But aren’t haribos white carbs? F’rexample, over a 4hr ride I can get my 30g/hr of carbs from 2l of sports drink, or 2.5 bananas, or 1.5 Clif bars, or a handful of dried apricots (etc etc…).

On this diet, only the sports drink is allowed?

What I’m asking, I suppose, is what do you use?

Sorry if this has been asked, but what are you supposed to eat on, say, a 4hr training run?

as an extreme example, this is from a recent training run (I use ridewithgps.com which uses google mapping)

Using the elevation data from your GPS, your trip has +2351 / -2334 meters gain/loss. Our elevation data shows this route has +59260 / 59261 meters gain / loss. If you feel our elevations might be more accurate…

Usually it’s out by a factor of x2, but longer rides more so.

I can’t remember if I’ve ever done 2700m in only 50km, but if it’s accurate it will be a killer.

EDIT: according to garminconnect, I did 2800m in 70km last summer, took 7hrs not including an overnight bivvy.

and cider?

That’s big but how accurate is the mapping? My GPS (barometric) and the mapping websites I use disagree on altitude gained, with the websites overestimating by double or more.

It won’t break in. I bought one when they came out, first ride on it was 200km and it was faultless, I was using Flites before that. But as said, must be used with a good pad, and the nose is very unforgiving if you like to sit on the front to get over the BB. Getting the angle right is perhaps the key… I do 300-400km a week on mine and don’t notice it, but others hate them.

There’s no hard n fast formula for the cats – my local climb is Cat 1 and is neither 6 miles nor 3,000 feet (Mt Jaizkibel, appears in the Clasica de San Sebastian).

edit:

Tour of the Basque COuntry. Nice to see the pros suffering on your local roads :twisted:

ehhhhh??? This is too weird… the “Film scenes you can remember as a kid…” thread got me thinking about a program I used to watch with something called The Vortex (scary) but I couldn’t remember the name of the show. Found the answer on google and then suddenly this thread appears.

Uh oh… my Marcelo’s a bit tatty (Baci paint) after a couple of crashes, car travel and a bit of chainsuck. Seed planted :-)
I won’t be so crass as to ask how much it’s costing you, but I guess Dario’s not the most economical of options. I saw Roger’s Responsorium in the ‘f*** you’ paintjob – looked like the end result of feeding a child too many fizzy sweets. But in a good way. Maybe at the end of the season I’ll send it off.

Anyway, I digress… good luck with the paint!

Nice. *Two* Pegos? Got any links to pics of them? I got a marcelo frame from Mosquito a couple of years back.

Yep, sorry my bad, indeed should be .img (wrote the reply from memory)

I’ll have another look at the ICC site and see if there’s anything useful.

I use http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/descargas.html for OSM topo maps, likely the same maps as the above link though. Download “Topographic Peninsular Spain” from the “copy on GPS Navigator” comlumn, rename the finished download as gmapsupp.iso then copy into the /Garmin folder on the device (backup your original first). I get some topo info from this, contour lines and some footpaths etc, but it’s pathetic compared to the OS. That’s about as good as you get for Spain though, Catalunya seems to have better stuff available from a cursory look at the ICC page.

I had the same frame but slightly newer, with a slightly more garish 70s fairground waltzer paintjob. Gave it to my dad when I moved, he still uses it…

4mm cog OK on my pro 2, no marking.
Watch the chain tension isn’t too tight, that will kill it.

Doug, you almost met me coming the other way! Got a bit of a virus, so couldn’t face 100km on the road, thought I’d work on the old skilz on Ulia instead. In the end, spent the afternoon flat out on the sofa looking at blue skies :-(
Probably better in the long run, although doesn’t feel like it looking at those photos!

My students aren’t native speakers but I’d suggest they used a non-defining relative clause, i.e.

…so that we, the children, will be educated. (not ‘us’)
…they, the people of Libya, feel that… (and not ‘them’)
…and he, the villain in all this, gets away scot-free (and not ‘him’)

though this structure might be a bit formal.

Interestingly, “us children will be educated” means “our children” up in my neck of the (back)woods.

I was.

Yaroo!

The fact that the animated version has Dennis with a southern accent has never sat well with me. I imagined him to be a Geordie.

help me out bob, what have I missed?!?

Fast forward to about 3:30 :-)

Here is CH the most challenging/demoralizing person to chase is one on an electric bike (Bloody thousands of them in Basel).

hmmm… Swiss riders on electric bikes? Sound familiar? :wink:

If they slip down, try growing some quads and then shaving them :twisted:

Michael Caine and Graham Gooch are my uncles. Or, their namesakes are at least.

