The Left-Right-Authoritarian-Libertarian 2D scale is quite revealing (or BS) too.
Some parties are much further left or right than you'd imagine, and indeed those that one would normally view as the middle ground are actually further left or right than those parties traditionally viewed as the left or right.
And my position on there was frankly quite worrying.
Tory as Labour ****ed up so badly they really shouldn't be given another chance to soon.
They are doing some fairly scummy things to be fair but what have labour to offer ? some thing along the lines of "we will spent even more money that we don't have ?" - actually if they said this I would be more inclined to vote for them.
Although apparently I should be voting Labour according to VoteForPolicies - oops
I'd happily vote for Dave (Again).
All pretty depressing stuff... But how would your utopian Government do things differently?
Could there actually be a proper alternative to the 2013 line up?
roger_mellie - Member
After looking at cleanerbybike's linkAnyone seen this? http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
looks like I should be voting Green, which surprised me.
Oh God..Just did that..50% BNP, 25% Cons, 25% Green. Admittedly it was done in a hurry, but I like myself rather less as a result. 🙁
I'd have kept that one quiet, LenHankie! Seriously, dude.
In recent years I've voted Green, I see no reason to change. Although I would seriously consider supporting the National Health Action party if they were targeting my local MP.
I would vote Plaid Cymru if I lived in Wales.
But if my local MP was one of those extremely rare Labour MPs who still has a [i]proven[/i] commitment to representing the interests of ordinary working people, then I to vote for them. I would never under any circumstances vote for a New Labour MP/candidate.
I think I would probably rather vote Conservative than New Labour, at least they represent more open and honest Tories than the lying cheating fraudsters who infiltrated and seized control of the Labour Party.
I got labour on that website (but thats dependent on parties sticking to their manifesto pledges)
really depends on the local candidate the last labour candidate here was voted out after her and her Hubby's 1.7million expenses faux pas
camo16 - Member
So, 35 posts in and not a single Conservative amongst us... unless I missed something.
I think of myself as a bit conservative. As in, I am interested in looking at the sources when thinking about questions, and I believe that the past should be more sympathetically considered when establishing policy in the present.
But economically, I'm a bit of a tempered free market sort of guy at the same time as I believe that the community (read: state) should take care of its most vulnerable. The state just needs to stay out of my home.
ernie_lynch - MemberI would vote Plaid Cymru if I lived in Wales.
But if my local MP was one of those extremely rare Labour MPs who still has a proven commitment to representing the interests of ordinary working people, then I to vote for them. I would never under any circumstances vote for a New Labour MP/candidate.
Respect, Ernie.
Ukip. Seeing as im a southern higher rate tax payer would normally vote Tory but they are such a bunch of sickening lefty socialists these days, no thanks.
Ukip. Seeing as im a southern higher rate tax payer would normally vote Tory but they are such a bunch of sickening lefty socialists these days, no thanks.
Got to be a wind up
As I live in call-me-Dave's constituency I'd be drawing a cock and balls on another ballot paper as there is no chance that a vote for anyone else would make any difference, but there is a very small chance that another spoiled ballot paper may be counted!!
From a personal POV the Lib Dems are slightly less unpalatable than the rest, but then I do like to go against the trend. However we do have a Tory MP who actually appears to be half decent, and last time the Lib Dems put up a self-serving career politician who's election leaflets were mainly about smearing the opposition (he also appeared to have no irony meter, commenting on the Tory candidate not being local - however unlike him she'd actually lived in the constituency for a few years) who I couldn't possibly have voted for. Oh and before you ask, any chance of me voting Labour (which is markedly higher in theory than it used to be) is somewhat scuppered by the horrific idea of Ed being in charge - in a crisis is he the man you want taking the important decisions when he doesn't appear capable of choosing which breakfast cereal to eat?
tory for me..
but there is a very small chance that another spoiled ballot paper may be counted!!
Spoiled ballot papers are counted, but there is no way of knowing whether they were spoiled deliberately or the person got confused, eg put more than one cross, scratched one out, etc.
I believe most spoiled ballot papers are not the result of a protest measure, so your ballot paper with a cock and balls will simply be counted as one more daft/confused voter. It certainly won't be instrumental in bringing down the existing political system. Still, I'm sure it'll make you feel better - and that's important 🙂
One term of the tories to save money, sack everybody and get us out of the financial mire then two terms of labour to spend the saved money on services, health care, education and benefits. This system only fails when labour is kept on for a third term! Silly silly electorate.
Still, I'm sure it'll make you feel better - and that's important
Drawing Cocks-and-balls always makes me feel better, especially on anything official/important (which is probably why it's best that I don't get too involved with politics) 🙄
EDIT: if it was up to me we'd have images like this on the front page of the Financial Times:
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Well good to see that the IMF is criticising the government for pushing austerity too far and inflicting needless pain on the economy
..kind of sums current political and economic debate up (or genuine lack of it) when....
...they are talking about a French socialist government who have really implemented austerity!!! 😉 in the end there really is little difference since politicians merely react to events around them and few have genuine strong convictions these days.
(oh and after a relatively quiet summer for the euro, a warning that Europe's debt situation is getting worse)
Did you post that comment on the wrong thread THM ? The OP asked how would you vote if there was a general election tomorrow.
I struggle with long sentences and I'm voting for Binners. 😀
I vote Anarchy
Or Binners, so long as he doesn't force me to eat at McDonalds or Greggs
Can you vote for anarchy though? It's just a stick and a low hood, plus intent to anarch, no?
