I think Rsyban bought them all.
#disastercapitalism #pricegouger
😀
I haven’t bought any.
Because it’s not the disease you have to worry about, it’s people - has the ****ing walking dead taught you guys nothing? 😀 we riot over KFC fried chicken reserves running low.
Medical staff in HK are threatening to go on strike now unless the government closes the border with china, its seems that even this simple task is beyond our leaders unless China says so. There were tensions against our current administration and China before, now I can see this getting worse when this blows over.
All schools are now also closed till the 2nd March with teachers and pupils moving lessons online. I've just been told not to come in on Monday but to look to work from home for another week (I'm at a large American financial firm).
On a brighter note, the trails are in great condition and theres hardly anyone around, no one wants to go out and use up precious masks.
Medical staff in HK are threatening to go on strike now unless the government closes the border with china, its seems that even this simple task is beyond our leaders unless China says so. There were tensions against our current administration and China before, now I can see this getting worse when this blows over.
You do realize HK isn't British anymore, don't you?
Pretty sure he’s in Hong Kong
Thanks piemonster, sorry stewartc.
Dr Eric Toner of Johns Hopkins, Coronavirus out of control…
You do realize China isn’t British anymore, don’t you?
Yes, very much so, the last 8 months of protest have made that very much apparent.
The news channels have got live coverage of the arrival of the evacuees plane. They're clearly very excited about the prospect of the poor sods being frogmarched into buses by people in hazmat suits. Is it just me or does all this resemble the boy with his finger in the dam? Seems to me the potential harm from the panic and hysteria this will create is greater than that from the virus?
Jam bo - thanks, that was ****ing brilliant - especially towards the end.
starbucks is closed. starbucks is never closed!!!
Valid points – I might have tied myself in knots a bit – but I reiterate that the estimated mortality rate is 15 times higher than seasonal flu in the US.
In the US, so far this season, 19 million people have been diagnosed with flu, and there have been 10,000 fatalities.
Today I was interviewed by two girls about coronavirus 😀
They asked me if I was concerned and whether it feels discriminatory ...
I told them I was concerned but yet I didn't want to wear protective clothing to work.
Told them the virus was spreading fast as the logistic was there during Chinese New Year period.
Oh ya they also asked me if I was concerned if someone were cough in a lift while I was in, my answer was that regardless of whether there was virus or not I would be concerned. 😬
Just been emailed a contracters self assessment form for Coronavirus I have to fill in before going to site next month (UK).
Basically:-
1 Have you been to China?
2 Are you ill having been to China?
3 Have you been in contact with anybody who is ill in China?
19 million people have been diagnosed with flu
I’d be asking just how they were ‘diagnosed’ with this statistic.
And if 19 million were infected were infected in the US with Coronavirus countzero, with the current estimated mortality - 380000 would be dead.
Little bit of a difference.
One is World War 2 levels of carnage and the other is not.
Just been emailed a contracters self assessment form for Coronavirus I have to fill in before going to site next month (UK).
Basically:-
1 Have you been to China?
2 Are you ill having been to China?
3 Have you been in contact with anybody who is ill in China?
I have to tell work whenever I've been within a few hundred meters of cattle - but if I've been in contact with ill Chinese students - nahhhh mate - you'll be reyt to go into the clean room.
It's not even that sort of a site.
And if 19 million were infected were infected in the US with Coronavirus countzero, with the current estimated mortality – 380000 would be dead.
Let’s not get too excited just yet. 19 million people diagnosed with ‘flu’? That’s 6% of the population; I find it to be an iffy statistic.
Upper end estimates of coronvirus infection in Wuhan are suggestive of around 75,000 cases (only 10,000 cases declared worldwide, so far) which would be around 0.7% of a dense population that is at ground zero, with no precautions being taken because they didn’t know about it. It is very unlikely to reach that infection density worldwide I would think.
Let’s not get too excited just yet. 19 million people diagnosed with ‘flu’? That’s 6% of the population; I find it to be an iffy statistic.
Lines up with the lower end of the CDC estimates.
FYI - CDC have just quarantined 200 people, the first time they have ever carried out an enforced quarantine in 50 years - they are now acting on the assumption that it will be a pandemic.
Hopefully, you are right and the infectivity rate is low and the data is being skewed.
CDC have just quarantined 200 people, the first time they have ever carried out an enforced quarantine in 50 years
And the U.K. has done the same(ish) with its 80odd repatriates. And a jolly sensible thing to do it is too, when you are bringing people back from ground zero of a new virus; I can’t really see how they could have done anything else, given that the repatriation was a political rather than a science based decision.
Hopefully, you are right and the infectivity rate is low and the data is being skewed.
I’m not right or wrong, I’m just saying let’s wait and see, it’s not quite time to fight over the last loaf of Warburtons toastie at the Co-Op just yet.
it’s not quite time to fight over the last loaf of Warburtons toastie at the Co-Op just yet.
Speak for yourself - but I'm off to hoover up every bag of twiglets I can find so I can munch away on them whilst watching the end of the world. 😛
And if it doesn't happen, well I've got bags of twiglets......win win in my book.
If the Coronavirus turns doesn't get us the Noroboris might. Atleast we did the decent thing and isolated ourselves, although I'm not sure we're ready for a dose of Mercantile Feudalism that is likely to accompany the Noroboris outbreak.
off to hoover up every bag of twiglets I can find so I can munch away on them whilst watching the end of the world.
