That isn’t what I said.

Say you’re quite well off. That in itself is a position of privilege, is it not? Not just because you can afford nice things, but because you don’t have to worry about stuff like affording your rent or having to choose between paying for food or electricity today. Moreover, it might not even occur to you that this might be a problem for some people.

Should you feel guilty about this? Of course not. You’ve worked hard to get where you are, after all. And you’ve got your own problems, your wife is ill and you’re worried about whether brexit is going to mean you have to close some of your businesses. But you can choose whether to use some of your affluence to help out charities, maybe give a couple of quid to the bloke with a dog on a string outside ASDA, or whether to just be self-absorbed and not see past the end of your yacht. And if a little guilt helps you along into being a better person there, I’m not really seeing the problem with that.

Or perhaps “guilt” is the wrong word. Humility perhaps? Empathy?

Actually we are getting somewhere now !!! I would agree we are afforded privilege in some areas of life. There is no doubt about that.

What I am doubting is its relevance to the issues that some people face. In fact its not helpful its actually alienating people who would otherwise be compassionate about the issue.

Its of no relevance if I am scared or not to go and fill my car up with petrol. What is relevant is why someone else (who ever they are) is. Male privilege is just not relevant.

Its about an awful lot more than that tho

Is it? well lets have something that describes it better than “Male Privilege” then?

If you don’t like the term privilege then fine, but in five pages and counting I don’t recall seeing anyone offering an alternative suggestion.

Issues that affect women’s feeling of safety and well being.

How about that for a start?

I don’t think the term “privilege” is intended to make anyone feel guilty. But if it does make you feel guilty, well, perhaps that’s not such a bad thing.

Excellent, so men don’t need to feel guilty about the term? So that means its not their fault then?

I am glad we have cleared that up, but I guess we now need to find out who’s fault it is now then?

So the concept is accepted, but the label isn’t? Interesting. Couple of questions; why is the label so disagreeable to you, and what would you call the issue in question?

Because it misses the point as it is designed to lay guilt on men, if you don’t realise that you have been fooled. The very fact we are having this conversation proves it.

When I say it misses the point I mean it should not about what men have or what men can do. We she be focusing in the issues that face women and sorting them out. Even if some of those issues affect men too. It should have nothing to do with what one gender has or can or can’t do. We should focus on the issues that are the problem and resolving them.

As for men not understanding or being aware of how some women feel about certain situations is laughable. Of course we do, most of us don’t live in an all male boarding school do we.

I think what people are arguing is the incorrect use of the term “male privilege”

There are situations where being a woman definitely puts them at more risk. This is not however male privilege.

There are situations were being a man definitely puts them more at risk. This is not female privilege.

There are advantages and disadvantages that come along with being either gender.

We all need to work on making life as equitable for each other regardless of gender, race or sexual persuasion. Its not a man thing or a woman thing its human thing.

We’re not debating the fact that women are vulnerable. We’re debating that men are oblivious to how it affects their lives every day.

No we are not, we just don’t think its male privilege, rather its issues that affect women. It does not mean we don’t care, Just that we object to an incendiary label to describe it.

Everyone is privileged over some others in one way or another. The word has nothing to do with people who don’t have that privilege understanding they have that privilege. Its not what privilege means,I think sometimes people should consult the Oxford English dictionary.

I think the problem is calling it male privilege, rather than issues faced by women.

Everyone has issues they face some are gender specific and some are faced by both genders.

Tree frogs don’t face issues with house prices making it hard for first time buyers, but that’s not tree frog privilege is it. It a problem people face with house prices.

Women having to suffer men exposing themselves to them, is not male privilege its a nasty individual exposing him self.

Same as a woman making it difficult for a man to see his kids its not female privilege its a woman using a child to get at a guy.

These are just problems people face and if people of both genders stopped acting like arseholes the world would be a better place.

Its actually quite insulting to normal women assuming that are all scared to do anything.

Statistics would say that as a man you would in more danger of being assaulted than a woman.

Maybe its a perceived risk rather than a real one.

@flange Yes I will let you know, I have learnt so much riding the little bike. I was on an RSV4 before and its all a bit serious. Also I now know how a really sorted bike feels like on track and the confidence it gives. I said I was going to sell it when the Triumph was ready, but I really like it. I am tempted to leave it out in Almeria so I can pop out when I like 🙂

I am also worried I won’t have as much fun on the Triumph and will regret getting rid of it.

If It do sell it though will give you a shout.

Turns out is does work 🙂

@mrmoofo

What did you not like about the XR, I have one of those as well 🙂

Its not really got a heap of character but its excellent at actually going places and having a blast when you get there 🙂

@flange

That is really interesting I am currently riding a CBR650f Ex European Junior cup bike on track 🙂

I would post some pics, but I don’t think I can link to google hosted pictures here.

Or at least its never worked for me.

A mate of mine went vegan for a month as a bet. He is still vegan two and a half years later 🙂

Zogg Predator but the nose bridges do break. However up until that point they just work.

@flange I am building a sort of track daytona from a Street Triple 765RS. I ran it in on the road and now its in bits in my garage 🙂

I with the race exhaust and mapping I am hoping for 130bhp at the rear and 750cc torque. Should make it a little nicer to ride than a 600.

Fairings turn up tomorrow 🙂 Installed the Down blipper and Power Commander last night.

My mate is a Sat Diver too and its his colleague. My mate makes a small cameo appearance in it 🙂

The other option is to just drive, its a day each way but at the end of the day with bikes its probably easier.

SnowDrone Transfers – Private Airport Transfers

These guys do transfers, or there is actually a bus, though not sure if it runs in the summer.

