GNAS Grand National Archery Society. To shoot target with a club or go to comps you must be a member for insurance reasons.
Victorian rules and attitudes, some clubs can be well up them selves, and very strict dress codes. Some clubs are ace fun and gagging for new members.

NFAS National Field Archery Society. More woodland outdoorsy type stuff, formed to cater for hunters in the off season.
So think woods and unmarked ranges out to 60yards and 3d targets. No dress code as such, some frown on turning up head to toe in camo and dirty great rambo cutlery for digging arrows out of stumps is a big no no these days 🙂
I saw the tail end of deliverance types and field comps went more family orientated.

You used to be able to do a NFAS shoot on GNAS membership but not vice versa, i belive you need dual membership if you want to do both now.

Before health and safety and a few other things happening the NFAS was mostly a bunch of blokes shooting 3d’s you would have 3 shots per target (bit like a round of golf, shoot one, score it, move to the next) shoot target, walk up stand behind a big tree as next fella shoots, score as he shoots, and sometimes steady the target with your foot (inbetween shots) or call hold fire and pull arrows if high risk of damage between shooters.

Ah the smell of broken cedar wood arrows in the morning, smells like i win my class 🙂

The zip of carbon arrows as they fly past, miss the target and either bury themselves in the ground or explode if the hit something a bit harder than a foam target.

The wincing from the fella using £20 ACE’s as you follow him and stuff a dirty great oversized linecutting alloy arrow into his £60 cluster of carbon fibre 🙂 they tend to shoot last on every target left after that.

Unless the world ends in the morning type of thing happens or swarms of zombies appear overnight….

In the real world, assuming your UK based, unless things have changed.

You can’t shoot people, there is an Abbey on the Welsh/Hereford boarder where it’s technicaly legal by royal command to shoot welsh people once a year with a longbow, although i wouldn’t test that out in court 🙂

Illegal to shoot animals, some argue vermin is allright, i wouldn’t want to test that out in court. That was banned in the 1970’s, back then you could pop off a deer.

It is legal to bowfish in saltwater, but no trout or salmon. Fresh water fishing is illegal. Cross bow and Spear guns come under the same rulings of use, so spear gun fishing is illegal in freshwater and no popping off trout or salmon, there is a third one but can’t remember which fish.

Check the law.

The crossbow that bloke on the walking dead uses may be your best bet.

Ohh organic like the old Oneida Strike Eagle, helleva crack/bang when you let one of them off 🙂

Karinofnine, for what form of archery ? just spaffing about in private or for competiton use ?

End use and user really dicate what you want…..

Recurve, simple, light weight, easy to take down and very minimal work and looking after once set up. For competiton recurves are shot off the fingers so faster to reload, but you hold the draw weight while aiming.

Compound, more complex,more weight, pully and cable system, more cost for cable harness, string’s about same as recurve. Compact and easy to transport, rarely taken down unless replacing cables or cams, more involved in tuning and set up. Not many shoot competition off the fingers due to the compact axle length on some models so a mechanical trigger-release aid is used, also compounds more often use floating or drop away arrow rests, some care is needed with these and release aids so slower reloads.
Super accurate and the cams reduce holding weight by 50-80% of actual draw weight, so easier to hold on aim at full draw over a recurve.

Used to shoot more field archery than target. Mostly in Compound limited, sometimes AFB or traditional, and cross bow.

Northwind, piccy’s piccy’s piccy’s 🙂 pretty please, although unsure if forum elements can withstand seeing MTB flats on a roadbike 🙂

From a racing viewpoint, riders choice or what sponsor makes them use.

Back in the day when SUNN pretty much won everything with Nico and Anne Caro, back when SUNN used to datalog practice runs and see what lines worked, or would an aero tuck be better or would pedals make a difference.

They worked out that on some tracks running flats would give a time gain over running SPD’s and vice versa, so whatever pedal platform had the best gain’s on time would be used in the race run.