Fair point <scurries off to buy a load of Jerk Chicken flavour sensations crisps>
Well that’s a humble brag stating people don’t fight over the Warburtons Toasties in you local Coop. Must be posh where you live.
Grannies in our local have been seriously injuring people for years, they even sharpen the points of their umbrellas 🌂 🔪
Here's a proper conspiracy for you. 🙂
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf+html
TLDR: Some unusual genome content in this coronavirus - some sequences similar to HIV 'unlikely to be fortuitous in nature'.
and where is the only BSL level 4 high security virus research facility in China? Seems coincidentally close to a certain market in a certain Chinese city.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Tangjiadun+Residential+District+%E5%94%90%E5%AE%B6%E5%A2%A9/Si+Huan+Xian+Chu+Kou,+Jiangxia+Qu,+Wuhan+Shi,+Hubei+Sheng,+China/ @30.5218692,114.1905268,11.5z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x342ea936ab988553:0x595610b555b02fe2!2m2!1d114.268551!2d30.621273!1m5!1m1!1s0x342eb68f4436c7e3:0xf4225979de861592!2m2!1d114.2542247!2d30.4082768
The paper is interesting, although flawed - will be interesting to see what else pops up as the virologists look at it.
What the actual ****....
Yeah, very interested to see if that conclusion is replicated.
https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/ews938/uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the/
Published on biorxiv (not peer reviewed).
I'm not sure what they are implying exactly, but maybe that there was genetic exchange between the coronavirus and HIV.
I do not find their analysis convincing at all. The "inserts" that they highlight are the part of the spike protein that makes contact with the host cell. You would expect those to be by far the most variable regions on the protein. They also are taking advantage of the fact that a LOT of HIV has been sequenced and their "inserts" they chose are very small. Lots of chances for false positive matches, low stringency to reject them. They also are on proteins with different functions in HIV. GP120 binds cells, but Gag is the virus structural protein that's inside the cell.
The inserts spots they chose are completely arbitrary. There are chunks that are effectively not aligned at all with the SARS spike protein, and saying this part or that one in the un-aligned stretch is the insert is arbitrary. If they had aligned with a hundred other coronaviruses you'd probably see that the regions are generally hypervariable and the similarity they used to anchor where the insert was is actually not conserved.
They ignored at least one other significant region that's very different from SARS. Why? Probably because they couldn't get a low quality match to HIV there.
I think we need to wait before we decide the Chinese have released a weaponized virus.
Just woken up with symptoms of a cold. 😱
Me too Kryton 😕
If either of you have small framed bikes I'll happily come and collect in my biohaz suit as you'll no longer be needing them...
So this is interesting because I need to - late next week - travel to the US for work. What's gong to happen if I turn up at check in with an obvious cold?
Beep beep beep... breaking news:
Australia have just banned any non-Aus citizen (plus a few other exceptions) visitors from mainland China.
New academic year starts in a couple of weeks - university of Syd was expecting about 20-30,000 new undergrads to arrive from China. Whoops.
So on the conspiracy theory front... there’s a photo doing the rounds on social media showing that written on the back of a liquid Dettol bottle, Dettol destroys Coronavirus. So it’s neither new, unknown, or indefensible.
The coronavirus family has been around for a very long time- some variants are one of the viruses that cause the common cold.
When the words "novel coronavirus" appear on the back of a Dettol bottle, that'll be a worry.
A lot of coronaviruses originate in bats, there has been an ongoing research project to identify them and to develop means to protect against them. Unfortunately, said research has been cut back since the SARS outbreak, in a typical ‘out of sight, out of mind’ mindset that humans are sadly prone to.
We don’t need stupid conspiracy bullshit trying to connect HIV with things like the coronavirus, when it’s almost certain that both are zoonotic anyway, and that there are people with an almost pathological desire to kill and eat any damned thing regardless of whether it’s worth eating!
https://www.inverse.com/science/scientists-saw-coronavirus-coming-warning-us-for-decades
I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I'm struggling to get past the fact that the scientist in that article issuing the warning about a virus outbreak of this type work in Wuhan.
I was out and about in central London today and there was a surprisingly large amount of people wearing medical face masks
Zero hedge have apparently found the culprit.
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-behind-global-coronavirus-pandemic
Quiet quiet today in the local main city and town not to far from Arrowe park,
I think we need to wait before we decide the Chinese have released a weaponized virus
”...on their own people”!
Well, it's not like they have a shortage of people and their military strategy is all about wave assaults...
Saw my first mask wearing person today in central Stockholm. A child at school. I have not checked to see whether surgical masks are generally available to people.
Sorry to bump this, but I have a question.
If someone in a quarantine area, (one of those cruise ships or Arrowe Park hospital for example) gets infected 12 days into the 14 day period, does the clock re-start for everyone else just in case they've spread it? The news items I've seen about it definitely doesn't show people individually holed up.
Here’s a proper conspiracy for you. 🙂
The conspiracy theories have already gone full swing in the far east.
Sorry to bump this, but I have a question.
If someone in a quarantine area, (one of those cruise ships or Arrowe Park hospital for example) gets infected 12 days into the 14 day period, does the clock re-start for everyone else just in case they’ve spread it? The news items I’ve seen about it definitely doesn’t show people individually holed up.
Was thinking the same, the clock should really reset
