As I said, that’s the goal….the endpoint. Not what is relevant in achieving that outcome using EBM methodology.

It was a semantics question that had no place in the exam.

Not to mention there were then more mistakes in the exam, that were quite clearly mistakes not semantics.

Question is probably designed to see if you focus on the patient or the science.

You can’t give patients the best choice or possible care without knowing what actually does offer them that in the first place.

Evidence based medicine is important in improving patient care. “Aspect” implies what is important in achieving this goal (good patient care is the goal not the underlying important processes).

The whole point of evidence based medicine is to improve patient care. What’s the point in gathering data if you dont use it to improve patient care?

The question wasn’t why is evidence based medicine important. It was, whats the most important aspect of evidence based medicine?

Now you can give your patient all of the best fluffy wuffy wuv holistic healthcare in the world but it won’t be evidence based if it doesn’t have good data to support it. This was a question designed with no other intention than to catch people out.

You seem to have a somewhat unrealistic view of how healthcare actually works, and when you get out of university and into the real world, I suspect you will be even more outraged.

Tee Hee.

It’s also the fact that I’m directly paying for a service out of my own choice….I’m a customer here. But hey whatever…. you guys would be annoyed if you had paid for a bike and it came with a giant dent in it.

didn’t understand 6 of them

I can tell you that was definitely not the case. The lecturers English, is errrr not exactly very good.

If she was actually a nurse or doctor though, this would amount to misconduct. As she’s a lecturer who’s employed for research and has to teach to fulfill her requirements, she’ll get away with being a lazy asshole.

Seriously, I’m starting to really **** hate people.

Idiots everywhere.

I quite liked TJ, he seemed to be a thinking mans troll.

I’m going to hedge a bet that there is no randomness in quantum physics, that the universe cycles between a big bang and a big cruch and that the current hilarity we are all experience will happen over and over and over and over again for the rest of eternity.

Which means you’ll come back in bazzilions of years and you won’t know it…..and you’ll be doomed to repeating the same life again.

Just think….we’ll get to experience TJ threads all over again.

One of my mates at 6th form did the same, didn’t get the shock of seeing him dead though.

You’ll pull through but things are going to be shit for a while, I’d suggest you spend some time with your family if you can. Or go riding.

Apply for mitigating circumstances to put your uni deadlines back and retake your exams in the summer because it WILL effect your grades.

No, I’ve tried a few 29ers nothing tempts me…..the only one that might appeal is the 29er evo but even some of the positive reviews have mentioned the riders are going back to their more playful 26 inch bikes.

I’m going with the Norco mostly because I needed a new frame and I’m hedging my bets that 650b will slowly become the “playful” wheel to have. My 150/160mm travel bike needs to be able to do everything including dirt jumps, I don’t fancy the idea of DJing on a 29er. Hopefully the wheel size wont turn out like straight 1.5 steerers.

Heart is definitely set on the Norco.

Puuuurdy.

I’ll put up the list in the sale section next week when I’m back with my bike.

Unless you’ve got inside info, we won’t know whether they’ve gone for 29″ or 27″ wheels

Those photos are from 2009.

Intense are supplying 650b downhill bikes for the worlds.

1) Coed-y-Brenin (because it’s old school, or at least was….it’s still good but they’ve basterdized the place compared to 15 years go when I was riding it as a child)
2) Afan
3) Cannock
4) Lllandegla
5) FOD

To be fair a good old fashioned beating would have made this story more entertaining though.

Just be warned if you get caught with it or hand it in to the police you’ll probably end up being a registered sex offender.

I once met what I think was the Welsh version of the IRA at some do for a local prince guy that was slain by the English.

Anyhow, they were wearng DPM camo and black berets….

I almost died laughing

Surely it’s common sense to follow the rules in question? Planning permission has to be granted, come on we really can’t have a free-for-all now can we?

It’s nothing to do with the design surely?

http://www.audacity.org/JH-15-04-08.htm

Ahh….the gaping chasm between what we think we do and the reality of what we actually do.
Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Heh, my brother was almost at that level – whilst I definitely never have been. (although obviously not on a race track as this guy is an elite) Imagine having to put up with that.

Planning permission needs to be hugely watered down anyway, thanks to rural nimby’s we don’t have enough houses being built to replace loss let alone enough to cope with a rising population.

