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 DezB
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Ooh dear - someone in my house used a BitTorrent client the other day and I just got a telling off email from my (who-shall-remain-unnamed) provider.
Apparently, the copyright owner of one of the films "someone" downloaded a while ago, detects their material and reports you to the ISP. The BitTorrent client is still sharing the film.
It doesn't say anything about prosecutions, or whether they will follow up their email with anything like that if you break da roolz again.
Useful to know "they" ware watching.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:19 pm
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Who is watching the watchers though?


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:21 pm
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don't most people who do that kind of thing use a private VPN to avoid such things happening?


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:21 pm
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I had the same. Virgin is my isp. apparently someone downloaded sucicide squad on this day at this time using a bit torrent client in the time it took for the naan breads to cook one saturday evening. I'm appalled, it's terrible really.... imagine having to pay for films and music again after all these years?! shocking.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:23 pm
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BitTorent is still a thing?


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:24 pm
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[i]don't most people who do that kind of thing use a private VPN to avoid such things happening[/i]

I hardly, ahem, I mean, the person in my house who I don't know who it is honest guv, hardly ever downloads anything really, so didn't see that as necessary. I'm sure more frequent copyright breakers do find ways around being detected.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:25 pm
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[i] sucicide squad ... Imagine having to pay for films and music again after all these years. shocking.[/i]

I seem to recall paying about £30 to see that at the cinema. Does that mean I've already paid?

[i]BitTorent is still a thing?[/i]

No idea myself, of course. But if "someone" can download a HD movie in around 10 mins, I would say it most certainly is.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:26 pm
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No idea myself, of course. But if "someone" can download a HD movie in around 10 mins, I would say it most certainly is.

I've heard you can stream them which circumvents the law. No idea how you'd do such a thing.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:30 pm
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been standard practice for a while now, most BT clients by default are completely open so not difficult for "them" to see who is sharing their material. Depending on who you are and what you're doing legal threats could follow - afaik usual for a standard home user is "They" complain to your ISP and your ISP tell you to stop and possibly put you on the naughty step.

BitTorent is still a thing?
well streaming requires a good constant connection, so yeah, I can think of plenty of reasons for wanting a copy of the media.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:32 pm
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getting worried that I'll have to subscribe to Sky Atlantic to see game of thrones in July.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:32 pm
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I seem to recall paying about £30 to see that at the cinema. Does that mean I've already paid?

For £30 I hope you got an alternative ending....possibly of the happy variety.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:33 pm
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How vile Jamie. I took my son to the pictures with me. (we did get nice seats)


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 2:34 pm
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I've heard you can stream them which circumvents the law. No idea how you'd do such a thing.

Any chance you can scan the latest STW mag for me and email over the PDF? It's still only streaming if I read it in Gmail, right?


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:11 pm
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Any chance you can scan the latest STW mag for me and email over the PDF?

That's not a bad idea. I'd like to read STW, but not enough to pay for it. So streaming, sorry...scanning, seems ideal.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:16 pm
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Any chance you can scan the latest STW mag for me and email over the PDF? It's still only streaming if I read it in Gmail, right?

I've no idea how to do such a thing.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:18 pm
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Friend of mine got her BT internet withdrawn for streaming illegally bt sport football games


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:19 pm
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[i]I've no idea how to do such a thing.[/i]

Use your phone.
Cute that he thinks you work for the mag 😉


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:33 pm
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I've scanned my phone but I doubt it'll be much use as you can only see the outline of the phone.

I must be doing somethig wrong.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:34 pm
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BitTorent is still a thing?

Yeah, I thought that.

So, to those streaming illegal stuff because they don't want to pay for it ... tough.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:37 pm
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At the end of the day it's theft. If you get caught suck it up.


 
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I took my son to the pictures with me. (we did get nice seats)

You took your son to see Suicide Squad? Bit harsh, couldn't you just have stopped his pudding?


 
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BitTorent is still a thing?

use it every day and never had a peep out of my ISP (Virgin). Don't bother with a VPN either....


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:39 pm
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[i]tough.[/i]

What is?

[i]suck it up.[/i]

Suck what up?


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:41 pm
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use it every day and never had a peep out of my ISP (Virgin). Don't bother with a VPN either....

Ditto


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:42 pm
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https://davidmoore.github.io/ipfilter/

You're welcome.


 
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Any chance you can scan the latest STW mag for me and email over the PDF? It's still only streaming if I read it in Gmail, right?

I skimmed through it at the newsagents, not worth buying imo.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:45 pm
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If its a new, popular, mainstream film/music/etc, the corporate arm of the record label/film studio often seed their own product to catch people out.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:52 pm
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Any chance you can scan the latest STW mag for me and email over the PDF? It's still only streaming if I read it in Gmail, right?

Surely you can just download it yourself?


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:56 pm
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You're welcome.

Surely you have to ban yourself now.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 3:59 pm
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If its a new, popular, mainstream film/music/etc, the corporate arm of the record label/film studio often seed their own product to catch people out.

That's what IPfilter blocks (along with other known hostiles like malware sources).


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:00 pm
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At the end of the day it's theft.

No it's not.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:03 pm
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Then what is it then ?


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:05 pm
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Copyright infringement.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:07 pm
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[i]Then what is it then ?[/i]

I asked first


 
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No it's not.

Well yes it is.

Someone had something to sell.

You wanted that something.

You took it without paying.

The semantics of "the guy who uploaded it is the come committing IP theft, my downloading it in itself is a victimless crime" is just semantics, you've taken something without paying.

I work in TV now so may be slightly biased on this issue as illegal downloading is not helping to pay my mortgage, or buy a copy of ST (anyone want to e-mail me the e-book, it's victimless crime).


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:08 pm
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Cute that he thinks you work for the mag

I don't. Just appreciating the irony.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:09 pm
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At the end of the day it's theft.

No it's not.

Yes it is...


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:09 pm
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I don't. Just appreciating the irony.

Alanis is that you?


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:11 pm
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Still wondering what is tough and what I have to suck up.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:13 pm
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/intellectual-property-crime-and-infringement

Nothing in here about it being theft.

Stealing a bluray from a shop is theft, downloading a copy of one is copyright infringement.

I wonder why the studios and their agents are so keen to badge it incorrectly as theft.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:21 pm
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I wonder why the studios and their agents are so keen to badge it incorrectly as theft.
Because that makes it a little more real world and relateable?

But what you really seem to be saying is, you'd stop if only someone would point out to you that it's copyright infringement?


 
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Some cases of copyright infringement at a personal level such as downloading a tv show to watch, ie not selling or distributing, isn't even automatically a criminal offence, but it is a civil dispute. Pretty sure theft is however a criminal offence. So these people want to distort the law for their own financial gain.

I know which of these two I think is more serious.


 
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Freetards always think it’s ok to ‘borrow’ until it’s their IP/income/property/copyright then they start grizzling.

it’s just a film/picture/bit of music. it’s also somebodies livelihood.


 
Posted : 28/03/2017 4:32 pm
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Still wondering what is tough and what I have to suck up.

Just know it's gonna cost you £30.

it’s just a film/picture/bit of music. it’s also somebodies livelihood.

Just STW being STW. Fake Oakley threads get pulled, but talk about ripping off content and you're fine.


 
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ISP ban? What you need is a Sneakernet.

If I torrented Suicide Squad, I'd be suing for compensation from the filmmakers.


 
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