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 DrJ
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Non-tautological answers, please.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:20 pm
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What Is a Woman? is a 2022 American online film about gender and transgender issues presented by conservative political commentator Matt Walsh.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:24 pm
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You're a doctor, you tell us!

{I'm pretty sure I've seen you state you are not actually a doctor and i'm just kidding}


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:24 pm
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It's a trap.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:26 pm
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According to Bob Marley, a woman is a person who doesn't cry.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:27 pm
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Somebody to whom an ex-Beatle could hardly explain his mixed emotions at his thoughtlessness.

Do I win?

Thought I'd get in before the flounces/bans etc


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:30 pm
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I'm reminded of the classic misheard Bee Gees lyric, "four letter woman".


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:30 pm
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No, that's a no woman.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:30 pm
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It’s a trap.

We must know the same women.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:32 pm
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Wolfmother had this whole self identity thing nailed in their opening line.

"Woman, you know you're woman"


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:34 pm
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This is an excellent listen

Sarah Keyworth - Are You a Boy or a Girl?


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:34 pm
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According to Bob Marley, a woman is a person who doesn’t cry.

Nope, pretty sure that's Boys according to Robert Smith...


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:39 pm
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It’s a trap.

I see you're an acquaintance of Louise.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:39 pm
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Apparently it's whatever Shania Twain feels like.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:46 pm
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A giant old girl baby


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:53 pm
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Isla Bryson, according to the SNP


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 5:56 pm
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I want to be a woman. -

- It's my right as a man.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 6:01 pm
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Nope, pretty sure that’s Boys according to Robert Smith…

That’s pimps.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 6:03 pm
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isn't the clue in the name?  womb-man?


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:05 pm
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You seem to have got your mother in a whirl.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:08 pm
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I’m reminded of the classic misheard Bee Gees lyric, “four letter woman”.

So Louise isn't a woman?


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:15 pm
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Probably best to ask what is a female, it has been defined more over the years.

With the upcoming arguments on this thread, can i just be first to say i blame Keir Starmer?


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:17 pm
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I used to be confident about answering that question but since an STW editorial piece I've realised that some people think men are women if they decide to be so I have no definitive answer. Don't want to tread on any toes.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:21 pm
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Certainly ain’t Lia Thomas


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:35 pm
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17 pages, three flounces and at least one ban.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:41 pm
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Why did you answer then if not to 'tread on toes'?


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:43 pm
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In answer to the OP's question, I'm not entirely sure, but luckily thanks to the Labour Shadow Health Secretary I now know the difference men and women:

"Men have penises, women have vaginas, here ends my biology lesson."

- Wes Streeting

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/wes-streeting-trans-rights-women-penis-b2047117.html


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:46 pm
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Whatever the answer is, asking the Section 28 generation is not going to produce a sensible answer.  But you knew that already, didn't you?

Why not go talk to some young people (particularly young women) who have a far better handle on all this than most members of this forum.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:51 pm
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Ernie, is Wes being (accidentally?) fairly progressive there? By his logic, once someone has transitioned and had corresponding surgery then they are the gender they transitioned to.  A woman who 'FtM' transitions and has surgery is a man. Admittedly it does rely on surgery as well, but it's a start


 
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According to Bob Marley, a woman is a person who doesn’t cry.

I think Bob was inferring that women make men cry. A lack of woman means no crying. Therefore I conclude that a woman is somebody or something that makes men cry. By this logic the movies ET and Watership Down are women.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:54 pm
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I always interpreted 'No woman, no cry' to be an instruction - 'don't cry'


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 7:58 pm
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In all seriousness No Woman, No Cry is best summed up, in my opinion, by The Wailers bass player

In the song, Marley mentions the Government Yards of Trench Town, a public housing project in Kingston where he grew up. The lyrics also include references to cornmeal porridge, a popular breakfast in Jamaica.

Wailers bassist Aston 'Family Man' Barrett told NME in 2012: "The song is about the strength in the mama of course, strength in the ladies. And we love a woman with a backbone. Something like a wishbone!

"They have to be like a she lion! Woman strong, you know, not depending on the man. Of course the man is there to help you, then for every successful man, there is a good woman."


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 8:04 pm
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before it gets too transphobic in here, remember that bigotry has consequences

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Posted : 07/02/2024 8:10 pm
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Scarlet and the unnamed person in whatever that is ^^ are a right pair of despicable bastards.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 8:16 pm
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A woman is a female. adult, human.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 8:21 pm
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Because what ever answer I gave other than no definitve answer I would be treading on someone's toes. On some subjects: Brexit, Putin, Trump, climate sceptics... I'll happily express an opinion and jump on toes in ski boots with Simond Makalu crampons if people disagree. Gender - treat people as you'd hope to be treated yourself.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 8:22 pm
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before it gets too transphobic in here, remember that bigotry has consequences

Sure, and it is very important to point that out. But I can't see anything posted so far which could be seen like that. It's mostly references to songs and a recognition that definitions have become more blurred in recent times.

Nothing wrong with that - everyone has the right to be themselves, and if they want, different.

Doesn't talking about it freely and not treating as a taboo subject help to guarantee that it is accepted?


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 8:28 pm
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To be fair, I only made the Bob Marley reference as a toungue in cheek comment meant in good spirit.

Nothing wrong with that – everyone has the right to be themselves and if they want, different.

Fully agree with that @ernielynch

The most worrying ting about these kind of conversations it other dictating how others ought to think.


 
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Is this a reference to Sunak's comments in parliament whilst Brian na Ghey's mother was also in the commons?

Yeah, Rishi is a ****.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 8:31 pm
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I think that’s how it was taken

Edit - mattyfez/Bob Marley


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 8:31 pm
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Who cares. Live and let live.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 8:52 pm
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As far as I can make out, a good way of winding up both sides of this unfortunately polarised issue is to say "it depends on the context in which the question is being asked". So I won't say that.


 
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It depends on the context in which the question is being asked.


 
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According to Bob Marley, a woman is a person who doesn’t cry.

Nope, pretty sure that’s Boys according to Robert Smith…

Frankie Valli was a bit more specific - big boys don't cry.


 
Posted : 07/02/2024 9:33 pm
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Someone who will happily shop for curtains.


 
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