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I'm almost 40. To current teenagers, Oasis and Blur are as outdated as Queen was when I was their age.
I'm 44 and Queen was sill very much in date when I was a teenager.
We found a shaft whilst investigating a site earlier in the year, and I spent some time making various noises meant to resemble the theme tune along with numerous 'who's that guy...' type comments. All were met with the same slightly confused and deeply pitying stare.
Laurel & Hardy isn't really watchable any more I find. I would like to like it but can't. Abbot and Costello is even worse. The problem is the pace is just a bit too slow and drags now
Magnificent Seven though...
We are all old and out of touch with the youth. Our time has passed and all that jazz.
Does surprise me that people on their twenties haven't heard of Led Zeppelin though. I share an office with two twenty something ladies and they know classic music and film. Then again we work in the industry so not that surprising 😐
How many Youtube stars can you name?
My favourite one (not film related) was a 21 year old year in industry placement we had in 2013. Topic of Russia and WW2 came up. Student asked part way through the conversation "Who's is Stalin?". My explanation: "Well you have heard of Hitler, yeah? Good. Well he's like Russias version of Hitler, but with a bigger moustache".
This phenomenon is proving problematic in my workplace too. Lookalikes are a long running tradition, but the two newest members of the department just looked puzzled when they found photos of Eddie Munster and the original Charlie Bucket pinned up above their desks.
My 10 year old listens to queen and loves animated films from yesteryear
My 8 year old listens to ac/dc, deep purple and cream!
Most 16-21 year olds I know (I work in FE so it's quite a few) are fully conversant with old bands. Had a great conversation with one yesterday about husker du. Loads of cure & clash t-shirts being worn around the college at the minute.
The young uns get it, they just aren't prepared to like or rate things because we do.
Things are as they should be.
Talk today randonmly brought up the subject of Steve McQueen. All three of the young pups had absolutely no idea who he was. Never heard of him.
Well it seems like a blink of an eye to people our age - but its actually 18 years since he won the Turner Prize.
Only 3 years since he won his Oscar though.
The young uns get it, they just aren't prepared to like or rate things because we do.
Sure they are, there's a button for it and everything.
Lookalikes are a long running tradition, but the two newest members of the department just looked puzzled when they found photos of Eddie Munster and the original Charlie Bucket pinned up above their desks.
A - I don't know who Eddie Munster is
B - I didn't even realise I worked for you.
C- I wear the same shoes CFH
The music thing, I think is partly due to a different experience of radio (and tv, BITD)
When I was a lad, and all this was fields, Radio 1 was still in the Smashy and Nicey era and although it was the 1980s, Radio 1 was "pop" and "pop" started in about 1960 as far as they were concerned, so on Radio 1 you were as likely to hear the Beatles as you were something contemporary. Commercial and local radio was similar.
Then in the early 90s Radio 1 culled DLT and his ilk and went all "Year Zero" so da yoof were suddenly not exposed to old Fleetwood Mac alongside their New Kids on The Block.
Films I think is a similar lack of exposure but perhaps the cause is different - fragmentation in multiple channels and other non-Broadcast sources - maybe this started in the "hire a tape from Blockbuster" era - before that I'm sure I watched plenty of films because they were the ones that happened to be on.
I'm probably mid-point relative to some posters regarding the next generation - I've forced some old classics on my kids (film and music) - some has hit and some hasn't. They'd still probably go more for some new CGI anthropomorphic animal on a contrived quest than anything black and white.
But weirdly they both appreciated Fiddler on the Roof ("What's it about Dad?" "It's a three hour long musical about an impoverished Jewish community in Imperial Russia struggling with the encroachment of modern ideas and the effect it has on their way of life and traditions, set against the historical backdrop of brutal state oppression" "Is it funny?" "Yes.")
I've never seen The Sound of Music.
My particular reference to this was walking into our lab at work and the radio was playing Love Will Tear Us Apart; I commented on what a bloody good tune it was and the assembled youngsters looked at me blankly without recognition of who it was.
