Good answer.

Still think you we’re a bit harsh though 😉

You (and others) need to get past the fact you believe paying additional tax should afford you benefits and privileges above the rest of the nation…it doesn’t!

Sorry but this sort of response really gets my goat. You should be in politics as they spout this sort of nonsense all the time; whilst pilfering from the expenses account of course. I mean no disrespect but really… It’s a perfectly valid point and other than your choice of car (not sure how a clubman counts anyway) I’d love to hear how you make the world better for everyone else, would make for better reading than this sort of inane argument.

I assume you live in a tine house with zero carbon foot print, never fly and give all your spare cash to the needy… 🙄

Just the full suss. For me it’s simple, I want to ride fast. Now of course a HT is fast but it will never allow you (OK me to avoid an argument) to attack a trail like a full suss can, call it skill compensation if you like but knowing your bike will take a hit or two on your behalf is confidence inspiring.

Sounds like you ride some fun trials, take your Five and give your favourite trails some anger and see if it makes you a little more crazy, if it doesn’t you don’t need it.

I wonder how many of them are gay
Why do you wonder that?

Week stab at Russian political legislation.

I wonder how many of them are gay 😉

I have a pair of JVC HA-SR75S-E that meet pretty much all your criteria albeit at the top of your budget (£76 Amazon). Very comfy, look great in a retro kind of way and sound fantastic; hugely impressed.

Spent years in retail selling Sennheiser etc and these are up there with some of the best I heard and very good value.

That sounds like a long time to wait for a car. Did you time it so it’d have new, late 2013, plates on it?

Nope, didn’t even cross my mind. I was quoted 9-12 weeks and we’re around ten now, when do the plates change?

oh I think you may be massively disappointed at the amount of testing your car doesn’t get before you’re handed the key!

This may be my first (brand) new car but I’m pretty realistic about the odds of having a load of problems, fingers crossed it’ll not happen but best be prepared hey… Still doesn’t dampen the excitement!

what would you think if your brand new car had 45 miles on it? or 75? or more?

Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

Think Singletrackmind hit the nail on the head. After Edinburgh Woking is likely to seem flat and lacking character, I’d be mildly amazed if you found it suitable. However it’s surrounded by some really very nice places and commuting in is not a problem. Guildford, Godalming, Haslemere all span the Surrey hills and are all easily within reach, or head towards London for a busier lifestyle.

All due respect to Woking residents but I’d never live there. Bad example of what the south east has to offer. I do however know a very reasonable mechanic in Woking if that helps 🙂

Almost. RRP once fully specified mine was around the £4,300 mark but LBS did a very good deal, paid around £3,600. If I had the cash, even at a slight stretch, I don’t think I’d be bothered paying £5-£6k. I’ll never afford a new Porsche of Ferrari so buying a high end bike is the most exciting purchase available to me. I’ll probably ride my current bike (2011) for two three more years then start looking again, the whole wheel size shenanigans should have stabilised by then…

1) Yes he was in the wrong
2) Yes you could ride in a manner that would mean that even if there are bellends around you won’t hit them but
3) That would be shit. So what we actually do is, we ride quick and committed, and in a manner that deals with the likely, and just accept that sometimes unexpected things will happen. It is part and parcel of the sport we do.

Couldn’t agree more and perfectly phrased. Except when clearly there is a risk of walkers, dogs etc this is the only way to ride IMO. The pure joy of riding on the edge and pushing your limits is a special place. Be safe, be sensible, but if you’re not falling of once in a while you’re not trying hard enough… 😉

Satellite broadband is now much better (priced) than it used to be but still expensive at £75 a month for top, unlimited plans. Still, 16Mb is pretty good. We have a few clients using it with stable results.

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I can only comment on Christopher Ward as I own one, not the trident as I’ve got a C11 but I’ve handled the C60 and it’s every bit as well built. I have a 12yr old Seamaster and honestly think there’s bog all difference in quality; either the CW watches are a steal or the Omega is over priced – take it either way but chances are my next watch will be another CW, superb!

Not common either and lots of admiring comments which is nice 8)

ask1974 – That’s one of the best looking Orange Fives I’ve ever seen.

Thanks mate, cost a small fortune and I had a huge amount of fun sleepless nights agreeing the spec with my LBS, TBH I finally just thought what the hell and went with my heart. 18 months in and it’s still stunningly good and worth every penny. There’s something very satisfying about making the right choice, suits the way I want to ride perfectly and is so capable my riding has improved no end.

Rickit yours is lovely and I considered the Crome finish as well, very smart. The Five has a brutalist kind of look and will never be pretty in the way an ASR5 or IBIS is but then it’s function over form and I rather like it – the whole filing cabinet thing is hilarious… 😀

The lamp replacement warning is to do with maintaining 100% image quality, over time the lamp dims and you lose brightness and colour rendition, most bulbs drop below acceptable output after about half their effective life. There’s no technical reason why you shouldn’t keep using the old bulb – just replace it when the picture becomes unwatchable. Lamp timer irrelevant in such a case. Reset it when you put a new one in.