Don’t think anyone has ever gone as technical F1 style as the old SUNN team did, ahead of there time perhaps.

🙂

Airwalk skate shoes under £20 from sport direct and DMR V8 with longer corner pins on the outside edges, mud had no effect on pedal grip :)lasted a few race seasons on that set up.

V8 copies, do they have fixed solid pins (not so good)
or do they have allen/hex key pins that are replaceable on the corners or the whole pedal ?

I just bought a bag of 100 stainless pins from a nut&bolt supplier that are longer than stock DMR pins, well cheap that way, just took a pin in and asked for longer ones, few years back was around £6 for 100.

I have not got on with solid spanner on pins and fixed solid pins and normal skate shoes, 5.10 wearers don’t notice so much. V12 with longer pins all round was a bit to grippy.

If your pedals allow the use of other pins try some longer ones on the corners…….oh and shin pads might be handy too 🙂

Got stuck behind a snow plough that was gritting the road this morning, and not early, about 11’ish ?

Council must know something that wasn’t on the weather report, time to dig out the snow chains just in case 🙂

Moots have made a bike for that very purpose of chainsaw duty 🙂

Perhaps Mr carbonV10 was on his first run of that track ?

without the benefit of pre-walking a track before riding it even Steve Peat types will have a slow roll down to check things out.

I don’t know anyone that will hit an unknown track at race pace without knowing what’s round that blind corner or jump.

Did also catch the end the end of the C4 thing, did wonder what it was about.
Also the BDS dates for 2014 are out, and Bike park Wales is on the list wonder if any worldcuppers will do strava 🙂

May not be True…..

A Dragon Downhill Myth from Mountain Ash.
Got told this story at a Dragon race, during the race i was doing we all had to wear goggles in the quarry truck uplift because locals where taking potshots at it, the hill was set on fire by locals, in my race run a large enough cairn of rocks had appeared in the middle of the track to stop a bike if you hit it on the blind run in.

I didn’t get the radio control cars darting on and off the track to make you crash, but was told the tale of a previous race…..

Never asked Rowan Sorrel if it’s true, he was named as the rider.
The locals got a sheep from the nearby fields, at full pelt in his race run at a narrow spot on track, the live sheep was lobbed in front of him.

🙂 may or may not be true ?

Miss the Dragon Downhill races, always a bit wild. 🙂

Refund by a set date ?

Did they tell you they don’t do any refunds until the end of the month when accounts do them enmasse.

Funny how quick they take your money, but seem incapable of doing a refund.

They just dicked about, where rude very unhelpful etc etc, refund never happened, so my bank must be at fault, credits have been sent out, go to bank and get statements, waste my time, etc etc, will have to wait until the end of the month etc etc.

Took 3 months and jumping through credit card company hoops and they got my money back, and this was back in the late 90’s.

Since i got the internet about 8 years ago i now use it to pre-check anywhere i might online shop with.

Good luck with getting your money, most do but it might take a while.

Think Somerset has too many big hills to disappear, maybe a selection of nice islands.

Best dig out the crossbow so i can defend my island and set up an off shore bank 🙂

Hmmmm

If i was in North Lincs i would ditch the bike, and make my way as far inland as possible in the car avoiding all major roads and motorways.

If in sunny somerset on the edge of exmoor, a toss up between north hill and having a picnic on top of the secret radar station watching south wales go under, or going up grabbist and watching Butlins vanish but hoping my 2nd floor flat further up town might survive.

Bike would be whatever is handy, although i doubt the park rangers would mind me driving my car up 🙂

Maybe another saddle, or try and find a local shop that can fit a saddle to the person or has a test service.

WTB did try before you buy, and Spesh body geo most likely at a Spesh main dealer may be of interest if it’s a saddle thing.

Better than nothing, if a massive sugar hit will get you where you need to be then yep, but it wont really do you any favours.