I do a lot of touring mainly on an S1000XR at the moment, however I really like the idea of a KTM 790 R an doing some touring that takes in some off road sections. I have not been off road on a motorbike though since I was about 12 🙂

I feel for people who have stupid in insurance premiums, I have a Bennets multi bike policy, The 2015 S1000XR, 2013 Tuono and 2015 RSV4 Factory was £350 for all of them.

I was annoyed when they charged me £35 extra when I switched the RSV4 for a Street Triple 765 RS earlier this year.

I Broke mine 12weeks before a trip to Whistler, to say I was gutted was an understatement. I got back on bike at the 10 week point and I was OK. I was on bike in gym after about 3weeks.

I could have ridden before the 10 weeks it was the risk of falling and it breaking again that kept me off.

I would say touch and go 🙁

@FuzzyWuzzy

Got that wrong gloves were £250, and to be fair they are for track use.

@Weeksy, Daytona boots 🙂

I would be interested in testing people

Send them down Bruntingthorpe runway on a bike and they have to chuck them self off the bike at 80mph They have the choice of wearing a £600 Arai RX7 and £0 cash or a £120 HJC and £480 cash in their pocket. Which one do you think most people would choose 🙂

I know what one my head would be in 🙂

@weeksy I agree with that 🙂

Though some high end brands would argue a lot of the time thats a problem with the test. they would argue they don’t test stuff like how well it handles glancing blow and the force transferred to the the neck etc, the shape of the shell can influence this.

My point was though they are not all born equal.

“Assuming you buy from a reputable source rather than some Far Eastern shop on ebay, it’s not possible to buy a “bad” helmet in the UK. Anything sold here has to meet EU safety requirements (for the next couple of months anyway). Paying extra money buys you features: nice paint job, comfier padding, better ventilation and so on. If you’re on a budget, the cheapest pisspot lid will do the job.”

Rubbish !!!

They all don’t have the same sharp test ratings and results.

They just meet a minimum standard.

Of course you can spend far less for motorbike gear all you legally need to ride a bike is a helmet. So you could buy one second hand on Ebay for £20

But generally money spent on bike gear does two things.

a) Protects you in a crash.
b) keeps you dry warm and comfortable.

How much you spend depends on how much of the above you want to have.

I assumed we were talking post test, on a bigger bike that you actually want to go somewhere on.

I agree pootling around on a 125 you are not going to be that far from home.

@kilo

Are you sure £600 will buy you decent kit.

Helmet £200
Boots £150
Gloves £100

You now have £150 for a decent jacket and trousers, thats not going to get you something thats going to keep you very dry or protected.

I have been pretty conservative on the above My Helmet, gloves and boots would be £700, £500 and £250 respectively.

If any new riders are after some decent kit I have a Medium Klim Apex Jacket and a 32″ Klim Badlands pants for sale.

Only selling as I am no longer Medium or 32″ waist 🙂 I have replaced with the same kit in a “different” size.

Its Gortex Pro-shell and has D30 armour etc, probably amongst the most protective textiles you can buy.

I want less than half new price for it and its in great nick. Maybe I should put it in the Classifieds now we have a lot of (moto)bikers on here 🙂

Check the tyres are not flatted off also if they are an older less sporty tire they will make the bike feel a bit slow to turn. A new set of sports or sports touring tyres would probable pep it up a bit.

Also if its got clipon bars (can’t see from pic) move them out a bit to make them wider. Will make it a bit more tiger like 🙂

Like Others have said, the important thing is going and the bike does not really matter. However you have the choice and you have the SV1000 so if you can get it handling as you like then thats got to be good.

Also i know this is like teaching you to suck eggs, but check the tyre pressures on the SV
too.

If the SV1000 is feeling a bit ponderous, what tyres is it running?

Also you could look to raise the fork tubes through the yokes maybe 5mm, should make it a bit more agile. Though try it out as it could make it a little less stable.

I am sure the Aprilia would be fun though (I have a V4 Tuono, so I am a fan) its is a supermoto basically, so is going to be fun around town and in really tight stuff. However is is going to be that much fun on slightly faster roads and the little bit of slog you are going to have to do. I assume its geared like a Supermoto ?

CBT and see if you like it. Its not for everyone.

As people said if you like just do a DAS if you can afford it. That will then open up your choices more. Also will let you hire a half decent bike on holiday etc.

Prepare to get hooked and end up spending all your money on fuel and tyres 🙂

Two up with luggage would make me favour the SV1000, bit more grunt and more importantly two disks up front to stop the weight.

People get quite emotive about the safety of motorcycles.

Reality is, if its a low risk route and the speeds are low then its probably less dangerous then them cycling.

You have a more commanding position on the road and you will get more respect from other road users.

If its a 60mph country road with lots of junctions, then the risk assessment is different.

If you want to learn how to brake, do a trackday 🙂

Donnigton would be particularly good for that. Two big stops in a row Foggy Esses then the Melbourne loop 🙂

Big Anker

I have one of these and it will easily last a weekend/4 days.

You can also charge it from 2 x 2A sockets at the same time so can be charged twice as quick.

Pictures or it didn’t happen @Bianchi-Boy 🙂

Just back from a soggy five day Almeria Euro track trip. The rain in Spain does not just fall on the plain 🙁 While you guys had the best weather for ages.

I think the Norton Dominator is the best looking bike you can buy new at the moment.

Back last night from a weekend riding in Wales, 6deg in Llanberis, thank god for heated clothing 🙂

Great little warmup for Pyrenees trip in May.

“Yes, but as I said, that is a deliberately complex task. I wonder how many people could/did successfully count the passes, gorilla or not”

And this is why your not as safe as you think. The tasks don’t have to be complex at all, they really don’t, there is plenty of evidence and experimentation to show this.

Google task loading, maybe learn something about human cognitive ability that you didn’t know before.