community were involved in choosing a location, and Poole was the best option.

Well i know loads about it and 90% of the major events in this county go there or in that region. Its always the same.

To do a major champs we regularly had to tow down from the NE, in some instances fortnightly. When holding a Europeans in the NE we struggled to attract 20 boats. But this is getting onto a different theme.

What im trying to say is that TeamGBR sailing wouldnt have even contemplated going elsewhere.