Problem is, both the second and third post mortems based their conclusions on a mistake in the first. They both made their conclusions on the fluid found in the body, neither pathologist actually saw that fluid though.

In his first report, Dr Patel reported that he had found “intraabdominal fluid blood about 3l with small blood clot.” This had been interpreted by the other medical experts to mean that he had found 3 litres of blood in the abdomen.

If Dr Patel had found 3 litres of blood, this would have been approximately 60% of Mr Tomlinson’s blood volume and would have been a highly significant indicator of the cause of death.

However, when Dr Patel provided a further report on 6 April 2010, he recorded that he had found “intraabdominal fluid with blood about 3l with small blood clot”. Since Dr Cary and Dr Shorrock inevitably depended on Dr Patel’s notes of this finding to inform their own opinions, the significance of this more recent description of Dr Patel’s findings had to be clarified with Dr Patel and discussed with the other experts.

Dr Patel was seen twice in conference by the prosecution team. Dr Patel maintained that the total fluid was somewhat in excess of three litres but that it was mainly ascites (a substance which forms in a damaged liver), which had been stained with blood. He had not retained the fluid nor had he sampled it in order to ascertain the proportion of blood because, he said, he had handled blood all his professional life and he knew that this was not blood but blood-stained ascites.

Dr Patel also confirmed that he had found no internal rupture which would have led to such a level of blood loss.

(b) For Mr Tomlinson’s death to have occurred from blood loss so quickly, there would have to have been an internal rupture of some significance.

(c) Dr Patel found no internal rupture which would have led to such a level of blood loss.

(d) At the later post mortems there was no visible sign of a rupture.

As Kuco says, don’t give yourself any excuses, make sure everythings ready to go. And move your alarm away from your bed so you have to get out to turn it off.

I hate where I live for riding, and yet I love it at the same time.

There’s naff all riding out of the door, but there’s so many good places within short distance from Manchester, and good easy links to get there.

Nod politely, say “I’ll bare that in mind” and then ride off. Don’t let him get the satisfaction of getting a rise out of you.

On another note, where abouts is this descent/climb? ;)

Just seen this on his website too…

8) 8) 8) 8)

Weirdly I dont have a naked woman, but do have my cousin,bit of naugty spyware going on there STW?

It’ll display anyone your friends with on facebook first, then random ones. Freaked me out when I came on here on someone else’s PC and saw my own face looking back :D

Anyone else find the red button feed fascinating? I like Moyles, and I like the music, but its something about the watching how they work, when normally they’re just voices thats strangely addictive to watch.

I was thinking about this the other day on a long climb.

At the moment, it’s one of the following: MT500 Jacket (hood, awesome), Fox AntiFreeze Gloves, Garmin Dakota 20(wouldn’t mind upgrading to an Edge 800 though..), and if we’re counting bike parts, KS i950r.

Will it work with Garmin Connect? That’s s good site, and it’ll export uploaded routes to GPX

I drive most of the time. I do some riding from home, but mostly flat road and paths. There’s little to no “decent” riding round here, so you have to drive, and once you’ve loaded up the car, you might as well drive somewhere good.

And yes, I have spent more time driving than riding on quite a few occasions.

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At this moment in time. Most likely will change within the hour.

Saw some MXers up there on Friday too. Wonder why that routes suddenly become popular. Obviously upsetting someone too, as the gate was tied up.

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Managed to choose the grey, wet windy day to ride!

Did Hope Brink, Blackley Clough and Hagg Farm areas yesterday, and all was fine. Really good in fact, if a bit windy. Few muddy bits, but easily avoided, even the grassy Hope Brink was ok in the most part.

Agree with Depreston.

Roman Lakes in Stockport anyone? Should be lovely, really isn’t.

Lots of run in and run off. Take for example, a drop line, needs plenty of time to get yourself comfortable and right before hitting the drop, then plenty of room to stop afterwards. Lee Quarry is a bad example, IMO, the drops are too close together, and there isn’t enough run up, and as a beginner you want a bit of time.

The Llandegla one is excellent, although I’ve heard it said the run out of the smaller jumps is a bit short, you have to be on the brakes as soon as you land.

Newage Imprezas (2001 on iirc) have ISOFIX, probably your best bet.

I’d like to be smug here and say I only ever use Paypal and have no problems, however the gits still haven’t processed my order from Sunday yet :D

My Paypal is linked by DD to my bank account, which I assume is more secure anyway, harder to set up fraudulent DDs than use a card number I guess?

