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  • Wood burning stove – how long to burn off the paint smell?
  • cruzcampo
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    Evening guys,

    First couple of burns took it easy with low temp as per the manual.

    Now i’m heating it up to 350 *F and once things get hot in the room, the most hideous fume/smokey/chemical smell begins.

    Carbon detector is peaking at 23, which is ok apparently, no physical smoke in the room, so i’m guessing this is the paint curing/burning off?

    sharkbait
    Free Member

    One night should do it – has with my two (Clearview) but obviously the paint may be different.

    Edit: 350f is a bit on the low side – you want to be hitting 200c (about 400f) for an efficient burn.

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    More fuel going on tonight if thats the case 😆

    scotia
    Free Member

    carbon detector… do you mean CO?

    ours took a good few burns before it stopped..

    jimjam
    Free Member

    Probably a week here before I stopped noticing.

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    @scotia yeah carbon monoxide sorry

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    I’m home this weekend so may give it a long run, so far its only been on in the evenings after work.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    After the first couple light burns to set the sealant – 1 long hard hot burn and the smell was gone,

    spooky_b329
    Full Member

    Careful with the paint, I managed to rub off a patch of paint by brushing it with the supplied oven glove when shutting the door during the first few burns!

    scotia
    Free Member

    ok, i was just wondering.. with our CO detector the list of numbers shows 10-24 to be possible health effects with long term exposure.. 9 is the max recommended indoor level..

    maybe check this?!

    CO is not smoke..

    our detector is showing 0, has done since it was installed even with the burner being used. I did test it with sth that gives off CO (incense or cigarette) to check that it functioned!

    willyboy
    Free Member

    Similar to Trailrat; Ours took about 3 or 4 small fires and then 1 longer fire for it to go. It did stink a bit to start, but no smells anymore.

    Don’t have a full blown fire for the first few fires. Just light small ones and let them burn out (that’s what our installer told us anyway).

    flicker
    Free Member

    Took a few days for ours to settle down.

    Mrs f was beginning to get quite negative about it as it was affecting her eyes.

    Thankfully it settled down, as I’m running out of space for patios…..

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    Thanks all, had it on for the longest stretch so far today, and its still there but definitely not as potent 😀

    Rockhopper
    Free Member

    Four days to let everything dry out then go for it with a normal fire. I’ve had no smell and nothing on the alarm. Also nothing in my instructions about taking it easy for the first few fires.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    The light burns are not for the fire …they were for the sealant fire cement , if you dry it too fast it cracks /fails.

    Your installer probably did the first burn to set it all nicely and test for leaks .

    sharkbait
    Free Member

    Or used the proper heat resistant silicon which seems very good.

    twinw4ll
    Free Member

    We never use fire cement or silicone near the stove, it’s the bodgers hallmark.
    Should be able to give a steel stove a good blast straight after fitting, cast iron needs a couple of small fires before using in anger. If a co alarm goes off, do not ignore it, your life could depend on it.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    So that leaves fire rope which looks shite or hopes and dreams of “draw” to stop the flue joints leaking. . So ill stick to my “bodger” hall mark of high temp silicone in the flue joints.

    scotia
    Free Member

    OP – have you checked that CO reading?

    twinw4ll
    Free Member


    Looks neat enough to me trail rat, probably because i didn’t make the mistake of using a metric flue pipe in an imperial collar, problem with high temp silicone it is combustible, if you have a chimney fire the flue pipe could reach in excess of 1000*c it will burst into flames, it has even caught fire in normal stove use.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    very good – and your spigot connections are they all oversize to get rope in ?

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    The fire cement that the installers used to do that very job above ^^^ has all cracked and is needing repaired, is that fire rope method an effective alternative then?. I have some fire rope that would do the job if so….

    Rockhopper
    Free Member

    Yes, the installer just burnt some bits of packing paper in there for a grand total of about five minutes.
    The four day wait was to let the adhesive used on the backing boards dry out otherwise there was a risk that the boards would pop off if they got too warm.

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    scotia – Member
    OP – have you checked that CO reading?

    I reset the meter and its reading 23 a day later. I may buy another as a comparison, its a Kidde one I currently have. Instructions seem to suggest below 30 is ok?

    “Although the peak level feature will display levels below 30 PPM,
    these levels will not result in an alarm no matter how long the
    device is exposed to these levels.
    The peak level feature is helpful in identifying CO occurrences
    below 30 PPM. Although the unit will not automatically display
    levels below 30 PPM, it will detect and store these readings in
    memory. By pressing the peak level button, concentration levels
    as low as 11 and up to 999 PPM will be displayed.
    Concentrations of CO between 0 and 30 PPM can often occur in
    normal, everyday conditions. Concentrations of CObelow 30 PPM may
    be an indication of a transient condition that may appear today and
    never reappear. Just a few examples of conditions and/or sources
    that may cause readings blow 30 PPM are heavy automobile traf-
    c, starting a vehicle in an attached garage, an appliance that
    emits CO when starting up, a re in a replace or charcoal in a nearby
    barbecue. A temperature inversion can trap CO generated by trac
    and other fuel burning appliances causing readings of CO.”

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    @twinw4ll i’ve got a black hard looking compound around my stove top where is joins the black flue pipe, fire cement?

    SaxonRider
    Free Member

    Took ours about a week.

    You people know what temperature your stoves burn at?!? 😯

    I keep mine at ‘hot’ or ‘flipping hot’. It’s always worked for me.

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    @saxon these are a great buy, still need to give mine a 6-8 hour at weekend to cure the paint once and for all 😆

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stovax-Stove-Thermometer-Temperature-Gauge/dp/B00465NFQQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1424817351&sr=8-3&keywords=stove+thermometer

    scotia
    Free Member

    @ OP:

    ours is a fire angel, and i’ve just checked the online instructions…it states that:

    35ppm The maximum allowable
    concentration for continuous
    exposure for healthy adults
    in any 8 hour period, as
    recommended by the
    Occupational Safety and Health
    Administration (OSHA).

    seems like yours is relatively high but ok..

    teasel
    Free Member

    twinw4ll » never use fire cement or silicone near the stove, it’s the bodgers hallmark

    Sadly I bodged mine when fitting and have to re-apply the cement around the flue/stove junction on a yearly basis.

    Don’t suppose you have any tips for removing said hardened cement from that area so I can set about stuffing some rope in the gap. More aesthetic than necessary but it’d be nice to get rid of the ugly band of the stuff. The flue’s enamelled so I’d rather not attack it with an abrasive wheel if I can avoid it.

    twinw4ll
    Free Member

    Old screw driver, just chip away at it, gently does it. 😕

    teasel
    Free Member

    Gah. I was hoping for some strange liquid known only to the trade that would magically soften the shit.

    Thanks anyway…

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