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What about an e-berlingo? Used one can be had in budget. I know the range is shit on them - any alternatives? Petrol maybe? 

I have an E-rifter.  110 miles in winter - 180+ in summer. 

Really nice car but you do need to be aware of the range - If we go farther afield we take the diesel one . 

eg i need to go to manchester in the next 3-4 weeks . its 5 charges each way so ill be taking the diesel. 

 

 

mouse in the fuse box isnt a great thing - i suspect that might be a good place to start 

 

 


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 11:21 am
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Not 100%, but don't think it has a tank lift pump, just sucked through from the tank by the main pump - hence why they are so susceptible to any air leaks that then show up as pressure faults.

Our pinhole air being sucked in issue occured 5 hours and 400km into an Autobahn journey and died alarming as you describe with a fuel pressure fault code. German dealer didn't find the real fault and tried changing the fuel filter and it got us to Sweden then all the way back home to UK with no further issue. It was only when I did a precautionary fuel filter change back home that I hear it sucking air when I squeezed the fuel priming bulb.

I'm not saying this is definitely your issue, but get it properly checked out before throwing pumps and labour at it.


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 12:32 pm
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My Dispatch had an air leak on the Diesel priming bulb. You couldn't buy just the bulb and the whole thing was really expensive. As a work around I put a bicycle puncture patch on it and it was still fine 5 years later. Weird symptoms. Would run fine but then wouldn't start easily when hot. Noticed air bubbles in the fuel line and traced it back to the bulb. I was lucky it was so easy to find though. 


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 1:52 pm
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Wasn't an older 1.9 was it Mick those didt have lift pumps but the 1.6hdi we have now has a lift pump for sure. They self prime off the key. It's a godsend compared to the old leaky plunger on my 1.9 


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 4:44 pm
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Ohh, and to validate that, my brother just bought a new-ish Ford EcoSport.

The wet belt lasted 45 days, it's now a £8,000 paperweight.

Crikey, £8,000 for the repair😯

That repair bill is 4 times the value of my Toyota Corolla 2005. 

Online social media has many mentioning the wet belt problems with expensive fix but only mentioned around £3k to £4k fix. 

Well, I checked the cars with wet belt and lo and behold these are what I found:

Common UK Cars with Wet Belts
  • Ford: 1.0L and 1.5L EcoBoost petrol engines (found in the Fiesta, Focus, and EcoSport) and 2.0L EcoBlue diesel engines.
  • Stellantis (Peugeot, Citroën, Vauxhall, DS): 1.2L PureTech petrol engines and 1.5L BlueHDi diesel engines.
  • Others: Selected Volkswagen, Audi, Skoda, Seat, BMW/Mini, and Land Rover/Jaguar Ingenium engines.

VW Group (Volkswagen, Audi, Skoda, Seat)

  • The Engines: 1.6 TDI and 2.0 TDI (EA288/EA288 Evo diesel engine families), alongside a few select early 1.4 TSI (EA211) petrol engines.
  • Volkswagen: Golf (Mk7 & Mk8), Polo, Passat, Tiguan, T-Roc, and Caddy.
  • Audi: A1, A3, A4, A5, and Q3.
  • Skoda: Fabia, Octavia, Karoq, Kodiaq, and Superb.
  • Seat: Ibiza, Leon, Ateca, and Tarraco.

BMW & Mini

  • The Engines: 1.5-litre 3-cylinder petrol (B38) and diesel (B37) variants.
  • Mini: Hatchback (Cooper/One), Clubman, and Countryman.
  • BMW: 1 Series (118i/116d), 2 Series Gran Coupe/Active Tourer, and X1 (sDrive18i)

Jaguar Land Rover (Ingenium Engines)

  • The Engines: 2.0L 4-cylinder Ingenium Petrol (AJ200P) and Diesel (AJ200D / 204DT).
  • Land Rover & Range Rover: Evoque, Discovery Sport, Range Rover Velar, and Defender (2.0L variants).
  • Jaguar: XE, XF, E-Pace, and F-Pace. 

Guess I will stick to old car now ...


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 5:03 pm
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Posted by: thisisnotaspoon

Ohh, and to validate that, my brother just bought a new-ish Ford EcoSport.

The wet belt lasted 45 days, it's now a £8,000 paperweight.

Crikey, £8,000 for the repair😯

That repair bill is 4 times the value of my Toyota Corolla 2005. 

Online social media has many mentioning the wet belt problems with expensive fix but only mentioned around £3k to £4k fix. 

Well, I checked the cars with wet belt and lo and behold these are what I found:

Common UK Cars with Wet Belts
  • Ford: 1.0L and 1.5L EcoBoost petrol engines (found in the Fiesta, Focus, and EcoSport) and 2.0L EcoBlue diesel engines.
  • Stellantis (Peugeot, Citroën, Vauxhall, DS): 1.2L PureTech petrol engines and 1.5L BlueHDi diesel engines.
  • Others: Selected Volkswagen, Audi, Skoda, Seat, BMW/Mini, and Land Rover/Jaguar Ingenium engines.