Not so mad thinking really, years ago a ghetto energy drink was mixing 50/50 cola and water, and from reading race reports i think it was the arrowhead 135 (or similar event) a contestant goes into detail about required food carry for emergency use, a jar of peanut butter did the job, chap carried it but never needed it for a few years (same jar) 🙂 but it fullfilled the requirements of must carry kit…… and get the arrowhead wrong…..good chance of a slow death.

There are better things than a bottle of golden syrup 🙂

or just own them with bombers.

which is a bit hard with faceless cowards that hide and stalk online.

totally rideable on a hardtail if you are used to downhilly stuff.

Raced a Karate Monkey rigid on v-brakes, nearly died a few times due to v-brakes and trying to overtake orange 5’s in rocky bits, scared some big hit DH bike riders as well.

Had immense fun and aimed to do it this year but upgrade to disc brakes.

It’s down to the confidence and ability of the rider more than the bike being ridden.
The black has a couple hundred meters that are very steep and rocky wheelgrabbing holes, the top section is loose rubble and fairly flat, when you drop down into the shored up corners, thats the scary part, lower 1/3 is fast and furious. Oh and many consider it instant death if it’s wet and mud is dragged all over the steep rocky bits, fair few photo’s of racing in those conditions on the net.

Of course pre-walking the track so you know where the big holes and blind drops are will help 🙂 doing blind runs on DH tracks can get interesting on the first go 🙂
The red is a lot more mellow and easier going, they have done a stack of work since i was there last year, i was hoping for more swoopy bermed corners and little jumps, going on the photo’s on the FB page thats what it has.
If you need a big bike take one, if your happy you can get down on a hardtail, take one…. or take both just to be sure.

What Globalti said 🙂 planning that exact trip in the future.

I sort of cheated last year and parked on the road, only about an hours walk into Camasunary bothy, little caff over looking the harbour is fab. Then i found out about the boat trips and started planning 🙂

Would be a cracking little adventure to nip out on the boat tour, get dropped off on the way back and walk round to the bothy.

Stein Inn is worth a vist, good food, cracking little caff and cake shop called Jann’s near Dunvegan castle.

Alpkit Ti cookset then 🙂 i bought the lot, well pleased with it and the savings over big brand names.

Nice little adventure.

Read the reviews :)via google.

Bit chunky and hefty and takes a while to charge things.

If your not worried about bulk and don’t mind feeding it twigs for a few hours then why not, they work.

Some nice cheap solar chargers out there now, smaller lighter, more efficent and cheaper, i would get one of those…..if i had to rely on electric gizmos for a walkabout 🙂

Nice idea well done, i suspect aimed at gadget show camper types over more serious campers.

Some of us still do that.

Rigid and rim brakes makes things a touch lively, but fun. Freaks out the big bike riders.

I doubt it would sit well with the BDS types so maybe don’t attempt a national 🙂 but there is no reason why you can’t race a local level event as long as you meet armour/helmet requirements, and your bike meets BC requirements of being fit to race, so no bar ends these days, but bar end plugs are a must, working brakes and bike in full working order, and you can relive your youth.

Just flipped on to this on telly, pro race is around the 200km left to go mark.

Bit put out, the telly guide says an event that allows professionals and amateurs the chance to race on Londons road, did all the fixie brakeless hipsters get a blinding start ? but stop at the first coffee shop 🙂 and not one pro has a big D-lock to ward off close contact with cars or bike muggers, and no Boris bikes on track (yet)

Still it’s cycling on telly on a wet sunday 🙂

This Torridon place crops up a lot lately 🙂 must have a look sometime.

make it easier to find 🙂 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk

I went 25k, think that covered 20 square KM.

I did go through the centering process in both 25 and 50k and there was more fine detail in 25k, and yes contours are easier to make out too. 50k i think covers around 40 square KM area

I could fit my required area in on 25k, and i thought there was more detail with landmarks, i prefer the larger scale as i find it easier and more accurate when planning and working out route distance, i would go 50k if i couldn’t fit my route/area onto a 25k.

