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aa is just being deliberately obtuse, all the southern hemi sides cheat and get away with much more the northern hemi sides.

From their dodgy forward passing and unbelievable illegality at the rucks to dodgy scrums.

It's our fault for not playing the same game, we need to wake up a bit.

I mean look we can even ban an AB for rucking someone's head. If that was an English player he would have had a 1 month ban, and I hardly fly the flag for England.


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 9:01 pm
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Paddies shut out Fiji, that is good going well done the men in green.


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 9:12 pm
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It's already been mentioned, but I really can't believe how many forward passes that lead to a try are allowed these days! I'm all for flowing and attacking rugby, but ffs pi passing backwards is the main rule of the game. The Aussie try didn't even look close to straight/backwards. Tom Young looked pretty lightweight in the scrum today to me too. Bring back the psycho New Zelander 🙂


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 12:00 am
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aa is just being deliberately obtuse, all the southern hemi sides cheat and get away with much more the northern hemi sides.

Ooo blesss. At least I know when Wales have been beaten by a better team.. Aus cheated no more than Englandshire did.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 1:01 am
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Go educate yourself
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s


 
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We (England) were very poor, yes their try was a forward pass but ours was a little fortunate, we didn't kick our goals when we had a chance - very strange. As my mate said, we looked like plums in that strip and we played like soft fruits too. I hope to never see that strip again.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 1:54 am
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Anyone see the argentina france game? Looked close on paper.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 8:18 am
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wonder if any of these will be cited




 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:09 am
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Biggar - Headshot. Deliberately. Citing
Hibbard - No attempt to use the arm, not a legal tackle. Citing? Not too sure...
Judo stylings? FFS, Barnes, what's the point of you? Citing.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 10:05 am
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Good to see aa finally coming round and realising just how much cheating goes on with Southern Hemisphere clubs.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 10:11 am
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Still bleating about England getting rinsed at the breakdown steve?

Flash the Hibbard one is high too I think its a red so should be cited. Have no idea what the refs are looking at these days. Will have a look on Gwlad see if the 1/2p one is up yet.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 11:55 am
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So just watching the scotland game... How was the second maul ok but the first a pen? Odd.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 12:38 pm
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Did clancy forget his card? Endless pens v sa

No he just wanted to wait until it wouldnt matter


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 1:11 pm
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my new fav non welsh player, has something of the Adam Jones about his mad eyes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20377761


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 7:03 pm
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my new fav non welsh player, has something of the Adam Jones about his mad eyes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20377761

He's got to be the most stereotypical Australian sounding guy I've heard. he answers every question with "mate" in the first few words he speaks.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 7:54 pm
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20388926 ]Cap'n Hovis - Comedy genius. [/url]

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Posted : 19/11/2012 2:24 pm
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Well he is right so long as about only 6 of them turn up, then it would be a close run thing 😆


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 2:27 pm
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So; My lot; pepetual transition, combine some good with an equal amount of crap.
Wales; going backwards, lack of props as well it would seem.
England; Can be out-thought and don't seem to be able to think on the hoof.
Ireland; dirt track bullies 😀


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 3:14 pm
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I'm going to watch the Wales AB for the sole purpose of building up ammo to discuss with AA. 😉

Its going to be a mess for Wales, Warburton is kidding himself.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 3:32 pm
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Ireland; dirt track bullies

Oh harsh!

TBH the way the IRFU have treated Fiji is awful. Not awarding caps, moving it to a backwater and sending out the B team is very disrespectful. No wonder Fiji were more interested in boxing than playing rugby, they just didn't really want to be there.

However the 'Ireland' team can only play whats in front of them and the young back line was wonderful to watch at times. But careful Deccie won't use any of them against Arg and nothing will change. I worry about how poor our forwards were against Fiji and have a worry that the Arg pack will tear us apart on sat.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 4:55 pm
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If ever proof were needed that rugby players get too many bangs to the head that Warburton interview is it.

Kryton you can build up what you like wales are a reasonable team playing badly whereas NZ are an exceptional team playing well.

Duckman it would appear no one has been cited from the samoa wales game, any views on the incidents above?

Furthermore what are we to make of Cole getting ****ed over by aus? Bit of a worry for the lions or a case of lack of support from 1 and 2?

Murray played well what days are the lions tests on. Scottish loosehead looks good too.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 6:44 pm
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Glitchery****ery


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 6:55 pm
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Come on you ban people off the board for being less annoying as this bloody glitch


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 7:00 pm
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Lions team then:

1.Jenkins
2.Hartley
3.Cole
4.Gray
5.Ryan Jones cpt
6.Lydiate
7.Croft
8.Faletau
9.Care
10.Sexton
11.Visser
12.Roberts
13.Tuilangi
14.North
15.1/2p


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 7:17 pm
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Too many welsh. Jenkins has been utter shite, Lydiate is broken, R Jones is not a Lions Test lock and Faletau hasnt looked great. Roberts hasnt been used properly so he's still a maybe. For me Flood is the best ten an Visser needs to learn to tackle and carry in traffic, he went awol in the SA game after getting hit hard early on.

1 Healey
2 Hartley
3 Murray
4 Gray
5 POC
6 erm Kelly Brown?
7 **** knows
8 That irish show pony
9 Phillips
10 Flood
11 North
12 Roberts
13 BOD
14 Bowe
15 1/2p


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 7:29 pm
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Croft at 7?

North isn't playing well imo - looking for contact instead of space.

