[Closed] What Would You Do?

Nice to see that most youngsters posts on here are on the side of my son. It is the world that we live in today no respect for anybody.....sod you Jack, i am alright attitude. As long as I get what I want?

To be fair, your son bought us all new iPads to back him up.

...although I have my suspicions mine's a refurb.

You havent said what happens normally. Does he spend £3/400 every year, or like just a 'token' like many others on this thread that you are sneering at?

I think you are massively over reacting.

I'm not a youngster (Far from it!) but I don't think he's done anything particularly horrendous! Decided to give his mummy his iPad and had to buy himself a replacement.

My dad once gave me a secondhand Tamiya RC car which had previously belonged to him, he had upgraded to a nitro car. I was around 10 at the time and loved it, I'm now 28 but wouldn't consider it a thoughtless gift, it was great fun and has given me a life long (well 18 year) hobby, my dad had an Rc car and thought I would appreciate it ... Simple as in my opinion, if I'd kicked up a fuss about it being his old one would t that make me a spoilt brat?

If my dad had given me a life-long RC hobby, I'd kill him if he wasn't dead already.

DezB - Member

I'm not a youngster (Far from it!) but I don't think he's done anything particularly horrendous! Decided to give his mummy his iPad and had to buy himself a replacement.

Yes, if it is "waste what, want not" but this is not the case since the 31 yr old boy does not know how to take into consideration the parents' feeling. That is wrong. No if or but. The parents (father) would not be hurt if the son bought the mum a new gift instead. Cheap or expensive.

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demonracer - Member
... Simple as in my opinion, if I'd kicked up a fuss about it being his old one would t that make me a spoilt brat?

Yes, it would make you a spoiled brat indeed. In your case it is fine because ...

1) You were 10 yr old and still under the care of the parents.

2) You did not have income and thus should be grateful of what you got from your parents.

3) It would be unwise to give you something you could not control and perhaps damage.

4) You should learn from "waste what, want not" as a kid.

5) Giving you something more expensive would damage your expectation the following year. i.e. want even more expensive ones ...

6) You should know you place.

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I think you are massively over reacting.

^ this.

Its been asked on this thread several times but OP seems to be evading the question: how much is normally spent on gifts for Christmas from son to wife?

If its normally in the £100 region, then the gift seems perfectly reasonable.

So what did your wife get your son?

monkeyfudger - Member
Do you need some advice on insults as well?

Hmm. I need to wrap this iPad carefully. If only I had a suitable iPad - shaped box handy........

[i]Yes, if it is "waste what, want not" but this is not the case since the 31 yr old boy does not know how to take into consideration the parents' feeling[/i]

Yes, this is very true. All I can say is: weird family*. And I'm out!

*I'm sure mine's weirder

A second hand iPad is very generous.

Sounds ok to me. A present is a present. No law says it must be new. I've been given loads of second hand present.

DezB - Member

Yes, this is very true. All I can say is: weird family*. And I'm out!
*I'm sure mine's weirder

It is not weird but rather overlooked as we have forgotten our way of life.

richmars - Member
Sounds ok to me. A present is a present. No law says it must be new. I've been given loads of second hand present.

You missed the point completely.

No law says you should take care of your parents or loved ones too ...

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I doubt if I'd be into cycling if I hadn't been given my big brothers hand-me-down bikes for Christmas while he got a new one.
He no longer rides bikes, whereas I do, so it just goes to show eh?
(no, me neither)

Son is a zombie maggot.

Everyone else just an oxygen waster.

OP is upset Dear Leader.

Someone must pay with bullet from Glock 53.

I've just bought myself a new bike, does that now mean that I need to keep the old one for myself and give the new one to my mother?

deadlydarcy - Member

Son is a zombie maggot.

Everyone else just an oxygen waster.

OP is upset Dear Leader.

Someone must pay with bullet from [b]Glock 53[/b].

deadlydarcy hijack alert! deadlydarcy hijack alert!

You got one wlong.

It should Glock 29 or 17, Benneli M4 and Sig Commando 552 ...

Now, beg for forgiveness and bow wholeheartedly at Dear Leader's feet. Ya, the shoe polish smell nice, ya, Clark shoes step on you.

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OP, would you be as bothered if he hadn't bought himself a new iPad?

You got one wlong.

Oh I dunno, I'm not the one who masturbates himself to sleep every night looking at pictures of guns, so you're gonna have to let that one go I'm afraid.

If I bought myself an new iPad, I'd just give my wife (or whoever) the old one, I wouldn't try and pass it off as a birthday or Christmas present - that's just tight.

deadlydarcy - Member

You got one wlong.

Oh I dunno, I'm not the one who masturbates himself to sleep every night looking at pictures of guns, so you're gonna have to let that one go I'm afraid.

Ya, Dear Leader let go once for forgiveness. Next time hard labour to teach lesson. 😈

OP is not talking about the value (cheap or expensive) of the gift but rather the gesture the son demonstrated. i.e. treating himself first rather than the mum

Nice to see that most youngsters posts on here are on the side of my son. It is the world that we live in today no respect for anybody.....sod you Jack, i am alright attitude. As long as I get what I want?

My wifes mum once replaced her 3yo Vauxhaul Corsa and decided to give the the 'old one' to her (then 19yo) daughter and her mum chose to drive around in the new one.