Came home once to find Dick Lucas (Subhumans, Culture Shock…) washing his feet in my sink.

I’m not in Spain :wink:

nice work.

log splitting’s a national sport here…

gets through that in 33 whacks if my Basque numbers don’t fail me…

the decathlons here (spain) are knocking out a cheap steel SS commuter, in bright orange. about 80€ IIRC. they look alright as lock-n-leave bikes, and a bit like dialled love/hates if you squint ;-)

With respect to the OP, I’m vegan in país vasco, meat eating capital of Spain?
Never had it so good, three veggie restaurants in town, one vegan. Herboristerías on every street selling veggie junk food if that’s your bag. I struggle for stuff like curry spices but can pick them up when I’m in France or get a mate to post them from Barcelona. My experience of omni restaurants has been very good too, they seem more willing to help you out than their UK counterparts. For example I went to a wedding couple of weeks ago and with no warning the caterers knocked up five courses for me despite having 300 guests to feed. I don’t think you will have any problems.

thinking of giving mine away. prob is it’s in spain, unreg’d and broken :(

Plumber – I’ve got a ’90 LP custom with, coincidentally, a Calvin & Hobbes sticker exactly where yours is. Well, no Calvin, just HObbes. Weird?!

edit: found a picture. ahh, the days of having a motorbike in’t kitchen.
Not me in the pic btw, probably a result of the homebrew in the background.

hard to tell with the resolution of my telly, but seems like it’s crossing over into football, rugby…

epilating is the best way, only hurts the first time.

Yeah, maybe down a more specialised avenue, but I won’t be teaching moody teens that’s for sure. That said, a colleague’s just retired at 60 after coming here in his 20s, another retiring this year at 55…. maybe it’s worth sticking out :wink:

I’m doing the same. Put my roots down in the Basque Country, no intention to move on. Working for an academy, which has pros and cons (as hinted above, working for yourself is the way forward; at the very least, a bit of moonlighting is necessary). I’m giving morning/lunchtime classes in local businesses, evening classes to 12-18yo’s. Try to avoid teaching the wee ones if I can.

Pros: part time hours. Cycling “windows” in almost every day.
Cons: part time hours. My state contributions count less towards the dole, pensions etc.
I get July or August off, paid, and between 2-3 weeks at Xmas, Easter, but this is my third year – last year I ‘had to’ go on the dole for 2 months in summer (which is sweet compared to doing it in the UK).

T’only thing is, I’m 37 this year and can’t really see myself doing this job in 10 years.

we get gryphon (sp?) vultures here that don’t necessarily wait for the sheep to be carrion before eating it. not long back i found remains of a couple of sheep spread out over the trail (no way a dog could’ve got them over the fence from their field) and it looked like a bomb had gone off.

at least it’s relatively natural… far worse goes on in the abattoir.

curious how people get uppity about the mispronunciation of a foreign word like ‘espresso’, but if you pronounce a foreign placename authentically (pa-ree? milano?) you’re a pretentious twunt.

;-)

computer says noooooo :(

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just in time with a bit of politics…
bit faded, an old pro-ETA mural in Asteasu, Basque Country. Translates as something like “Fight & Build Freedom”.
I’ve seen ‘better’ but don’t really like taking photos of stuff like this :|

more steel – pegoretti marcelo (columbus spirit), 2 years old with chorus 11. winter trainer and racebike.
i don’t usually run those butt-ugly wheels, got a nice pair of handbuilts with the right number of spokes ;-)

i think it works well. don’t think there are any rules nowadays, i grew up watching skate videos and their obligatory thrash or punk soundtrack, but with brian jonestown massacre on earthed (was it? can’t remember) and danny macaskill using band of horses….

according to wikipedia, SS is wetter than even barrow in furness (more than double the rainfall in jan). good job i didn’t come here for the weather :cry:

“wide eyed legless”

interesting about the weather. san sebastian is wetter than manchester, but we have fewer rainy days. and if we get a south wind, then it’s 16 or 18 degrees in january (was sunbathing on the beach last feb).

but on the flipside, bad weather off the atlantic can get stuck here for weeks as it can’t get over the mountains.

Total Routes Mapped: 11, totalling 766.5 km
Total Elevation Gain: 11,655 meters
Total Time on Bike: 1 day, 10 hours, 34 minutes

:(

f’rexample (training ride today uploaded from edge 705):

bigjohn, i think your system’s out – i had a banana but the flapjack stayed in the jersey pocket :wink: