it’s an incredible beast with the 5 cyl 2.4 turbodiesel. It feels really solid, a great family car and well set up given that they’re about to get married and move to Nairn
I'm sure Volvos are nice but marrying any car just seems excessive tbh
Much to Bruce's chagrin - here's another car thread bumped to the first page.
And the reason being that our 20year old V70 estate mentioned in the first post on this thread has just passed another years MOT at zero cost.
2004 (it has its 20th birthday in a few days) , 208k miles, 1 advisory for a ball joint. Awesome car.
MrsRNP loves it (it's hers) and is used weekly for her community kitchen for collecting the food donations, wholesalers trips and taking under privileged people on holidays that wouldn't otherwise have. Not all cars are evil.
Saw this and thought of the Volvo thread...
Hehehe. I saw this featured in a Silodrome article on Flipboard earlier today, and while it’s not exactly a Volvo estate, it’s probably got a similar carrying capacity, and it’s one of the coolest old Volvos I’ve seen. It’s even nearly the same colour as some of the 850 T5 R’s
A 725 BHP V8-Swapped 1957 Volvo TP21 Radio "Command Car"
https://silodrome.com/volvo-tp21-command-car/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/automotive
Always wanted a Sugga. To park beside any random Landrover at the supermarket.
For anyone who's driven a V60 and a V90 (2020ish models), I'm expecting the V90 is comfier/more refined to drive? Like a Skoda Superb would be in comparison to an Octavia. Or is it basically the same car, just bigger?
I will be moving on from my sports car phase at some point, and want the most relaxing to drive, comfortable bike lugger I can find
I have a 2020 V60 @spicer. I can’t really answer your question having never driven a V90. Two reasons I didn’t consider it - 1) the V60 was plenty big enough for me. 2) I much prefer the look of the V60. I find the V90 just looks too long. Personal preference.
I seem to remember watching reviews comparing them on YouTube and the feeling was that the V90 was a little more ‘upmarket’ in terms of the interior but I’ve never been in one to be able to say I’d agree with that. They look the same to me in photos !
you may have to sit in a couple and see what you think
@spicer - i have a 2020 V90 and did test drive a similar age V60 - there isnt a huge amount in it, but there was/is a little more "waft" to the V90. The rear is uber comfy and spacious, not as much as the S90 which is limo esq, but good for tall people and long drives. I've got the D4 inscription+ which has lots of toys on it including the massage seats, and it is a proper mile muncher and very frugal for such a big car.
that said, i'm keen to have a long drive in the new Mazda CX80 to see how well that drives. I had a go in the CX60 pre suspension fix and it was a very nice place to be!
I've driven both, a lot. Probably 300000km in the current V60 and 100000 in the V90. I did a lot of development and design work on the SPA platform/VEA engine family.
The V90 is set up to be more long legged cruiser than the V60. Steering and suspension is calibrated to be generally softer and more compliant, it's also longer and (very slightly) heavier, which helps. TBH, i'd say that (somewhat vaguely) a V90 R-Design is on a level with the stock V60 and the V60 R-Design another step stiffer. Though, saying that, i've driven 1000km (almost) straight through in a V60 R-design with no comfort issues. It's not like any of them are harsh.
Most of the interior is pretty much identical from a what goes where/structural perspective, but different colours/trims. There are a few toys that are standard on the V90 that are cost options on V60. Or simply not available. Massage/heated/cooled seats sort of thing. Nothing earth shattering though.
FWIW, i've had 5 V60's as my personal car, 2 old shape (a pair of D3 manuals) and 3 new shape (D3, B4 and a T6 PHEV, all auto).
Ahhh thats interesting, thanks folks and @mert in particular.
I'll get out in some for test drives, seeing whats easiest to get a bike in/out of, and compare them to the competition, but thats quite useful to know
My Volvo V70 that started this thread 6years ago has started to feel it's age all of a sudden (it's 21years old now).