I thought the thread was going to be about Egypt.

Lets take it there then, associated to the OPs question. I’ve been tracking the news as I’m sure a lot on here have and the one thing that I find quite shocking is the number of Egyptians (including the out going president) who state that they will lay down there life for their political religious views.

I appreciate we have it very good here by comparison but it seams that certain religious orders seem very happy to escalate political discourse to a matter of life and death almost immediately. No wonder it so difficult to reach understanding and compromise when the other guy says he’s willing to die to help win his argument…. 🙄

Question for the ‘Zen’ fanboys, why so great? Just looked on-line and service isn’t the cheapest, speed no different to others and capped downloads (albeit quite high). About the only thing that looks useful is a static IP address but most users wouldn’t find this much use. Not knocking Zen just curious why you guys are so pleased with them.

Personally I’m with Sky, the service has been more or less faultless, it’s £7.50 a month and I get to speak to English speaking service personnel. Was with BT before and I will never, ever buy services from them again – well, never say never but it would take one hell of a product…

Beer.

probably the best sound in the world

9pm. News is at 10pm.

Personally I find idea of a typical UK stag, by which I mean curry, beer, ‘event day’ and night out is unbelievably dull. Nothing you can’t do on a normal weekend. I’m with PartriotPro but without all the ‘Brits abroad’ nonsense. FFS if anyone on this forum actually acts like that then I’m off…

Mine was a summer trip to Chamonix and we’ve done Prague, Munich beer festival, another Chamonix (winter) plus a few UK based. None were overly expensive with good planning but the overseas trips stand head and shoulders above the rest. If you’re a fairly close group go have some fun somewhere interesting and make it memorable, leave curry and Brighton to weekends where you can’t think of anything else to do…

Miffy’s idea sounds brilliant.

What out for WiKi… Often wrong.

unsolicited good and services act 1971

If I understand the legal speak correctly you have two routes to ownership…

1. Wait six months and if Apple do not try to recover the goods you can do as you wish.
2. Send them a letter giving them 30 days to collect, if they don’t you can also do as you wish.

Looks like the law is being amended though and maybe to cover events such as this due to the amount of distance selling now taking place.

If it was me I’d take option 2 and write a letter. Honest and you can sleep well, you never know you might be ignored and can keep the goods legally.

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What a strange discussion, of course this change is manufacture led. Just look at pretty much any industry and you’ll see new products every year. Allways better (whether it’s demonstratable or not) or with some new feature that makes last years look old. Cars, TVs, AV, coffee machines, phones the list is, well, everything.

Sorry guys, but anyone moaning about the cost of upgrading due to ancillary items well you’re just not their target market. They want to sell as many bikes as possible and whilst I’m not in the industry my guess is that frame only sales make for a small margin of sales against complete bikes. They really don’t care about you as sooner or later you’ll have to make the change anyway. Change is always painful for some.

Just get out and ride.

Great post. Where does it stop FFS… 😯

Watching that and the guys at Rampage etc what it must be like to visualise a line and have the confidence and ability to pull it off. God I wish I could do that. Next life I’ll give it a go 😐

Nice one scholarsgate, thanks.

Skyliner, appreciate that it was more a case of understanding the file formats it’s compatible with etc… I understand it has an SD slot so I was thinking about using that for music playback rather than iOS. Cheers anyway.

Skyliner I’ve just ordered a CC GT which will come with the 315, do you know where I can download the manual? I’d like to read up prior to collection.

Thanks.

I have a 2012 Five and looking at the 650 version I’m very interested. I’ve yet to ride a 650 but having had some fun on 29″ I have this sneaky feeling that it’ll be very good for trail riding; with the right frame of course 😉 If the new version rides just a little better with some of the benefits of bigger wheels and maintains the essence of what I love about mine then brilliant.

Innovation is for new, not existing products unless it can be added without changing the essence of the original. Look what Coke did back in the 70s, nearly ruined themselves… Not sure what sort of innovation you guys expect a bike company to come up with when tinkering with an already successful product?

I think riverpig summed up perfectly;

This is what a new Five should be, in my opinion. An evolution, not a revolution. A few tweaks to produce a bike that rides that little bit better, keeps up with prevailing fashions but still stays true to the original. Whether those tweaks are to angles, pivot position or wheel size is all the same. If they are going to innovate it should be with new models, not by radically changing a bike that people like as it is.

Oh, and please stop banging on about cost. Yes it’s expensive compared to the competition but (like any other company) I expect Orange will be using profit from successful models balance other, less popular models and make a success of their brand. I happily paid for mine and I couldn’t care a hoot if Orange are making a bit more than other brands do, I bought it for the ride not the value of its parts… 🙄

Looks very nice. 650 does seem to be inching its way along…

Tucker, thinking about it – does it matter when you do it? I appreciate there’s a ‘best’ time to do it but I assume it can’t do any damage?

