Puncture prevention options on tubed tyres?

Finishing a build for my brother who wants a tubed set up (27.5 plus) as he wouldn’t cope with tubeless issues . He also seems to get a lot of punctures on various bikes and struggles a bit fixing them so I want to increase puncture resistance .I don’t want to buy different ,more puncture proof tyres so I guess my only options are some sort of liner or slime/stans in the tubes.
I’ll make sure he carries a spare tube but any advice/ ideas, alternatives much appreciated.

Those tannus liners that completely nsurround your tube look good for this sort of scenario.

https://tannus.co.uk/armour/

Don’t go with slime. It will eventually fail and it’s almost impossible to get a patch to stick.
The gunge also gets into and knackers your pump.

+1 for tyre liners.

APF

Tyre liners are the only sensible option here – don’t go slime within tubes that’s just not great. Obviously more puncture resistant tyres are the clear answer here.

Although the logic around faff with tubeless but hates getting loads of punctures with tubes = answer is tubeless to get less / no punctures. Since I’ve been tubeless on both mtb’s I haven’t had a single puncture of any description that I’m aware of. Either I’ve been incredibly lucky or everything has sealed. I mostly got pinch punctures though – so tubeless has basically cured that.

Tannus liners look good but the largest 27.5 is only 2.6 width max . Perhaps they would work with 2.8/3.00 (like he has )but simply cover less at the sidewall?

Although the logic around faff with tubeless but hates getting loads of punctures with tubes = answer is tubeless to get less / no punctures.

+1

Tubeless is only a faff if you don’t do it right. Pick a well reviewed and competent tubeless rim, tape it properly, use good sealant like Stans or Squirt Bead Lock and proper tubeless tyres that are suitable for his weight and style of riding.

Its then essentially trouble free, granted you will get punctures but they seal if you’ve got the right amount of sealant in, anything worse like a ripped tyre is just the same as a tubed setup

He either learns to fix punctures, or learns how to manage tubeless.

Easy.

I came to tubeless with zero experience and other than one experience with a particular road tyre that wouldn’t play ball I have had no issues whatsoever either setting up or maintaining. MTB in particular with lower pressure I hardly ever lose pressure even if I don’t ride for a couple of months. I use the fancy expensive tubeless valves that I have forgotten the name of which allows really easy changing of sealant without removing the tyre, which I think help, and a pump with a high pressure reservoir thingy for initial seating. Have had no punctures in 5 years of riding.

Milkit – that’s what I meant…

Why is he getting punctures ? Wrong pressure, riding alongside freshly cut hedges, twatting potholes for snake bites ?

I ride all the time with tubes and get about 3 punctures a year. I run wide rims (30mm) and use Maxxis DHR / DHF 2.35 single ply tyres with 18 – 22 psi depending where I am. I use normal Continental tubes.

Also, when he does get a puncture, does he fully check to see if he has removed the thorn, glass from the tyre before sticking a new tube in.

Month or 2 ago I was passing a bike over to my dad and wanted to minimise any trouble with punctures for him as he’s in his 70s now although still active and capable.
Through research I came across the tannus armour and took the plunge.
Just for the back. It’s very early days but in principle they seem just the job. Got one for the rear only. Btw the tyre is 27.5 x 2.8 and it’s fits fine. Still sidewalk coverage although it may be slightly less than normal below the tread due to stretching.

Last time I was in that position I just bought some pretty beefcake tyres (in fact I think they were UST construction) and just learned to ride at an appropriate pressure, 35psi ic I remember right for an 85kg rider riding 130mm travel on lots of black and double black graded stuff.

In typical STW fashion you’ve received more replies saying you’re wrong for some reason than actually answering the question you asked 🙄🙄

For some people and some use cases (Mike’s dad above, presumably the OP) tubeless isn’t the answer, and no amount of “s/he should just learn to deal with tubeless” is going to change that.

So if new tires or tubeless aren’t an option for whatever reason, then per the reasonable answers above.. in my view Slime is actually pretty good, but once a tube needs to be replaced it is unpatchable, and will need to be tossed. Tannus looks interesting, but may be overkill.

If his punctures are from objects (as opposed to pinch flats), normal tire liners might be sufficient.

Finally you might also look at thicker inner tubes. Bontrager and Kenda both do “heavy duty” tubes.

A liner is great if it is thorns, stone or glass. I don’t know who makes them anymore but panaracer used to do kevlar ones.

If it is pinch flats then just tell him to put more air in his tyres and check them before a ride.

I have the Tannus Armour in my rear tyre, granted it’s a gravel bike, so bot quite the same. It can feel a bit weird at times, which is just something to be aware of. Most road cruising I don’t know it’s there, when it gets a bit tastier, it can either feel fine, or feel like you running with a slow puncture, as you can feel the insert.

I bought it to protect against pinch flats when hitting potholes, as I had two in short order, haven’t hit a pothole since… 🤷‍♂️

Some good ideas..many thanks . My brother is simply maintenance allergic ..he wants to learn but at the age of 60 and being a busy doctor with 3 kids never seems to have time. I’ve built him up a Ramin Pinnacle 3 plus with a speedhub out back so hopefully relatively maintenance free. I could set him up tubeless but he’d be unlikely to remember topping up sealant, dealing with clogged valves etc. I’ve even put a reminder on my phone to change the Rohloff oil in a years time as otherwise it won’t get done and could invalidate the warranty. He’s ruined numerous bikes over the years with lack of maintenance but hopefully ..being about to retire will take care of this one. I don’t know why he gets a lot of punctures, assures me he checks the tyre and doesn’t seem to snakebite as keeps fairly high pressure. I like the tannus idea but was hoping to run 12psi for comfort reasons and not sure if they’d squirm too much . He only rides gently anyhow, for fitness, fresh air and fun.

Stay off pavements 99% of my punctures are from riding from my house to the station etc..In fact I can’t remember my last puncture whilst at a bike park

This morning I rode from my house to the train station hear a massive pop and get a flat and thats with DH casing and DH tubes