One downside, it does make it very easy to spend money :D

While reading up on Wikipedia, I’ve just noticed that Disney World, Florida has a no fly zone round it. :D

Problem is, any magazine is under pressure to get reviews done as soon as a product is available, while it’s still relevant and people are still interested.

But the major issue with all adjustable seatposts is longevity, and that can’t be tested short term, so ANY review is going to be pretty much the same. They could guess from looking at it how it’ll last, but it’ll just be a guess, same as any one of us could make.

I’d actually be more bothered if they declared something the best ever without actually knowing, like one or two reviews of the Reverb I’ve seen.

It’s a military no fly zone, meaning he can’t use his air force, any military aircraft would be at risk of being shot down be whoever polices the no fly zone.

That combined with the fact that to patrol it, you’d need to take out any of Libya’s air defences, means you are pretty much attacking Libya with military force, which is a big step.

The problem with mag reviews is that the can’t possibly test them for long enough to find any true problems. They’re all bloody good when they’re new, its how they last that tests the good ones.

My i950 has had a few minor niggles in the last few winter months, they’re definetly not a fit and forget item. So far the heads come loose, no problem, just retighten with a big of loctite, and the cable gets jammed up with mud. Just had to order new cable and inner, not a massive problem but an annoyance.

They are pretty revolutionary though, if/when it stops working, you will wonder how you ever lived without it. Don’t think I could go back to a standard post easily.

i hate the new slideshow thing, youu have to go into the page html inspector thing to drag out the blurdy url

Hit F5 ;)

I’ve got two sets of MG1s, both done lots of miles, one mainly in the rocky peak district and at Lee Quarry bashing off rocks left right and centre. Only dislodged pin, and only one of the pedals, at 18 months old (other set about 6 months older) has started to creak a bit.

In theory, we should all decide what we think something is worth, what we are willing to pay, and set our maximum bid to that, regardless of how long is left.

And that would work fine if everyone did that, whoever valued it highest would get it, everyone else would be happy that it was too expensive for them.

However, they don’t, everyone gets excited over auctions and end up battling it out to see who can pay over the odds the most usually. Which leaves anyone doing it the “right” way left way behind. So if you can’t beat them, join them. Wait till there’s 5 seconds left then put in your absolute maximum plus a few pence.

Except it’s not. Quiz question – how many penalties awarded to away teams at Old Trafford since the start of the Premier League? How many to United in the same period?

Not really a great statistic to use, of course Utd are going to get more penalties at home, they’re the team that will, in most games, be putting more pressure on the opposition defence in the penalty area. Inevitably that’s going to draw fouls in the box and penalties.

This week alone united have had 4 bad decisions against them in crucial games in a tight race for the league, and yet the same old cliched “United get all the decisions” comments get wheeled out again.

And that takes the attention away from the real matter, which is the number of poor decisions made by officials week in week out for all teams.

Why were you stuck for so long?

There is no 100% cure I don’t think, it’s mountain biking, and its muddy, we just have to live with it, but the neoguard seems a decent enough way to reduce the worst of it and still look half decent.

I give you about a month before you decide you “need” something new :D

Foxs seem good to me, not had them long though. Lovely warm fleecy lining.

Whereabouts in Manchester, and have you got access to a car?

You realise it wasn’t BTP who found him not guilty?

Without knowing the full details, who knows what happened or why? Suggest you have a good long chat with someone before accusing someone of gross incompetence.

The biggest mistake that was definetly made was the assumption that someone was guilty before the trial.

Presume its a Hydrapak bladder like my nomad:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=57592

That one seems to work better.

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They do all seem to be taken from behind :D

Superglue Gel is adhesive of the gods.

I’m nominating Ratchet Spanners as an awesome invention.

How many manufacturers at the handmade bike show are paid advertisers? They’ve had a 3 part new story with shed loads of pictures and writeup?

The key a successful conclusion to this tricky situation is in fact quite clear.

Strip yourself naked, have your clan coat you liberally all over with white paint, then daub a red cross of St George across your face and chest (preferably in sheeps blood, but paint from the art department will suffice).

Next, simply stand at the top of the playground and cry ‘God for Harry, England, and St George!” before charging at him, tackle swinging.

Someone brought me one of these once..

Rock and roll!