As others have said, they won’t stop making parts. I just reckon wheels will go up in price and you’ll lose a bit of choice when it comes to components and certainly framesets.

Eg I can’t see Fox and Rockshocks producing 26 inch and 650b 160mm forks. The 26inch Lyrik will go as will the current 36 unless they make trade off(in terms of offset) dual use forks like X-fusion.

This week i’ll be mostly be watching bikes on dry trails
Remember those?

:cry:

Want to ride, getting moody because of the weather now. You reckon Chicksands will be ok next week?

Depends what kind of riding you do and whether you like a playful bike or a stable barge.

Basically if you like hitting dirt jumps, jumpy tight trails, really tight steep stuff, or anything that warrants a full blown DH bike go with a 26er.

If you do a lot of piling through rock gardens on wider trails/less bermy/switchbacky ones (eg peaks) and your uncomfortable hitting them at speed on a 26er, then get a 29er. Especially if you prefer to hug the ground as they are more stable.

Don’t let the “29ovah witnesses” tell you they are great at everything, both have their time and place.

he’d be smoother and quicker on a 29er, wouldn’t have to keep doing little jumps to clear stuff that his ikkle wheels would get hung up on

:mrgreen:

Ooof Pramac Ducati in 4th and Lorenzo in front by a second.

Strange thins happen in the wet!

Racism is based on ethnicity and ancestry, Xenophobia is based on culture.

Yes you can be racist towards the Welsh.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18489735

Just because they’re not black/mocha/whatever doesn’t mean to say they aren’t technically an ethnic minority (Ie genetically distinct, speak a different language etc).

It’s because she’s a mother, had she been a bloke she would have gone down.

Can the Police charge you over animal porn?? Surely not

Yup. Time to remove your hard-drive and get yourself a mapp gas blow torch.

I dont think this will ever happen and if it does it will take ages[decade minimum].
For example you can still buy non disc brakes if you want them and the wheels though not necessarily the makes you want and that is because no one who really MTB’s wants non disc [ ok there are some but they stop due to lack of demand not just their desire to stop – basically if they can make money they will sell it.]

You’re right, parts won’t suddenly disappear but I think the increased costs of manufacturing even more genres of bikes/sizes is going to drive costs up.

I’m going to quit flogging the dead horse now.

Kona Operator £2400
-Specialized Status £2500
-Nukeproof Scalp £2200
-Scott Gambler £2600
-Norco Aurum £2100
-GT Fury £2300
-Canyon Torque £1700

Not top 10 competitive which is the level my brother used to race at, although eventually the costs were lowered by sponsorship. Expensive light builds make even more of a difference with smaller/lighter youngsters as well.

The costs are becoming prohibitive towards youngsters who aren’t from really privileged backgrounds – the issue isn’t entirely the cost of the initial purchase of the bikes – you’re lucky to make a frame last two seasons at that level. It’s more that when you come to replace your frame, forks and wheels because the competitive frames have all gone 650b the replacement costs are going to be nuts.

I just think it’s typifies what the sports become, lots of people willing to splash out a lot of money for very little differences – like with road cycling where you can buy road bikes that cost 10k etc. Where the **** is there 10k of technology in a road bike? The cost just reflects idiot rich folk who drive the costs of the sport up by paying ever more ridiculous amounts of money for status symbols.

650B I feel, falls into that category of superfluous crap designed to be sold to idiots with more money than sense.

“I didn’t notice any differences, apart from this (positive) difference.”

Note the words “maybe”, considering Brendan is payed by Scott to say great things about 650b it isn’t exactly a glowing endorsement is it?

29ers can clean steep loose and technical climbs quicker and even clean stuff that 26 can’t.

Ride harder.

26″ is gone. All DH bikes will be 650b in a year or so. All the proto’s doing the rounds are all 650b. The 29″ to 650b cross over will be 160mm. It’ll be interesting to see how Curtis does on the 29″ Enduro. People who have ridden it say its total monster.

