I find the small block 8 works well on the back, and a nevegal on the front. Go 2.35 as the area seems hard on tyres

steam them for a few mins until they go a rich green.

Serve with melted butter and salt and pepper.
Helpful tip:

To make sure you are only cooking the bit you want to eat, hold one at the base, and then half way up, and bend it like you want to snap it. It always breaks where the woody bit starts so you only eat the nice bits.

Be prepared for smelly wee, even if you eat it raw

OK, so not long ago a motorcyclist was making his way, hopping past cars on an A road. Not blatting past in one go, but overtaking when safe.

One car driver takes offence to being overtaken and as the motorcyclist came level, during the overtake, without warning the car driver rammed the motorcyclist, who lost control and spent a good amount of time in hospital.

The outcome was jail time for the prat in the car.

Cyclists are more agile than cars and vans, and in London, or any big city, they overtake where ever they can. Does that make them an excusable target for this kind of behaviour? NO!

If we have less of these dangerous numpties on the road, then more people would cycle, or ride motorbikes.

There is no excuse for such a lack of respect for life.

Fair point, but I don't see this guy racing down the road, in fact he just seems to be cruising, and the van seems to be slowing, in the middle of the road, deliberately trying to knock the cyclist off.

How is that not a seriously stupid move by the van driver. If this had been me, My Switzerland persona would have been replaced by an exceeding angry austrian/german country from the 1940s!

I am not saying the cyclist is a saint, but that van driver is intent o causing bodily harm to the cyclist! How can you look past that!

This is not normal behaviour I would expect from anyone on the road.

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So you'd be happy to be rammed off the road?

Jolly hockey sticks and all that?

Are you Ghandi reincarnate?

why are we all arguing?

The video clearly shows a cyclist riding along, a van driver pulling out, obstructing the traffic with right of way. FAIL.
The van driver immediately tries to push cyclist off the road. FAIL. The van driver deliberately drives in the middle of the road to entice the cyclist up the inside, so he can again batter him off the road, and then throws a bottle at the cyclist!

This is not a SMIDSY, this is clearly a deliberate attempt to halt a cyclists progress on the public highway. Get that va driver arrested or something!

Why are cyclists on a cycling forum arguing about god knows what in relation to this and not supporting the cyclist?

If you want an interesting take on alien invasion: District 9!

That is about as good a scifi film as I have ever seen!

chillies don't help 😯

I got the Alpine ones from HG, which have 2 different noise reduction levels. Quite comfy. Only issue is I can hardly hear my own bike 😥

Talking to the FC at the moment, about Farley Mount, as some on here know, and having a Blue graded route round the woods would be great for the local rider, and there are a surprisingly large amount of riders in the area!

Family Biking should also have other things to do, dependant on age groups, so we wanted to link to the Museum in Winchester where the mosaic from the Roman Villa was put, that kind of thing.

I have got Ian Warby from the CTC involved, who loves the idea, and apparently Sustrans are always interested in these sorts of ventures. Let me know if I can help out, and maybe we can help each other succeed in getting the FC to support future development

Well said repack!

how very commendable.

Like it or not, WE don't have a say in it. Only those running the fossil fuel companies can do it, but is it in their interest?

More time and energy in to alternatives that provide us with a solution, with limited change to our way of life will be accepted by the populous

so don't explore new places and enjoy the country in which we live?

For what?

Proven to benefit whom?

Are you a carbon footprint auditor?

Guilt won't change this world, only lack of choice…..

had a vanilla r done on a nomad, and the difference was OH MY GOD!!!!!!!! good.

Well worth it!

please, somebody stop this Guardian Blogger! There are so many more issues out there other then how much theoretical and tenuous good some chap is doing by riding a bike. It's a fun thing to do. Isn't that enough?

less torque available from a Supersport, and the bikes are much smaller in size, so rider height and weight will have an effect on the performance and handling of the bike.

Stock 1000s are still scary machines and resemble the kind of bikes you'll see(or not (SMIDSY comment)) ripping up your local lanes on a weekend, on their way to a tea and chip stop at a biker cafe somewhere near by….

I agree with GM, the tolerance for the speed gun in the pit lane is a little tight! Mind you I could hardly understand half the rant!

Maybe they could have filmed it with the slo-mo camera, and subtitles?

My neighbour is a green oak architect, his son is a chippie. Winchester way.

and to summarise the thread….

Anticipate, Overtake and forget about it, unless:

1) TJ is the Middle lane hog
2) LHS & Cougar are having some kind of road rage spat in front of you.

Alternate Option:

Work from home and go out for a sneaky ride on your bike at 'lunchtime' and vent your frustrations out on that nasty climb 3/4 way round your local loop.

As John Lennon said: Life's too short to waste it being angry

M

depends on your scale. I suppose. My point was, the business world will keep on turning, writing off the costs of business, or worse, writing off the UK. If you raise the cost to conduct business in the UK, from the UK we will no longer be able to expect international firms to want to invest here.

My main argument is that although roads and transport is a mess, surely there are better places to find economic salvation for the countrys bottom line?

ideally, yes

Too much to ask? Isn't that the role of the uneducated punter?