Thanks guys. Will get Googling…

Some personal favourites from years gone by…

Leftfield – leftism
Groove Armada – Goodby country hello nightclub
Faithless – Reverence
Ralph Myerz and the Jack Herren Band – A special album
Jurassic 5 – Power in numbers
Dr Dre – 2001
Pink Floyd – Most of them

EDIT :

The Cult – Electric
Good call on the Cure
ACDC – Back in Black
Etc…

As mactheknife correctly points out we tend to bang our own drums so I’ll keep with the theme… I built up an Orange 5 at just under 30lbs and it’s been my only bike for 18 months. Does for me perfectly. Of course there are times the idea of a more XC orientated bike is attractive but these area very rare and I never want for more travel, but then again at 39 and living in Surrey there’s not much call… I spent a fortune but every ride is a joy 😀

Specialized Camber springs to mind as does the Bandit and Yeti ASR5, the latter of which I’ve ridden on several occasions and it’s bloody superb.

Crispo, good luck and hope you have a cracking day…

Sounds pretty similar to ours back in 2005. In-laws caught the venue, food, flowers and photographer; my parents supplied the booze (breakfast and bar) plus entertainment; we paid for dress, rings, honeymoon, presents, wedding night etc. I think the whole thing came in around £12k for 80 odd dinner guests and 20-30 extra in the evening. We were really lucky and caught a new venue just as it was gaining momentum, paid £2k for what now costs around £4k 😯 . Food and booze was about £5k from memory and this included a paid bar, obviously this is one area you can save a packet if you’re looking to do so. We supplied the wine for the meal and paid corkage of about £1.50 per bottle IIRC.

Far to say it was a superb day and is, by far, the most enjoyable (formal) day we’ve had. We still have mates referring back to it as a classic which is nice. The guests are the most important component IMO, clearly the bride takes center stage but if you want a memorable day then make sure your guests are catered for and you’ll have a blast. DON’T treat it as a reunion for old friends and distant family, it’s your day and it’s yours (and your parents) money, why waste it on people you don’t see often and who don’t play an active roll in your life? From my experience this is where weddings come unstuck with disparate groups of people milling around and not interacting… if most of the people know each other it’s much, much more fun.

Some of the points that worked for us were;

A Friday wedding. Although guests needed a day off to attend it meant they still got a weekend, it’s was also half the price of a Saturday so we could pamper them a bit more. Everything at one venue so no trooping between church / registry and reception. Once they arrived guests could relax and start to get in to the spirit. The venue included accommodation for about two thirds of the guests (mix of bedrooms and cottages on the estate), obviously this was extra but guests were happy to pay as they would have a hotel. Meant the party went on into the small hours…

We left at about 11.30pm and went to stay in a very nice (cosy) local pub. It was rather entertaining walking in in full wedding atire and the look on the locals faces was hilarious… I ended up pulling pints behind the bar and my wife got heaps of attention. Safe to say a good move. If we’d stayed I’d have got pissed with mates and probably slept on one of the chairs 😳

I have to plug the venue as it and it’s staff were amazing. Chris, the owner, was taking guests for tours of the wine celler and letting them sneak a few glasses. If you take a look remember we only paid £2k so you can see we got an amazing price, it’s a whole lot more than that now…

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VW Scirocco GTii, red with black sports trim. I still want that car back…

Yes, coming from a RAV4 I’ll miss 4WD (especially living in the hills) but having test driven one I’m sold… Just have to work from home on the two days it snows each year 😀

You don’t see many of them on the road which nice. That or there’s a good reason why not 😐

Thanks for the input guys. For the record all software platforms we use are compatible with everything up to and including seven, and I would assume most are ok with eight as well just haven’t checked yet. This is more about stability and general UI. XP was clunky but it just worked and having used colleagues Vista machines there was a very good reason I stayed with XP.

I’m a bit out of touch with seven and rumours aren’t especially encouraging about eight, hence the question directed to those more in the know.

Premiership football players demonstrate everything that’s wrong with society every weekend… No respect for rules or people and cheat at almost every turn.

Watching Suarez ‘pretend’ to have been hurt after the bite was almost as appalling. Football needs to stamp this out or it’ll never improve, but With the money involved know one will be interested in taking the correct action. Any other job you’d be fired on the spot with charges placed.

Fast ball = slow game (you hardly need to move)
Slow ball = fast game (you need to move a lot)

Answer to OPs question is probably red, but really should be aiming for yellow or double yellow. Doesn’t mean you have to but that should be the objective. God I miss it!

I opened an account to see what the fuss was all about. IMHO it’s a bit rubbish.

This…

The most unfathomable means of communication… @ this and # that? No idea and zero inclination to learn, occasionally have a look to see if anything interesting has been said but tend to find it’s news I’m already aware of. I can see it’s uses but it’s not for me really.

This looks to be a belter on paper, not tested one yet so can’t recommend but if I was in the market this would be at the top of my list. Includes an HDMI switch so you can use it as a hub to connect all your devices to the telly – really good idea unless you have an AV receiver doing that job… But I’d still be interested on UI and features alone.

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500GB or 1TB options.