Another fan.

Instead of getting 2 maps to cover where we went i just got a custom one of Knoydart.
Xmas pressy for Mrs Ace, a taster of our impending trip there, so map was renamed Mrs Ace goes wild camping @ Knoydart, scored loads of brownie points with that one.

Whats not to love, some places are split over 2 maps, so having just what we wanted was ideal, pick the scale you want, center the map was a work of art in guess work to make sure i got as much in as possible, that took a while but got it bang on, used there file photos for the cover as didn’t have one handy to sub in.

Service was quick as well, had it in 2 days, strange thing is the maps come from one place and the silva map case i ordered as well came on it’s own from the O/S shop warehouse, that took 4 days.

Will have to go back and make sure we get maximum useage of it 🙂

It’s a rider fit and comfort thing.

I 1 finger brake, i could not get a happy medium with shimano gear shift pods and my brake levers as the design of the pods blocked getting the sweet spot and they didn’t have removable shift indicators.

I swapped to a SRAM Attack shifter and bingo perfect placement and comfort.

My finger can single brake, and work the shifter, before i had to move my hand to shift, or have good shifting but 1 finger braking was around the middle of the lever so less effective braking.

Only reason for me was to make it fit my hands and more comfy braking-shifting 🙂

I only get pauperfreeview channels so no Bear Grylls show for me, i belive it’s on that rich peoples sky tv.

Ray crops up on Dave a lot though, and he did a few shows with Les, no re-runs of “Bush Tucker man” yet on freeview 🙁

Charlie the bike monger is a well known SS specialist retailer.

I have used Downhill racing spec Chainrings from E13 and Gamut and DMR and Halo or Renthal with no issue, these are available from most good local bike shops, there are many more brands out there, Blackspire, Shimano, Hope etc etc.

The big difference is the rings are not made to shift chains, so have no ramps, but more important have deeper teeth which is better for singlespeeding.
Surly do a nice a range in steel.

Really have a good root about on Sheldons website, so many unasked questions will be answered for you there. There is some very good tweeking your set up advice in the thread already.

Remember, we all started somewhere 🙂 taking the SS path of enlightenment via Sheldon Brown will open your mind (if you drink a bottle of red first)
If you get the urge to go fixed and wear lycra tight jeans, you have gone beyond help and must relocate to London.

which bit 🙂

Vehicle log book ? prove’s ownership, named owner on the log book.

I tried 2 years ago.

Not being the registered keeper/name on the log book, i could not insure a vehicle for private use (wifes old car still in her name.)

I had to scrap my old car earlier than planned and swap insurance after i became the new registered owner of Mrs Ace’s old car.

I could not insure her old car until it was in my name,ergo my car, she could re-insure it for a limited period and have me as a named driver, that was the only way round it and not worth the cost or hassle.

Too many yoofs and villians finding loopholes have made things awkward and costly for us law abiding types 🙂

Some killer advice already from the others.

Your front chainring appears to be a geared one not a SS one.
Geared rings have shallow teeth and shift gates/ramps/lift pins to allow slick fast shifting between front chainrings.

SS rings, have no gates/ramps/lift pins, they also have deeper teeth for a better engagement, which is much safer for you and your knees when honking uphill.

First rule of SS club !
Consult his highness of which whom speaks beyond the grave, God bless his soul, the master of all SS and Fixed Sheldon Brown

http://www.sheldonbrown.com

Crack open a bottle of red, or a cup of tea and biscuits, go read through the site, Sheldon will enlighten you.

🙂 damn good website and held in awe around the world by SS and fixed riders.

Second rule of SS club, get smashed and berate geared riders 🙂

Best go google Bruce, haven’t heard of him.

