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"perhaps something that looked a bit menacing would reduce the need to actually use it. hmmmm..."
yes because no one holding a menacing looking gun ever gets shot. fact.
if you've been 'thinking about handguns', maybe you need to think about a few other things.....
leffeboy - Member
Did Browning not make some bizarre electric front shifter with split chainrings a long time ago or am I hallucinating again? ...
I've got most of one. Still trying to find the other bits. ๐
Agree with iDave.
I wonder how many people have been saved from being shot because they had a gun on them.
I've never carried a gun and I've never been shot, that's fact enough for me.
I wonder how many people have been saved from being shot because they had a gun on them.
Try some US forums. It's full of people who are convinced carrying a gun saved their lives.
I've been in a situation where I'd have sworn blind I'd have saved the lives of me and my family, had I had one. As it turns out a stiff upper lip sufficed.
Much like helmets everyone assumes they "saved your life". The reality is they probably didn't make any odds at all.
I wonder how many people HAVE been shot because they had a gun on them.
I've got most of one. Still trying to find the other bits.
epicyclo - did you ever have one working or is this a new retro project? I always wanted one at the time but the cost was a bit high
Clearly the only choice would be that of Sean Connery. A gentleman's gentleman.
Walther PPK shurely?
Weird thread to see on a uk bike forum.... ๐
I wonder how many people HAVE been shot because they had a gun on them.
Pretty sure I've seen that the stats show you are much more likely to get shot if you are carrying a gun - often with your own gun.
Looks like big Sean's gonna shoot the wardrobe lady for making him wear that gimpy outfit.
EDIT: The one with the boots, not the suit. ๐
[i]Pretty sure I've seen that the stats show you are much more likely to get shot if you are carrying a gun - often with your own gun. [/i]
some kind of aiming device sounds in order.
ive shot the dirty harry handgun last time i was in vegas. it was insanely badass. the weight of it makes you think its going to be a beast to shoot, but the extra heft helps reduce felt recoil.
also, desert eagle
leffeboy - Member
epicyclo - did you ever have one working or is this a new retro project?...
Never had the whole thing. Been watching out for ages.
I do have the crank rings though. Quite clever.
Or a Walther LP53?
Stylish. A compliment to the suit!
A compliment to the suit!
You'd need a pretty good tailor to hide the line of that barrel in a fitted DJ
The Walther LP53 wouldn't be much use in a crisis. It's a single shot, break barrel air pistol in 4.5mm cal.!
But you could actually own one...
Have nice day.
An internet profiler's dream thread.
Where can I buy that little orange number Sir Sean's wearing above? I could rock that look.
I was lucky enough to have a firearms license once pre Dunblane and know a bit about the subject, which, old school rules Revolver = reliability, Auto for flashiness but not quite the accuracy, you have to be one strong mofo to get any kind of decent grouping with those large calibre handguns.
My personal favourite was the broom handled Mauser, cool in a deadly ugly way, I once briefly owned one captured in the Persion Gulf in 1906, came with a wooden case which was also a stock. The gun was also famous as being used by young Winston Churchill, very powerful big stopping power would go through a brick wall.
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I never cease to be amazed how easy guns are to come by stateside and that girls like to go hobby shooting, (they could have used a lighter load for that poor woman who had it kick her face) it's a shame the only way we can own them over here is illegally and it's a jail sentence if you do, I still think it ought to be a basic human right to bear arms, particularly when you live in an increasingly anarchic society.
it's a shame the only way we can own them over here is illegally and it's a jail sentence if you do
Yes it's really such a terrible shame. ๐
I still think it ought to be a basic human right to bear arms, particularly [b]when you live in an increasingly anarchic society[/b].
O RLY? Stats?
Sag Sauer P226 or P220 is the handgun of choice for the armed response guys round here.
Very reliable apparently.
Guns are for pussies and people that are scared of other gun carrying pussies
EDIT Was going to say it's ok if you live in bear country but would a bear attack if someone let an air bomb off in it's face
grum - Member
it's a shame the only way we can own them over here is illegally and it's a jail sentence if you do
Yes it's really such a terrible shame.I still think it ought to be a basic human right to bear arms, particularly when you live in an increasingly anarchic society.
O RLY? Stats?
It's just my opinion chum, can't back it up with stats, but I was trusted to own one once and only used it at permitted ranges and went through the even by todays H&S standards, fairly rigorous checks and inspections of storage devices necessary to store firearms in the home, so see no reason why simply because someone went mad because he was fed up with being Scottish so decided to terminate lots of other helpless Scots, that I should be prevented from a simple pleasure and the means as an absolute last resort to defend myself or my family from early termination at the hands of some knife wielding thug.
You can't deny me that opinion, I accept you may disagree, but then I absolutely promise I'd never ever shoot your for it. ๐
to defend myself or my family from early termination at the hands of some knife wielding thug
I bet you left that bit off your FAC application.
while holidaying in maine with my sister and brother in law we stopped at an outdoor store. go upstairs my brother in law said, smiling. my god, I have never seen anything like it. Pump action shotguns, assault rifles, handguns, the lot. Crazy. people were buying them like it was nothing. quite scary if I'm honest.
someone went mad because he was fed up with being Scottish
Yep, you sound sensible enough to be trusted with firearms.