MrsRNP reported that the NSF wheel bearing / CV joint was making a noise on turning - I jacked it up and unrelatedly noticed the steering rack is leaking fluid. The big issue with this is I had the steering rack rebuilt 3 or 4 years ago at a decent steering specialist. He did mention it was getting a bit tired on the actual rack mechanism so it probably now needs a new complete steering rack. I know from last time that a new Volvo unit is ~£1k
The driver's seat bolster stitching has split
It has a rusty bubbly area that's coming through from near the rear bumper. I've sanded it out and applied Fertan/epoxy for now.
The wheels need refurbishing again.
Mileage is 210k with the above going to cost £1.5k - £2k ish. It feels like the old trusty faithful family dog that you know it's time might be coming to an end...........
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I’ll get out in some for test drives, seeing whats easiest to get a bike in/out of, and compare them to the competition, but thats quite useful to know
The roof is quite low in both, so it's wheels off and bikes flat across the floor in the boot. I can get my road bikes in upright if i'm feeling lucky (wheels off obviously, the boot isn't that big! And i'm not that tall).
With the seats down it'll take two biggish bikes, wheels on, plus everything for a fortnights camping.
I usually put bikes on the roof though, unless it's just me going somewhere.
Both V90 and V60 are a *lot* smaller in usable space than the V70. I've had all the kit for a 2 week training camp in spain in the boot of one of those. 2 bikes, spare wheels, tyres, all the clothes and such we needed, toolbox, workstand... and so on.
Also good to know @mert . When you say " it’s wheels off and bikes flat across the floor in the boot", do you mean the rear seats not folded? Literally just bikes in the boot? If so thats impressive!
Depends on the bike TBH.
I can get my gravelly/enduro geo road bike in or and of my "proper" road bikes, and my older XC bike with the bars rotated backwards, or the new one with the steering stopper/block removed. (and the bars rotated backwards and dropper dropped of course) but that's getting to be a bit of a squeeze, bit tetrisy. My big bikes, nope. That needs the seats down. At least the large side of the split.
Well! The car that started this thread 6 years ago is now for sale due to buying Cayenne's.
We've owned it for 16 out of its 21years and put the majority of it's 210k miles on it. I know it inside out and it's been overly maintained by myself. It's always had genuine Volvo or OEM parts and premium tyres.
Never let us down, been all over Europe in comfort. Absolutely brilliant car.
Mot till end of August, too good to scrap. PM me if anyone is interested.
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Considering I got told off by the mods for trying to give a roof rack away for free, should this not be in classifieds?
Oooft, my son would have preferred that to the Civic he bought last month! He even had us looking at a couple of Volvo and Saab estates.
Surely Pistonheads is the answer here?
Has the steering rack been sorted?
Reading the posts, it still needs done and is about £1k to fix.
So I finally joined the Volvo club. XC70 bought last month. After mistaking selling the Transporter 2 years ago we've been through an Audi A4 estate (fast, comfortable but boot not that big), Skoda Yeti (noisy and too small) and a Peugeot Rifter (seeing 'this car will not restart in 700 miles' is not ideal as to drive off the ferry in France as you head to Spain. 666 euro in Bilbao for a NOx sensor).
Absolutely love it. Never had an automatic and no going back. Makes me want to drive back to Spain.
Has the steering rack been sorted?
I might have been a bit hasty with my original diagnosis and don't think it's leaking as it's not used any fluid although the end gaitor has definitely split.
Surely Pistonheads is the answer here?
I'm trying multiple locations to try and find someone like myself that will take it on, Im too emotionally involved to scrap it or sell it to someone who's going to break it for parts. Its also got years of life left in it and seems a shame to scrap a perfectly good running car. It's got nearly new Continentals and new front brakes worth more than the asking price.
I had 3 people looking at my Exeo on the classifieds from Day 1. It sold the next day for more than I advertised it for. Good value at £12.50 for the ad.
and it's sold........to a son of a STWer!
I sorted the few things that it needed doing so hopefully it continues to be a reliable comfortable workhorse like it had been for the 14 years we've had it.
Sad to see it go. Cars aren't made like that anymore.