Simply despicable behavior! 🙄

My wifes mum once replaced her 3yo Vauxhaul Corsa and decided to give the the 'old one' to her (then 19yo) daughter and her mum chose to drive around in the new one.

Simply despicable behavior!

something with a residual value of <£100 given as a birthday gift is slightly different from a 3 year old car.

It's not about the value though is it, it's about how it made her daughter feel.

I gave my brother my no longer required but still spotless Deuter child carrier for Christmas one year. This was when they were going for circa £100 on ebay. Otherwise I'd have spent £30 or so much on him. So, it was a second hand item, which on one hand cost me nowt as I already had it, but on the other hand giving it to him cost me a net £70 or thereabouts. The only difference I can see is that the OPs son and I had different reasons for our items becoming surplus to requirements. (For the record, he was delighted to have it for his new baby). Funny thing is, when I first read the OP, I thought 'that's a bit off', but logically I can't see any real difference - I can't see how giving something away which I could have sold for £100 in my pocket is ungenerous.

Hope he erased all of his porn stash could get a bit embarrassing !!!

sod you Jack, i am alright attitude. As long as I get what I want?

If she doesn't want it I'll have it.
Not a fan of Istuff but it'll raise a few quid on ebay you ungreatfull bastard.

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yep, absolute piss take. Clearly put no thought or effort into a gift for your wife; he's just got rid of his cast offs that he'd otherwise be selling on ebay.

Probably worth having a word with him, otherwise it might become an annual occurrence everytime he decides to "upgrade."

Get him to take the ipad back and get a present with some thought and effort put into it, such as a pan set, some perfume, a debenhams voucher etc.

Gently drop it a few times then ask him to return it under warranty as it appears to be broken?

Gently drop it a few times then ask him to return it under warranty as it appears to be broken?

Or just swap it for his new one next time you're around his house.

If you at least referred to your wife as [i]my[/i] wife, you know, someone you are somehow attached to, instead of [i]the[/i] wife, you know, like an appliance, maybe your son may have learned what respect looked like from his dad?
Would have been a sight less confusing as to whose wife it was as well. Doesn't stop it being a cheap trick if he was trying to pass it off as new though...

Nothing wrong with second hand. The problem here is passing something off as new when it isn't, plus the fact its a cheap and selfish trick just to upgrade his own iPad. I'd have a gentle word that it's not really acceptable.

Sounds a bit shabby to me. I blame the parents.

I gave a relative my 2nd hand iPod touch hand me down when I upgraded. I thought they would get some use out of it and it would hardly have been worth anything on eBay. They are still using it a couple of years later. I did present it as an extra freebie they might like rather than a big important present though (even though it was actually more valuable than I would usually give).

Have a word with yourself!

My parents gave my wife and I a laptop for Christmas. My dads company was upgrading all of their laptops and he got a couple of the old ones. He knew my wife and I would make use of it, but we would not get round to buying a new one. We are over the moon with it, couldn't care less that he got it for free, or that it is a few years old. It is better than what we had (nothing), it works and has got enough programs so it fills all of our needs!

My father looked at us, and saw that we would find a laptop really useful, he got hold of one, and gave it to us! That is what counts! Or do I need to get a receipt for all present to check worth? I prefer valuing presents based on thought rather than cost!

Nothing wrong with second hand. The problem here is passing something off as new when it isn't

Is this the case? He used the box, but at no point has the OP said that he tried to pass the iPad off as new. Mind you, at no point has the OP said what they normally spend on each other at Christmas.

sc-xc - Member

Nothing wrong with second hand. The problem here is passing something off as new when it isn't

Is this the case? He used the box, but at no point has the OP said that he tried to pass the iPad off as new. Mind you, at no point has the OP said what they normally spend on each other at Christmas.

This. Lots.

OP. If you want the STW massive to sharpen their pitchforks then you need to answer the questions previously asked.

How much do you normally spend?
Did your son pass it off as new?

My father looked at us, and saw that we would find a laptop really useful, he got hold of one, and gave it to us! That is what counts! Or do I need to get a receipt for all present to check worth? I prefer valuing presents based on thought rather than cost!

Why didn't he just give it to her rather than seeing it as a opportunity to save a few quid on a Christmas present? I got myself a new tablet a couple of weeks back and gave my nephew my old one. It NEVER crossed my mind to wrap it up and give it to him as a present for Christmas.

Well, this is a sad thread..

Materialism extrapolated to disgusting levels.. How very Christmassy.. I actually feel a bit sick..
I was always taught to be grateful when given a gift, seems like the OP believes in being a total **** 😯
No wonder his son doesn't meet his expectations.. You reap what you sow

as a opportunity to save a few quid on a Christmas present?

Except without knowing how much is normally spent on presents, and the value of a second hand ipad, the son may be down a few pounds.

It's not really the value of the gift or it's 2nd hand nature that makes me think it's a bit shabby. It's more that it's a gift of little thought, imagination, care or effort. Literally something that the gift giver has deemed not worthy of their own needs and is discarding. Sure, it may be a relatively expensive gift and the OP's wife might make good use of it but I bet she would rather have received something that her son had put a little consideration into.

When I upgraded my iPad I gave my old one to my sister the only difference was I didn't try and pass it off as a thoughtful gift.

I get the feeling a few folk on here know the cost of everything and the value of nothing!

Son being a thoughtless ass imo