If down under, then forget Ray/lofty/Bear, pray that Les is on the plane or lots of fat americans* to eat 🙂

(*they don’t taste like chicken i belive)

Tried to do something along these lines, when i was between cars.

You cannot insure a vehicle that you do not own. You must be the named owned on the vehicle documents to insure it.

I was stuck between my car…. being scrapped when MOT expired, and trying to insure Mrs Ace’s old car in my name, while Mrs Ace was the keeper…. but she had bought a new car and insured that, so her old car (to be my new car) was uninsured, but parked up off the road.

We are both named drivers on each others cars now, i could only only insure my new to me car when Mrs Ace sent in the paperwork to register it in my name.

Hmmm

survive a plane crash with no hope of rescue for weeks.

A) survive crash only with Ray Mears or Bear Grylls.

B) survive crash with STW forumites.

Which choice would be the best to live through it 🙂

Lofty Wiseman has suggested a survive off, all 3 dumped on a desert island with no equipment or back up or TV crews.
He reckoned he would eat the pair of them and Ray would keep him going for food for ages 🙂

P.S.
i pick A as best chance of living, i reckon B would become a debate on what to do so epic that most would starve to death or dehydrate before any action would happen…..bit like Lord of the flies but with adults 🙂 and a bit more murdering out.

Found mine in a hedge, was almost part of the hedge.

A 1982 Raliegh Tempest road bike, the gold paint hid the patches of rust well.

The wheels had rotted, i ditched the rusting drop bars and suicide brake levers, a riser bar some old deore brake levers and £115 spent with on-one for a track wheelset and DX 18t freewheel.

The pub hacker is now a pedigree racer, only got joint 4th in a SSEC and second in the clunker classic on it.

Sad thing is in a lot of places old knackers are hard to find, gone for scrap these days, seen loads in local recycle/tip but you can’t fish them out anymore.

Mine would still get nicked because it single speed/fixed, would end up in that London place to spend it’s life being nicked and sold then nicked again.
Still only cost me £115 in new bits, and had stacks of fun with it.

My first DH race bike, second hand in 06 was only £250, new chain and BB later, did a local series in 06 then a Dragon series in 07 so it can be done if your not too fussy.
🙂

What was the event ?

Was it for Quantockians only ?

Down the road in Minehead didn’t know anything was on, first i have heard, just curious as to what adventure on my doorstep i have missed.

🙂

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Media whore.

A week without food ! go a month without food before i consider to take you serious.
I was ill a few months back, did about a week without food before i could eat again.
Perhaps he is doing an extreme diet book ? i only lost about 2 kg.

And he’s the chap that likes cracking hurtfull jokes about others on twitter.
Won’t miss him IF he pegs it after a week of extreme dieting, which i doubt he will as a week without food (will he even stick to it)is not serious…….now back in the 70’s/80’s the H-block hunger strikes where they smeared poo over every square inch of the cells, that’s a serious hunger strike….. or follow through for several weeks until he pegs it….

Don’t move near Yeovil, sky is littered with helicopters 🙂

🙂

Engine breather hose perhaps.

Oil pressure builds when engine running, excess pressure and small amounts of oil can escape.
Sometimes a breather filter can be swapped in on some engines. And some performance bikes have a small catch bottle on the end of the hose so the excess pressure from giving it full throttle at the lights or stabbing the NOS button dosen’t vent oil over the back wheel/down the crank case/ down your leg 🙂

The other one might be the battery vent hose.

Got the bike manual or Haynes guide ? should explain it in there.

Check the oil level anyway, most likely nothing to worry about, quite a few bikes vent/leak a tiny amount, just be glad it’s not an old british motorbike, they mostly had an external engine lubrication system using internal oil 🙂 (leaked lots)

Could be a trap !

Misplaced stalker, bunny boiler, if she looks anything like Glen Close or Sharon Stone you might get murdered out 🙂

I only get junk emails telling me i have a job with a oil company or have inherited a stack of cash mostly around Africa.