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I think Singletrack did one, 2 bikes painted the same. Can’t remember the issue
Many thanks. Interesting and bears out much of what I have experienced. I think this sentence is key…
so the more observant ones would notice speed differences. In the end, we sort of determined that when riders didn’t know what they ‘should’ feel, they really struggled to find differences in stiffness, compliance and weight between frames or wheels.
I think we have all had guys turn up to club rides on knackers yard bikes and smoke the lot of us. Its essentially the same thing at one extreme and at the other, pros are quick on any bike. Its the same with weight, within reason i.e. a few pounds, you will perform the same on a bike weighing 15lbs as on weighing 20lbs IF the geometry is the same. As well as size etc referenced in the article, humans seem to be trained to think lighterweight = better performance, and this is not necessarily true.
I argue (badly) that if you learnt to ride fast on a rigid mtb, you will have far more subtle and quicker reactions to terrain than if you learned to ride fast on a full susser. In the former, I reckon you can feel frame types as you naturally look for the traits of the frame to get you along the trail. A full susser has far greater error tolerances and so you subconsciously learn to be crashier in your style. Once you are, riding any rigid bike will feel the same.
A long time back, ‘scandium’ was the allow of choice for lightweight race bikes. I ordered one from Italy and it tok an age to arrive, so much that the only bike I had to race with was an old Delgado period Pinarello, it weighed loads by even then standards. I raced it for a few months, I got the same average results (top 10), the only issue I had was down tube shifters on descents/getting caught on turns/ascents etc. Some riders are clumsy, some are subtle, some are grinders, some spin, each will look or not giver a damn about their frame type/weight.