What is a woman ?

Non-tautological answers, please.

What Is a Woman? is a 2022 American online film about gender and transgender issues presented by conservative political commentator Matt Walsh.

You’re a doctor, you tell us!

{I’m pretty sure I’ve seen you state you are not actually a doctor and i’m just kidding}

It’s a trap.

According to Bob Marley, a woman is a person who doesn’t cry.

Somebody to whom an ex-Beatle could hardly explain his mixed emotions at his thoughtlessness.

Do I win?

Thought I’d get in before the flounces/bans etc

I’m reminded of the classic misheard Bee Gees lyric, “four letter woman”.

No, that’s a no woman.

It’s a trap.

We must know the same women.

Wolfmother had this whole self identity thing nailed in their opening line.

“Woman, you know you’re woman”

This is an excellent listen

Sarah Keyworth – Are You a Boy or a Girl?

According to Bob Marley, a woman is a person who doesn’t cry.

Nope, pretty sure that’s Boys according to Robert Smith…

It’s a trap.

I see you’re an acquaintance of Louise.

Apparently it’s whatever Shania Twain feels like.

A giant old girl baby

Isla Bryson, according to the SNP

I want to be a woman. –

– It’s my right as a man.

Nope, pretty sure that’s Boys according to Robert Smith…

That’s pimps.

isn’t the clue in the name?  womb-man?

You seem to have got your mother in a whirl.

I’m reminded of the classic misheard Bee Gees lyric, “four letter woman”.

So Louise isn’t a woman?

Probably best to ask what is a female, it has been defined more over the years.

With the upcoming arguments on this thread, can i just be first to say i blame Keir Starmer?

I used to be confident about answering that question but since an STW editorial piece I’ve realised that some people think men are women if they decide to be so I have no definitive answer. Don’t want to tread on any toes.

Certainly ain’t Lia Thomas

17 pages, three flounces and at least one ban.

Why did you answer then if not to ‘tread on toes’?

In answer to the OP’s question, I’m not entirely sure, but luckily thanks to the Labour Shadow Health Secretary I now know the difference men and women:

“Men have penises, women have vaginas, here ends my biology lesson.”

– Wes Streeting

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/wes-streeting-trans-rights-women-penis-b2047117.html

Whatever the answer is, asking the Section 28 generation is not going to produce a sensible answer.  But you knew that already, didn’t you?

Why not go talk to some young people (particularly young women) who have a far better handle on all this than most members of this forum.

Ernie, is Wes being (accidentally?) fairly progressive there? By his logic, once someone has transitioned and had corresponding surgery then they are the gender they transitioned to.  A woman who ‘FtM’ transitions and has surgery is a man. Admittedly it does rely on surgery as well, but it’s a start

According to Bob Marley, a woman is a person who doesn’t cry.

I think Bob was inferring that women make men cry. A lack of woman means no crying. Therefore I conclude that a woman is somebody or something that makes men cry. By this logic the movies ET and Watership Down are women.

I always interpreted ‘No woman, no cry’ to be an instruction – ‘don’t cry’

In all seriousness No Woman, No Cry is best summed up, in my opinion, by The Wailers bass player

In the song, Marley mentions the Government Yards of Trench Town, a public housing project in Kingston where he grew up. The lyrics also include references to cornmeal porridge, a popular breakfast in Jamaica.

Wailers bassist Aston ‘Family Man’ Barrett told NME in 2012: “The song is about the strength in the mama of course, strength in the ladies. And we love a woman with a backbone. Something like a wishbone!

“They have to be like a she lion! Woman strong, you know, not depending on the man. Of course the man is there to help you, then for every successful man, there is a good woman.”

before it gets too transphobic in here, remember that bigotry has consequences

Scarlet and the unnamed person in whatever that is ^^ are a right pair of despicable bastards.

A woman is a female. adult, human.

Because what ever answer I gave other than no definitve answer I would be treading on someone’s toes. On some subjects: Brexit, Putin, Trump, climate sceptics… I’ll happily express an opinion and jump on toes in ski boots with Simond Makalu crampons if people disagree. Gender – treat people as you’d hope to be treated yourself.

before it gets too transphobic in here, remember that bigotry has consequences

Sure, and it is very important to point that out. But I can’t see anything posted so far which could be seen like that. It’s mostly references to songs and a recognition that definitions have become more blurred in recent times.

Nothing wrong with that – everyone has the right to be themselves, and if they want, different.

Doesn’t talking about it freely and not treating as a taboo subject help to guarantee that it is accepted?

To be fair, I only made the Bob Marley reference as a toungue in cheek comment meant in good spirit.

Nothing wrong with that – everyone has the right to be themselves and if they want, different.

Fully agree with that @ernielynch

The most worrying ting about these kind of conversations it other dictating how others ought to think.

Is this a reference to Sunak’s comments in parliament whilst Brian na Ghey’s mother was also in the commons?

Yeah, Rishi is a ****.

I think that’s how it was taken

Edit – mattyfez/Bob Marley