VW Group (Volkswagen, Audi, Skoda, Seat)

  • The Engines: 1.6 TDI and 2.0 TDI (EA288/EA288 Evo diesel engine families), alongside a few select early 1.4 TSI (EA211) petrol engines.
  • Volkswagen: Golf (Mk7 & Mk8), Polo, Passat, Tiguan, T-Roc, and Caddy.
  • Audi: A1, A3, A4, A5, and Q3.
  • Skoda: Fabia, Octavia, Karoq, Kodiaq, and Superb.
  • Seat: Ibiza, Leon, Ateca, and Tarraco.

BMW & Mini

  • The Engines: 1.5-litre 3-cylinder petrol (B38) and diesel (B37) variants.
  • Mini: Hatchback (Cooper/One), Clubman, and Countryman.
  • BMW: 1 Series (118i/116d), 2 Series Gran Coupe/Active Tourer, and X1 (sDrive18i)

Jaguar Land Rover (Ingenium Engines)

  • The Engines: 2.0L 4-cylinder Ingenium Petrol (AJ200P) and Diesel (AJ200D / 204DT).
  • Land Rover & Range Rover: Evoque, Discovery Sport, Range Rover Velar, and Defender (2.0L variants).
  • Jaguar: XE, XF, E-Pace, and F-Pace. 

Guess I will stick to old car now ...


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 5:04 pm
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I recently rebuilt/replaced all my Toyota Corolla 2005 suspensions for £1.6k, with all new springs, structs, all the mountings, anti-roll item, rubber bits etc, the whole suspension related.  The car now drives brilliantly with all the necessary grip without wheel spin and increase fuel efficiency.   

Although my car is valued at maximum £2k now, it drives brilliantly except necessary maintenance of the wear and tear.  I am going to get some bodywork respray etc as the paint job looks really knacked.  Apart from that, the car drives very well.  But the road tax (VED) is £445 per year and local resident parking permit is also more expensive due to "high" carbon emission.  Apart from that I was told the Corolla engine could easily last 500,000 miles with good maintenance.   

Well, rather than replacing it with newer version etc, I am keeping it to avoid all the headache.  


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 5:13 pm
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I trust that for that money we are talking about a diesel injector pump?

Thats what finally did for my Focus, 275K and beginning to need structural rust repairs, so the next big bill was the end of the line. 

I put a large value on “better the devil you know” so if tin worm is not an issue I’d be tempted to fix it up. 


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 8:56 pm
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I've chucked £5k at a 2013 Transit camper with 130k+ miles on it in the last year 

New rear hub and wheel

Crankshaft pulley, so did all other pulleys, tensioners and belt 

Brake lines

Clutch pipes

Catalytic converter 

Rocker cover

Rear caliper 

Water pump and thermostat 

Both batteries 

Glow plugs (unnecessarily expensive as one snapped off in the block and I had to get someone out to fix it for me)

All new cills along the passenger side and fixed the sliding door someone had reversed into.

My logic was there's nothing left to go wrong now, it's all new! Needs a screenwash pump and a door handle now. It had had a reconditioned gearbox, new clutch and DMF around two years ago. 

Seemed like an awful lot of money to throw at an old van, but to get anything significantly better, say 2020 with sub 70k miles, was going to be the best part of £15k, which is money I just don't have, and as above, no point in buying something not a lot newer with who knows what wrong with it, I'll stick with what I know. Back in 2019 I got a £2.5k MOT estimate so just got rid and got this van six years old with 79k miles for £4.5k, if prices were still like that I'd be switching. Seems mad that spending twice that is now the sensible option

 


 
Posted : 26/08/2026 10:26 pm
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Ratty -  could quite well be wrong on the lift pump, and that would be a cheap and easy fix. But you definitely have this nest of plastic pipes and primer bulb on top of the engine (plus the cooler you mentioned underneath). Any leak in that lot can cause pressure issues.

Lad's 05 Berlingo, our previous 08 Dispatch and Mrs' 10 C3 Picasso all have the squeezy priming bulb shown below (All 1.6 HDI). Not sure if dad's 1.6 HDI by another name Focus has the priming bulb.

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Posted : 26/08/2026 10:50 pm
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well you had me curious- 

turns out we are both simultaneously wrong and both right .

 if you have the bosch hdi system there's no primer but there is a lift pump - i know my engine bay like the back of my hand and id be surprised if they snuck that in on me. 

IF you have a siemens HDI system theres a primer and no lift pump. 

on the 8v engines 2010-2015 it comes down to if you have 75/92 bhp or 112-115bhp. 

the lower ~BHP get the bosch system and the higher ones get the siemens 

so to the OP if you have a 112 or 115bhp berlingo - id be checking out that primer bulb first port of call.

 


 
Posted : 27/08/2026 9:44 am
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well you had me curious- 

turns out we are both simultaneously wrong and both right .

 if you have the bosch hdi system there's no primer but there is a lift pump - i know my engine bay like the back of my hand and id be surprised if they snuck that in on me. 

IF you have a siemens HDI system theres a primer and no lift pump. 

on the 8v engines 2010-2015 it comes down to if you have 75/92 bhp or 112-115bhp. 

the lower ~BHP get the bosch system and the higher ones get the siemens 

so to the OP if you have a 112 or 115bhp berlingo - id be checking out that primer bulb first port of call.

 


 
Posted : 27/08/2026 9:44 am
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