It's just my opinion chum, can't back it up with stats
I think the stats show that society is safer now than at any point in history. I blame tabloid newspapers for hyping up the fear of crime.
so see no reason why simply because someone went mad because he was fed up with being Scottish so decided to terminate lots of other helpless Scots, that I should be prevented from a simple pleasure
You could just use an air gun :shrug:
and the means as an absolute last resort to defend myself or my family from early termination at the hands of some knife wielding thug.
How many times has a knife-wielding thug attacked you and your family exactly? And again, stats show you are [i]less[/i] safe carrying a gun than not.
To be fair to derek this country is wrong to legislate for the nutters.
If someone wants to go nuts in a school and kill a load of students they could do it with some cheesewire. But then I suppose it makes the worriers feel more safe if the government blanket bans something in such a way
that I should be prevented from a simple pleasure and the means as an absolute last resort to defend myself or my family from early termination at the hands of some knife wielding thug.
Well there is the small matter that if that "knife weilding thug" thinks you have a gun then he or she will in all likelihood just bring a gun instead and shot you first.
I still think it ought to be a basic human right to bear arms, particularly when you live in an increasingly anarchic society.
I actually tend to agree with this, and if I lived in an anarchic society (lets say Somalia for example) then there is a good chance that I'd own a gun. Actually if I lived in Somlia I'd be doing my damndest to get out but that's another matter. As the UK can in no way whatsoever be described as anarchic (other than by a swivel eyed loon) then I fail to see the connection.
Didn't have a family back then, not sure I'd be totally cool with the guns I had back in those days in my family environment, but I would like to feel I'm responsible enough to own and safely store a small sidearm should needs must.
It's just another example of the State making decisions not all of us agree are sensible.
It follows the sample argument for legalising soft drugs, de criminalising the distribution of fire arms is more likely to remove them from the 'wrong' routes to market.
[i]As the UK can in no way whatsoever be described as anarchic [/i]
Look outside St Paul's at all those crustys. Bring on the guns.
I still think it ought to be a basic human right to arm bears
Really not sure this is a good idea TBH.
As the UK can in no way whatsoever be described as anarchic
Look outside St Paul's at all those crustys. Bring on the guns.
Excellent example of the kind of armchair psycho who shouldn't be allowed a gun in case it encourages their violent fantasies. ๐
My violent fantasies actually involve crossbows, acid, and rusty knives. Guns would be far more humane.
Try some US forums
Google "every day carry" for starters.
The gun thing is one of the more stark differences between here and the US. Schlepping round Wal-Mart, you've got the chiller section, the baked goods section, the electrical section, the toy section, the assault weaponry section, the freezer section, the... wait, back up one there...?
This thread would be on fire if that new playing soldiers game hadn't come out on egg box the other day
Google "every day carry" for starters.The gun thing is one of the more stark differences between here and the US. Schlepping round Wal-Mart, you've got the chiller section, the baked goods section, the electrical section, the toy section, the assault weaponry section, the freezer section, the... wait, back up one there...?
It is odd. But they don't routinely shoot each other. Which is possibly even more odd.
I stayed with an ex-pat family in Vancouver several years ago. I saw the eldest son leaving the house with a rifle case over his shoulder. As a keen airgunner at the time, I enquired what he had.
His reply rather astonished me. He held up a plastic bag full of empty beer cans and said "it's a .30-06 and I'm going plinking." ๐ฏ
I was quite happy plinking with my Original Mod. 35...
Buying a gun is a lot like making love to a beautiful woman.... Sorry, wrong thread.
You need to decide what sort of task said firearm is going to be used for. This will dictate the overall type and size of the weapon. You will also need to decide which calibre you want, based on effect and availability of ammunition.
Take the "Walking Dead" for example...
The sheriff has a .357 revolver. Nice gun with good stopping power and terminal effect, but heavy and only six shots. .357 magnum is also a relatively* rare round, so in a zombie apocalypse situation, it's likely to turn into a club after a relatively short time.
"Shane" though, uses a Glock 17 in 9mm. The terminal effect is a lot less (smaller round, much less power), but he'll have 17 rounds to use to stop the hordes (or shoot at people that are slowing him down). The round is a standard, so any zombie soldiers he shoots are likely to have that type on them.
If it were me, I'd go for an H&K USP in .45ACP. I like them, and the pistol feels nicely balanced for a large frame pistol. The recoil is also relatively mild and the effect on target is adequate. Alas, all I get to use these days are issue Browning 9mm pistols. I won't get a Sig P226 (another nice pistol) until I deploy.
That said, a pistol should never be a primary weapon. It's a means of defending yourself when you are forced to reload, or you are in a confined space where a rifle would get trapped/caught up or be of limited use. Factor in something reliable for your main weapon: M4/AR15-based or something else that is easy to source [relatively] high powered ammunition for.
Or an SLR
It is odd. But they don't routinely shoot each other. Which is possibly even more odd.
They do have massively higher gun-crime than we do though (and gun suicides, and gun-related accidental deaths) What a terrible shame it is we don't have their gun laws eh. ๐
Factor in something reliable for your main weapon: M4/AR15-based or something else that is easy to source [relatively] high powered ammunition for.
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