FWIW Bush is talking about the Iran nuclear negotiations and Israel / ISIS. Both Clinton and Bush have come out very pro Israel and saying Obama has made grave errors in dealing with ISIS, ie not been tough enough.
The Taliban didn’t exist in 1983, so why do you repeatedly post up the picture of them and Ronald Regan without showing the time machine that is just out of frame on the left ?
Is it something to do with Jimmy Cricket being a CIA plant as well as an insect ?
Cranky got a bit petty, but all told, whether by coincidence or by design, Operation Cyclone (which involved a collaborative effort between the CIA, MI6 Pakistani and Saudi intelligence among others) led to the creation of the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and eventually 9/11.
The Bush Family’s links to several other elements within the complex geopolitical web (the fallout of which continues to this day) are all but avoided by the corporate media due to their huge political and financial sway
Could be nothing, but it is odd that the Bin Laden family pulled investment out of the Carlyle Group just after 9/11.
That Al-Waleed Bin Talal (until recently, the 2nd largest stakeholder in Newscorp outside the Murdoch Family) is also heavily tied to the Carlyle Group and they own Booz Hamilton Allen (the NSA contractors who Edward Snowden worked for) gives a bit of an insight into the kind of sway they have, out of the media spotlight.
Simply discussing the policies which have been carefully honed through a vast PR machine to appeal to the masses is kinda missing out on the bigger picture.
So in summary, I’m saying:
Guess what, politicians are crooked and profit from war…
bit like the picture I posted in the 1st place
It all boils down to:
He who controls the past, controls the present;
he who controls the present, controls the future…
Pretty cutting edge, eh 😀
The good news is, I don’t profit from war, so I’m not motivated to tell you fibs
If you had listened to the speeches of his brother George you would have done – it was one of his favourite words, or at least his speech writers. Perhaps Jeb and George share the same speech writers?
Presumably George W Bush “dis-emboldened” the enemies of the United States, which explains why he left everything hunky dory in the Middle East at the end of his presidency.
The Bush family’s ties to Saudi Arabia also need closer scrutiny
Fo shizzle, though to be fair, it’s not just the Bush Family, it’s the entire western establishment (in foreign policy and intelligence, the US and UK’s special relationship has been ticking away at least since just after WW2)
Let’s not forget how on the death of the Saudi King, Prince Charles and David Cameron hot footed it over to pay their respects, despite Saudi Arabia regularly carrying out beheadings and similar barbaric punishments, along with having actively exported Wahhabism, which is the basis of the beliefs which drive Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
Then again, it’s nothing new…
^ That’s Al Waleed Bin Talal, the Carlyle Group/Newscorp dude…
But anyway, straying a bit, back to the Bush family…
I’m sure Jeb Bush will be a fine and principled leader…
Why would it be a surprise to see senior US and UK officials with Saudi’s given they are some of our closest allies in the Middle East ? Given Al Waleed rescued Citigroup from bankruptcy post the LatAm debt crises and is a very high profile investor there is a very long list of people wanting to do business with him / listen to what he’s got to say.
@JHJ given Bush will in all likelihood be the next President it gives the theorists unlimited “connected to” ammunition. You might get so excited your head explodes 🙂
Why would it be a surprise to see senior US and UK officials with Saudi’s given they are some of our closest allies in the Middle East ?
It’s not surprising but it is distasteful. The Saudis are a totalitarian regime which is deeply opposed to Western style democracy, the very thing that US and UK governments hypocritically claim to strongly support in the Middle East.
Nor is it surprising that a committed Zionist as yourself should see no problem with supporting such a brutal and repressive regime as long as it serves selfish geopolitical interests.
Yep, Bitter Lake is awesome. I watched it and Citizen Four on consecutive nights. Tbh, I wasn’t far off just giving up in general and smashing all my technology to pieces. 🙂
given they are some of our closest allies in the Middle East ?
Odd that, considering:
actively exported Wahhabism, which is the basis of the beliefs which drive Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
Would’ve thought given the extensive collaboration of the intelligence services over the years, they might have noticed that…
Anyhoo…
This gives a good idea of just how propagandized the majority of media is regarding trivialization of military exploits of allies and demonization of perceived enemies
(as mentioned in the speech bubbles a bit further up, the 1953 coup of Iran (Operation Ajax) was a joint effort between MI6 and the CIA and like the later covert dealings in Afghanistan, still has repercussions to this day)
The article I’ve linked to suggests relations between the US and Israel are currently deteriorating… if this rings true, can we expect to see a drop in the vast military aid they receive?
Are you suggesting than Iran hasn’t been involved in any attack on any other country? That chart seems to suggest that is the case. My mates son has a missing leg from the overnight improvement in the quality of explosives and tech in ieds in Iraq. Detonators in these ( the techie part) were Iranian…planted by the US to discredit Iran no doubt?
Also, I am staggered at the hypocrisy of a Bush family member criticizing somebody else’s foreign policy for “damaged relationships with our allies and emboldened our enemies”
Are you suggesting than Iran hasn’t been involved in any attack on any other country?
……….Detonators in these ( the techie part) were Iranian…
If that bizarre logic is sufficient proof to you that Iran has been involved in an attack on other country then presumably the US and/or the UK have been involved in pretty much every if not all wars and attacks on other countries for about the last 100 years or so.
There is not a single picture of the Ayatollah Khomeini with Jimmy Savile to be found on Google image search. So we have to fall back on secondary sources, guesswork and innuendo.
JiveHoneyJive – with that poster you really have reached peak fool.
< I was going to do some research for you on that there internet and point out the errors of omission and commission in the poster, but then remembered the rule about arguing with idiots on the internet >
Just as aside having seen Hillary Clinton is pledging to reform campaign finance whilst spending a record amount that Obama and Mitt Romney each spend over $1.2 billion dollars last time around on their Presidential campaigns.