In view of the feelings being stirred up by Save The Children US awarding Tony Blair it's Legacy award [url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/25/save-the-children-furious-charity-global-legacy-tony-blair ](link)[/url] I began to wonder- who is hated the most? I know that they both have their supporters, but who is the least popular?
Blair.
Blair as Thatcher still has some loyal fans and Blair has none
Blair. I liked Thatcher.
Blair
This'll be a fun and lighthearted thread.
I think probably Thatcher. Both hated by many but for different reasons.
We'd be better off holding the current bunch to account IMO
Blair may not have anyone who likes him, but I doubt people will be dancing on his grave in the same way they did at Thatchers funeral.
So Thatcher gets my vote.
Thatcher. She was hated by entire comunities, entire cities, because of the affect her government's policies had on the livelihoods of so many people.
Blair never stieed up such vitriol, anger, loathing.....more a mere dislike by comparison
I suppose if you quantify it in terms of number of deaths responsible, Blair's a pretty tough act to follow
I suppose if you quantify it in terms of number of deaths responsible,
oh I dont know. There's probably a lot of whippets bought it in '89
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I don't think the full extent of Blair's misgivings will be realised by the populous for many years.
I hate Thatcher more. Most definitely.
thatcher, for killing british industry and ripping entire communities and families to pieces.
hatefull spitefull woman, who took a personal pleasure in crushing the working class, imho that is.
Thatcher was great ,she brought the unions down and did loads for the country
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Blair has a lot more innocent blood on his hands, Thatcher responsible for the death of entire towns and communities. Blair at least brought in minimum wage (yes it was far too low), Can't think of anything Thatcher done to benefit anyone who wasn't like her.
I'd say Thatcher.
ton raises an interesting point
Blair ****ed foreigners and Thatcher ****ed large swathes of the UK
Thatcher was a vile creature. Blair still is.
Is there a north south split on opinion?
I do remember seeing a convoy of cops heading up the m25 during the strike.
It made me shudder. Almost like troops going off to war in some foreign land.
Almost like troops going off to war in some foreign land
What do you mean "Almost"?
I can get to France easier than I can get to the North.
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Is there a north south split on opinion?
I do remember seeing a convoy of cops heading up the m25 during the strike.
It made me shudder. Almost like troops going off to war in some foreign land.
Doubt it, the M25 didn't open until 1986. Miner's strike, 1984/85.
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Given where you live christ that Landy of yours is slow
Thatcher.Personally I've no time for either of them,but Thatcher is the only politician who's appearance on TV made me swear out loud at the telly.I even had the same reaction when Thatcher died & footage from years ago was shown on the news.They've both got blood on their hands,but IMHO Blair didn't destroy communities in this country,whereas Thatcher not only destroyed whole communities but appeared to revel in the fact.Hate's a strong word but it accurately sums up my opinion of Thatcher.
Don't call me christ in public darling
Given that they both won 3 consecutive terms in office, the data suggests they were both very-well liked by significant proportions of the electorate!
Both.
But I'm much better at despising that woman.
I've had a lot longer to practice.
Jamie - Freeloader!This'll be a fun and lighthearted thread.
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Chear up, have a clown.
Yes, but a significant proportion of the electorate are ****s!
Doubt it, the M25 didn't open until 1986. Miner's strike, 1984/85.
I can't give you specific dates but the m25 was built in sections. Godstone was open but it didn't go as far as the m3 at the time. You could do a loop from 1986.
Blair without a doubt. I don't actually have strong feelings about Thatcher, I can see good and bad in her. But Blair is a dangerous, self-serving, war-mongering lunatic who did much to create the world we live in today. If he's not insane then he's pure evil.
Thatcher here. I feel Blair fell from a path of good intentions. When he came to power I at least felt he would have endeavoured to help struggling people. Seems Thatcher had cold, heartless intent from the start.
The easiest way to settle this would be to dig her up, hang them both from lamposts and meausure the lengths of the queues for the new 'Mussolini tribute pinyata(sp?)' attraction.
Blair,was the worst, yet nobody could see it at the time
Thatcher at least fought the over powered unions. She had conviction in her actions, and bigger balls than blair !
lengths of the queues for the new 'Mussolini tribute pinyata(sp?)' attraction.
thatchers queue would be longer that all the other shyte PM's put together.
Blair. Lied to the country and has the blood of thousands on his corrupt hands.
Feels a bit like comparing two dogshits, but ...
Thatcher, I think, was pretty straight-up about being unpleasant whereas Blair has the extra little boost of promising quite a lot (to me as a leftish leaner anyway) and then turning out to be a disingenuous, grasping, Machiavellian little shit all along.
Doesn't mean she was less nasty, just that she didn't arse about justifying it with a load of platitudes; pretty much just told the nation to **** off if we didn't like it (turns out a lot of the electorate liked to be treated rough, though)
I do wonder how much of Blair's scheming was down to Campbell really - again, Ingham was a bit more old school rather than a marketing man
On balance then, if only for that toe-curling ****yness that was the "now is not a time for soundbites ..." opening gambit,
Blair, by a nose
I will always despise Thatcher and her government for what they did to the country .
I hate Blair and his lot for not fixing it,while giving me all that false hope.
Thatcher was clearly what she was, country voted for her and many were fans. Her funeral was a big deal to most - some were fans, others gloaters (he he).
No-one's going to celebrate Bliar's life.
I've always thought people who hate Thatcher aren't considering the global economic forces at work during the era, or the fact the unions were utterly out of control through the seventies. The unions are equally culpable for the pain suffered by the working class at the time.
Blair is a war criminal, Thatcher wasn't. I don't hate Blair, that's too much effort, but he deserves a day or two in court. I respect Margaret Thatcher but I admit my wifes family would string her up.
She had conviction in her actions, and bigger balls than blair !
Wouldn't be difficult.
And the only conviction I'd like to see in Blair's case is one for war crimes.
Hmmmmm, Belgrano ?Blair is a war criminal, Thatcher wasn't
(and anyway, I'd say she was fairly lucky from a global stability point of view during her tenure)
Blair was weak and I suspect he wandered into conflict because he didn't want to say no to the US (oh, and I imagine a teeny weeny monetary promise or two - national and personal. I just hope any cash he was offered personally has been mislaid just like the financial benefits to the UK have)
No issues with thatcher whatsoever...to young to vote for her at the time but I agree with alot of what she did. Lots of others did clearly as well given how long she was kept in power.
Blair is an evil self serving dog...so gets my vote.
Labour closed more pits than Thatcher did
hating Thatcher fits the class war narrative that the left continue to push, they hate Blair because he wasn't "left" enough without realising that the real crime was his lies to take the country to war and that the left failed to remove him from power before/ during/ after this
Both are flawed characters, only Blair should have been prosecuted for treason