650B is just pure marketing to sell more frames, forks and wheels. No timed run decreases wider rims and lower pressures could have got you. Enjoy spending another 3/4 thousand pounds on setups that you can’t swap major parts over, I could deal with 1.5/tapered headsets but this really is taking MTBing away from it’s roots. When I was visiting the DH race scene to watch my younger brother race and to ride with him, a good competitive bike would set a privateer back maybe 2.5 grand? All those parts could be swapped over from 1 season to the next – now a competitive bike costs 4 grand at the bottom range all the way up to 8000. The sports becoming ridiculous, it was the poor mans MX/Enduro before. HAH!

Honest to god, I would love to see British Cycling ban them like the Germans have done for nationals (I think).

Anthem 29, best bike I’ve ever ridden.

The one I rode was horribly flexy, but yeah….big wheels make people feel safer so I guess it might work for you.

Here’s Brendog on the matter of 650b.

I don’t even notice the difference, apart from it rolls a bit better maybe.

And on that bombshell, I conclude my feelings on this matter.

On the subject of crossers, would you go 2 or 4 stroke

At least if you owned a two stroke you could keep it for spare parts. Eg wheels, forks, brakes etc when you invariably bend your chassis and destroy your engine racing.

Would you really do that? Could you not try and have fun on a big wheeler? I’ve never ridden one but i think if I did, i could have fun on it.

Okay, spend AT LEAST 3k to get a 29 bike to the current spec of my
Mega, then spend another grand on a 29er hardtail. Mountain biking is expensive but the nice thing was that before you could upgrade part by part.

Based on that I’m already 4/7ths of the way to buying a KTM 6 days 450. Might as well go the last 3 grand.

Whatever :twisted:

The 29er Conundrum: Revolution or Acquired Taste?

People are going back! :mrgreen:

Another facet of the ‘niner buzz that frustrates us is the broad generalizing about the bikes with little quantitative basis. Commentary after promo commentary hints that the bigger tires make riding over obstacles easier, forward momentum stronger and ride stability greater. While those may be observationally true, we have yet to see any scientific substantiation.

In that vein, we were intrigued to see the 29er versus 26er shootout in the most recent (No. 23) issue of Mountain Flyer magazine by racer Michael McCalla, who compared similarly set up bikes over a variety of terrains for time and power output (wattage).

McCalla’s startling conclusion: No quantifiable difference between the two. Interestingly, McCalla experienced the same feedback that 29er evangelists promote regarding ride feel. But none of it translated into any actual ride advantage.

BOOM! That’s my problem with them, there’s no scientific evidence to back up any of the claims being made other than half baked anecdotes that probably amount to the placebo effect.

No. The advantage of big wheels is that they don’t fall so far into a hole. On the road (hopefully) there are no holes, so wheel size doesn’t matter.

So when everyone goes 29 braking bumps will just get bigger negating some of the usefulness?

As if an extra 3 inches circumference is going to stop your wheel falling into lots of holes.

My friend was telling me that she saw mums with pushchairs on some new singletrack.
Also, an update to say that a phone call was not received from Crown Estate. Civil servants eh.

Hitting walkers doesn’t actually hurt very much.

They tend to take most of the energy from the impact. :lol: I haz experience in this matter.

Yeah but I’m suspicious the manufactures are going to stop making 26inch parts – or jack them up massively in cost thanks to 29.

Nowhere, the old model used to be cheaper but 300 more isn’t exactly a huge push and he’ll get supposedly one of the best all round hardtails on the market. The older one got rave reviews and the new 650b one got a rave review on a Swedish website, shame they’ve jacked them up in price compared to the previous year though.

Tell him to save a couple of months more and put a larger deposit down.

If not go with the Anthem but I’d actually prefer the Zen for going downhill, better geometry (much slacker) etc. Plus hardtails are fun as ****! Then because 650b may (emphasis on MAY) be futureproof…. when he’s a better rider he can get a nice bouncey 650b frame in 3 years time and swap lots of his components over (eg wheels).

I definitely don’t think 29ers will be the all that is on offer in the future:

* They don’t suit smaller riders

* They don’t suit long travel applications especially when that rider is less than 6 foot tall.

* They’re still losing XC events to 26 and 650b.

They’ll have to keep lots of 26 frames available for youngsters, short people, women and long travel applications. Privateers will also want 26 inch frames so whoever still makes them will make a small fortune.

This will increase the costs of production of frames, wheels and forks and will see to it that we pay even more for MTB’s.