And I'd be tempted to play Euan Murray. Should have been MOM for Scotland on Saturday.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 7:30 pm
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I was really struggling at Loose head tbh! I'm hoping that Lydiate can be mended, although hasn't he broken a leg? I was also pretty stuck at No.8.....what has happened to them all? Perhaps Mongo will get the call 🙂 Sexton is the standout 10 for me, although I'm a big Flood fan.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 7:34 pm
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Croft is broken and would be utterly destroyed by that aussie 7 from saturday much less Pocock.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 7:39 pm
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North isn't playing well imo - looking for contact instead of space.

They only seem to use him to run inside lines into traffic.
IMO, it's the players around him and the gameplan that's the problem. Even when he's in space, they can't seem to spot the pass to him. there was a classic example in the Samoa game where 1/2p had North outside him and just needed to draw a player and make a simple pass but kicked long to chase instead. Actually, can't understand this love for 1/2p with him in every team. He does some deffensive bits of the FB's job almost adequately, but offers no creativity in attack with running lines and misses overlap passes like a prop.
Wales would be better off with Lee Byrne at the mo to create a bit of space to use their big runners. then you'd see North shining again.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 7:50 pm
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Ioum, i agree but i picked 1/2p on the basis that he's better than Zebo Hogg and Goode. Foden would be my fav but I presume he's broken too. Hook might be an option for wales trying to do want Barnes does for Aus and be a second distributer out wide. That would require some sort of an attacking plan beyond giving it to North and Roberts and hope they run over someone. Makes a change from chuck it Shane and hope I suppose.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:04 pm
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Can't see Healey. Kelly Brown meh can't see him either.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:09 pm
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I'd like to see BOD go, but I've a sneaky feeling that he won't be going 🙁


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:12 pm
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That would require some sort of an attacking plan beyond giving it to North and Roberts and hope they run over someone.

If there was ever a team not to try that against, it's Samoa. You just don't run through Samoans. I heard one of them missed a tackle once, but don't really believe it.
Actually think Wales will be better suited against the Ozzies, and'll win that one. I'd like to see Hook given another chance too, he tries to play. But I think a lot of the probs are stemming from Priestland's form. They need someone to make some passes and he's not either. Roberts, North, Cuthbert, and JDavies are all great runners, but with them in the side, the other positions need to supply some variety. Even Phillips is a little bit samey (as far as scrum halve go). Hook at 10, Byrne at 15 to get the rest of the unit working.

Although fair enough with your 1/2p shout in comparrison to those others, it's clear you'd gone with players playing not out injured.

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Good news for God's prop 🙂


Sat 1 Barbarians v British and Irish Lions, So Kon Po Stadium, Hong Kong

Wed 5 Force v British and Irish Lions, Perth Oval

Sat 8 Reds v British and Irish Lions, Lang Park, Brisbane

Tue 11 Combined NSW-Queensland Country v British and Irish Lions, Ausgrid Stadium, Newcastle

Sat 15 Waratahs v British and Irish Lions, Sydney Football Stadium

Tue 18 Brumbies v British and Irish Lions, Canberra Stadium

Sat 22 Australia v British and Irish Lions, Lang Park, Brisbane

Tue 25 Melbourne Rebels v British and Irish Lions, Melbourne Rectangular Stadium

Sat 29 Australia v British and Irish Lions, Docklands Stadium, Melbourne

July 2013

Sat 6 Australia v British and Irish Lions, Stadium Australia, Sydney


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:22 pm
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Posted : 19/11/2012 8:27 pm
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contact with eyes or the eye area of an opponent
, I believe.

Nasty.

Oh, and re those tour dates above, am currently planning some vital, strategic business meetings in HK and Aus for next year. Ahem. 🙂


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:29 pm
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That one was a bit naughty wasn't it! Thinking back to that game, how good is Strauss! Take away his two tries and I'd still have him as man of the match.


 
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Posted : 19/11/2012 8:31 pm
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still shocked no Samoan has been cited.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:32 pm
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A-A; Samoa should have finished with at best 14 men. That ruck hit was inexcusable.Only watched it once,but looked like an order had been put in for a couple of Welsh heads as an interesting pair of book ends.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:38 pm
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no Samoan has been cited.

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Posted : 19/11/2012 8:40 pm
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Doesn't bode we'll for the lions front row at all when you consider what cole did to Healy. Croft is no 7, gotta be tipuric so far. Wouldn't have faletau in the test team either, mid week at best. Be tempted to keep an eye on Denton for 8 although o Brian is a fine choice. Sexton instead of flood but gat may go for experience. Not sure that Roberts merits a spot on current form although I'm stuck to say who is playing well at 12 right now.
Almost the same thing happened to me as the Frenchman on Saturday. Got stitches above my eye at the mo.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:47 pm
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nly watched it once

have a look at the gif links I posted on the last page, the tackle on Hibbard was bad too. Maybe none deserved a straight red but as a whole someone should have gone.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:50 pm
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I dont think Roberts is doing much wrong but like North its the players around him. For example Roberts has been mainly used taking the ball up direct from Phillips but they didnt run that move at all last week as they had no quick ball on the front foot. He also needs quick lineout ball off the top from the middle or back to be launched and they just chucked it to the front with slow caught ball all night.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:55 pm
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Warburton has to think that they can beat them otherwise why turn up.

He knows it is unlikely, but there is still a chance so must believe. It is a must for a sportsman.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:56 pm
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Lions front row will be fine.
OK, cole got found out this week but he'll learn from that, he's still relatively young for a prop. there's more experienced props for that position who won't get roasted in Adam and Murray.
Healy did a good job last time when he beat the ozzies. And he's a better player now too. Tight head's in safe hands. If injured, Sheridan and Gethin will be good enough.
Roberts will play better with better service. Sexton or Flood inside him and BOD outside and you'd see a different player.

edit : and one for tj on the day chunk's retired from internationals


 
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