None of the above and if it's anything like the last election with grinning ****in idiots outside the voting office attempting to shake my hand for their vote whilst offering promises to look after my interests then i expect i'll be asked to keep my opinions to myself otherwise leave the premises by the officers in charge or i will be charged with public disorder, Democracy?.....Ha!...that'll be ****ing right in this country.
like the last election with grinning **** idiots outside the voting office attempting to shake my hand for their vote whilst offering promises to look after my interests
If you mean outside a polling station then they were certainly in breach of electoral law.
i'd vote tory..
i'd really like to vote for a labour party that represented the views and asperations of working folk.. not middle class chattering teachers and pc hungry nursing managers but honest muckers, like the lady who cleans the chicken oven at tesco or the bloke whose now at work changing an axle on a public service bus
this country needs a reprsentative of the meek and humble the mild mannered the honest and true.
i want someone to lead not someone who goes to parliament to ask permission to tell someone off for murdering thousands with illegal weapons someone who got his job for who he/she is not someone who got in because people thought he was his brother..
dennis skinner he's the man.
if you'd truly like to vote for a representative of "genuine working folk" If such a group exists then voting tory is as far removed from this halcyon reality as possible - the sooner folk wake up and realise we do not live in a democracy the better for us all, rip it up and start again as the saying goes.
I'd vote for Veritas.
I was actually thinking about this recently, the concluson I came to was Lib Dem
Ed Balls reminds me so much of William Pitt the Younger from Blackadder.
It's all Lib Dems fault.
Voted green last time, see no reason to change this time
No Ernie, the last post was not posted on the wrong thread (but I imagined that it could be misinterpreted - it was not a criticism of Hollande per se, he has enough of that already!I was merely illustrating my previous point that there is v littleto choose between major parties in the UK or elsewhere. The right and the left are essentially doing the same thing, their policies are broadly the same and they are both reacting to events rather than leading the economic and political debate. On top of this you often have the ironical situation where parties actually do more of that their opponents would do eg Hollande's austerity package is arguably more aggressive than Osborne's. Poltitics is turned on its head! But what's new there? Reagan was one of the great spenders in the US and republicans often spend more than democrats.! The history of politics is littered with examples of XXX wingers implementing more YYY wing policies (at least in terms of government spending) and vice versa. Beware the rhetoric!
Hence the other red ED thread is relevant - isn't it time the unions formed a new party to represent their interests? The main parties are lodged so firmly in the same ground that any vote becomes largely irrelevant unless the MP is able to focus on local issues that are relevant to the individual voter.
Well that's 2 votes in the bag. Looks like I best start getting a manifesto together. They reckon George Osbourne's will offer tax cuts as an electoral bribe, but what about free sausage rolls? From the newly appointed Minister for Pies?
free sausage rolls? From the newly appointed Minister for Pies?
...but sausage rolls aren't pies. Sorry, but you've just lost my vote!
Are these Artisan Sausage Rolls?
Not fussed about Organic now some bloke on the telly said they're bad for the environment. But they need to be poncey.
* awaits vote clincher
In true ministerial gaffe fashion, is Binners' next gonna tell me Gregs sell Cornish Pasties and not "slop slices"?
Lib Dems are very constrained by being in a coalition so for that I give them the benefit of the doubt. And locally, they seem pretty sensible (and pro-cyclist).
Unlike the Tories, who are complacent and happy to concrete over the entire county. Labour is not really an option for me. I might as well just not bother voting, even though I quite like Mr Milliband.
So Lib Dem.
Change the sausage roll for a meat and tater pie and you're my guy, Binners MP!
Change the sausage roll for a meat and tater pie and you're my guy, Binners MP!
+1
This could turn out to be the most successful political U-turn ever!
Hmmmmmm. With an eye on my political future, I'm going to be pragmatic and rename the new Ministry for Pastry Products and, in my new era of inclusiveness, throw open the sausage roll option to vegetarians and citizens of all races - free pie or pasty of your choice! Made in the countries finest bakeries! From the very best ingredients!
I can't lose!
teamhurtmore - MemberNo Ernie, the last post was not posted on the wrong thread (but I imagined that it could be misinterpreted - it was not a criticism of Hollande per se, he has enough of that already!I was merely illustrating my previous point that there is v littleto choose between major parties in the UK or elsewhere. The right and the left are essentially doing the same thing, their policies are broadly the same and they are both reacting to events rather than leading the economic and political debate. On top of this you often have the ironical situation where parties actually do more of that their opponents would do eg Hollande's austerity package is arguably more aggressive than Osborne's. Poltitics is turned on its head! But what's new there? Reagan was one of the great spenders in the US and republicans often spend more than democrats.! The history of politics is littered with examples of XXX wingers implementing more YYY wing policies (at least in terms of government spending) and vice versa. Beware the rhetoric!
Hence the other red ED thread is relevant - isn't it time the unions formed a new party to represent their interests? The main parties are lodged so firmly in the same ground that any vote becomes largely irrelevant unless the MP is able to focus on local issues that are relevant to the individual voter.
It was a very direct and straightforward question, the OP asked who would you vote for if there was an election tomorrow ?
No need for a "politician type" rambling, evasive, and waffling, non-answer.
Just answer the direct and straightforward question with a direct and straightforward answer.
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Binners' U-Turn
Meat Pie, sausage roll
Come on Binners give us a goal !
