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Venturi effect.


 
Posted : 26/09/2019 1:39 pm
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Having spent a large part of my life where venturing into an enclosed space meant breathing in the poisonous byproducts of smokers, I suggest I have cause.

No-one has cause for belittling people who are trying to get better. Don't be a dick.


 
Posted : 26/09/2019 1:45 pm
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Tobacco lobby has brought heavily into vaping companies. Its a nice resurgence for them although admittedly with more competition.

And no excise duty on vapes. So potential for greater profit margins.


 
Posted : 26/09/2019 2:00 pm
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how big is your dataset and what markers are you looking at?

You don't need a dataset specifically.
A little knowledge can often be enough to see one thing is better than another.
Would you rather be locked in a room with a hungry tiger or hungry rabbit?
I don't need a load of studies and data points to know which I'd choose to recommend given a binary option.

Obviously, it would be better to not have to make the choice but given a choice between something we know contains numerous carcinogens and something that contains no known carcinogens it's a bit of a no brainer.


 
Posted : 26/09/2019 2:54 pm
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Tobacco lobby has brought heavily into vaping companies. Its a nice resurgence for them although admittedly with more competition

It's a completely different market which is why they are lobbying to ban vaping whilst hedging bets to develop their own at the same time.

A few little known facts... nicotine is additive but generally in the low/mid range by itself.
Cigarette smoke however contains 2 specific byproducts (can't remember what they are right now) that increase the effect and hugely increase the addition part.
Tobacco companies are all to familiar with this which is why they have funded endless studies about nicotine addition rather than tobacco addiction.

They will also segment markets so for example if a company has a small market share of cigarettes in a geography they will push vaping, if they have a big market share they minimise vaping.

After the Gold Blend fiasco* this is normal practice in most companies that sell based on market share.

*Those who remember the Gold Blend ads... Rip off James Bond ... these ads were phenomenally successful at increasing market share for Gold Blend... almost exclusively at the expense of Nescafe original who then spent millions making their own ads with the "record seller in Brighton".


 
Posted : 26/09/2019 3:10 pm
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molgrips

No-one has cause for belittling people who are trying to get better. Don’t be a dick.

The dicks are those who impose their addictions on others.

Now let me tell you about my bicycle addiction...


 
Posted : 26/09/2019 3:45 pm
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