And another thing, you have started using big words.

(although hydrogen is a bigger word than espouse) and will have never been seen dead in an Alistair Maclean novel, so not in my usual vocabulary, unless I happen to glance across at the witterings of Michael Winner in my wife's sunday times.

Play fair!

TJ

I advocate the Hydrogen solution, which already exists, and just needs support. It would also not mean a change of social harmony, and xill use the most abundant element in the universe!

I don't have the answers, but blaming cars is not going to help. There are bigger fish to fry. Fossil fuels should not be part of our future, but resolution to change will only happen at times of crisis.

Look around, I think the world is in a bit of a mess! The balance of power will be with those that embrace new technology.

I don't think we can un-evolve(if indeed that is what we have done) or suggest cultural change that won't support our cities needs (which seemingly includes fleecing commuters on a daily basis). So we must keep moving in the same direction as the rest of the planet. Just without burning old tress and rotten dinosaurs.

but we have less rich people than the old days. So raising fuel tax will hit those that are already vulnerable, the single mums and dads, the rural working and middle class, the sole trader…..

There has to be another way!

TJ I think you are barking up the wrong tree.

Reliance on public transport wont help small business grow, won't help tradesman get to the site and keep their prices affordable.

Raising duty on fuel is not the answer. Yes Our infrastructure is groaning under overuse, but then if you take into consideration the population density of the UK, I don't think we're coping badly. Humanity is at its best at times of crisis. Dependance on fossil fuel for energy consumption, for what ever use is unbalancing the world at economic, geological, ecological and yes, POLITICAL levels.

I view the issues in regards to the state of our roads as endemic to the larger picture. You can treat skin complaints and ill health with vitamins and ointments, or you can wean the patient off maccy D's as their staple diet!

I think we have been suffering from too much Gov control. Too little money spread too thin is never a winning strategy. Let the potholes be resolved at their seasonal time….at the end of this financial year.

How many Mitsubishi Shoguns were bought nationally for the traffic wombles?

There's another saving in the bank for Osbourne

NEXT!

GrahamS,

You mean apart form inner London, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham……

what I really hate about your argument, and the general argument for leaving the idea of motorised transport in the last century is the complete and utter lack of an alternative other then huddle in a muddy village and start your own hemp based transport policy.

If Greenpeace and friends of the earth and all those middle class pointy wagging finger type organisations supported technical development for realistic alternatives, rather than ill conceived hijacks of oil platforms and other stupidity, then we would be in a better place right now.

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quick poll for the sandal wearing green ethics types…

Do you live in a city/town?
Are you aware of the lack of alternatives outside main urban areas?

If infrastructure allowed us to use Bio-ethanol, then great, or even better, march those new hydrogen powered cars into production. I'm not tied to fossil fuels, just personal transport. Don't tax me for your selfish, urbanite point of view, otherwise known as a labour voter!

But we are off topic….

Yes, Hammond sounds like a Tory from the 1950s. Anyone got an INITIATE NATIONAL PANIC button on the their keypad?

watercress and marmite sandwiches

Oh yeah……….

just checked freeview UK and apparently I wont receive the HD signal for 2 more years. I'll be sticking to my present pvr then.

as has the rest of humanity that originally got excited about this utter load of carp.

In 1994 I had a bad stack. I broke my wrist, tore ligaments in my shoulder, and broke 3 ribs. I also crushed my helmet on one side, and could only see in red and white for about 5mins, after being unconscious for a minute or so, according to my riding partner. I never ride without a helmet. I would have probably died if I hadn't been wearing one.

Never ridden a Scott since, either.

If I see a numpty riding without a helmet (with the exception of riders going uphill, with helmet strapped on them somewhere) I just assume the Darwin principle will take effect.

Stay safe, ride on your limit and wear protection for our dangerous sport.

Remember, you might not bounce……

yet mostly boggy marshland with no trees

Nope, pretty sure they are the only pollinators i can think of. Not a zoologist, oh, except for butterflies, and humming birds.

njee20. your location is not the YHA carpark, You have pointed out the one just up the road, next to the road. Tbe YHA car park is at the top of the little yellow road to the left of your car park, Next to the brown triangle, which is the YHA location. It's at the bottom of the main Telegraph Road trail.

Your carpark highlighted is at the end of the extra wiggle of singletrack to the car park at the bottom. Right?

I have various chargers littered around my life to keep my iphone running! Car, laptop, next to bed, office. It has become instinctive to reach for the charger. Holidays and trips away from the norm are now measured in proximity to charging!

there are a few car parks around Holmbury, Anyone got a link to a map to give everyone a chance to find parking? I would avoid the Pitch car park, because that is always really busy on a sunny sunday.

Maybe we should warn Peaselake stores to get an extra large batch of cheese straws ready! It's the official food of surrey hills cyclists don't you know!

You and me both Joolsburger.

That YHA car park will be RAMMED! If more than 20 cars, it will be interesting!

Was up on the hills last weekend, and the only puddles were in VPL, but Yoghurt Pots/Parklife was pure flow in motion.

See you all there on sunday at 10:30!