I then went and googled it.
37 years ago.
I iz well old
You ‘chat’ via ‘Skype for Business’ (think 21st century MSN messenger if you’re not using it now.) because it’s freer to chat than e-mail, but can be recovered later like e-mail for reference.
The millennials in my company hate Skype, they insist on using Slack.
I now have to use;
email
Skype for business
Microsoft Teams
Slack
Yammer
depending on which team I am interfacing with; some of the guys are in their 50's and wonder how I know about stuff when they seen nothing on email.
We can also age our engineers/sysadmins by platform;
Mainframe - 50's
Unix/Oracle - 40's
Windows/SQL Server - 30's
Can I download it from Docker-Hub? - 20's
I've never seen The Sound of Music.
That sentence just looks wrong.
I think a strong story in a film will still captivate a younger audience, but the suspension of disbelief is much harder with an older film when they're used to photo realistic cgi.
Probably about 20yrs ago now my oldest boys mate commented as I chucked a record on the decks "they're those massive CDs they're really ancient aren't they"
I'm the same age as the OP and of Steve McQuuen, I've seen: the car chase in Bullet (the rest of the film is pretty mleh so turned it off) and the great escape....and that's it.
Oh, I've just checked Imdb and he's been in Magnificent Seven, and I've seen that, so well done Mr McQueen, a big impression you made there...
How many Youtube stars can you name?
Fair point and I can't name any unless How it Should Have Ended, Charlie the Unicorn and Honest Trailers count. I'm guessing they don't though.
I've never seen The Sound of Music.
Me too! Only because I have an aversion to musicals though.
I also had my proudest moment as a father a few weeks ago. Mrs Funkmaster put Trolls on for Funk Jr, when they started singing he burst in to tears and covered his ears. Just like his Dad where musicals are concerned.
Look at Molgrips pretending he isn't down with the (thirtysomething) kids and hasn't heard of Donnie Darko or Jake Gyllenhaal. Bless.
Bet you've seen his sister in Secretary enough though eh?
My four year old has Mary Poppins on constantly. And all the older Disney stuff. I'm sure my missus will show her The Sound of Music when she can appreciate it. Just realised she's probably old enough for Star Wars as well.
I don't listen to the Beatles because I don't think they are all that and anything worthwhile is usually the less popular stuff (Helter Skelter). Just a band.
One of my students was wearing a Ramones T-shirt.
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He didn't have a blummin clue that they were even a band, never mind what they sounded like.
I was shocked and appalled op so I feel your pain.
My boy is 6 and he's seen the Magnificent 7!! Loves it.
he's been in Magnificent Seven, and I've seen that, so well done Mr McQueen, a big impression you made there...
Only one of the greatest show stealing acting performances ever..you are completely dead to me!!!
Its in the shaking of the cartridges befote they go in the gun or the waving of the hat or using it ho shield his eyes from the sun...genius
Re. the t-shirt thing, I remember feeling both very old and a bit narked when I realised I was seeing people wearing Nirvana t-shirts who weren't born when they were active.
Then I remembered the Hendrix t-shirt I used to own.
Poor old Kurt Cobain has been shifting t-shirts for a lot longer than he sold records, but then a lot of kids had Ché t-shirts when I was a kit in school, not one of use knew who he was.
Not bad for a 3 album, 1 hit album band from 25 years ago.
The music thing, I think is partly due to a different experience of radio (and tv, BITD)When I was a lad, and all this was fields, Radio 1 was still in the Smashy and Nicey era and although it was the 1980s, Radio 1 was "pop" and "pop" started in about 1960 as far as they were concerned, so on Radio 1 you were as likely to hear the Beatles as you were something contemporary. Commercial and local radio was similar.
Then in the early 90s Radio 1 culled DLT and his ilk and went all "Year Zero" so da yoof were suddenly not exposed to old Fleetwood Mac alongside their New Kids on The Block.
Very much this, sadly. After the 'Night of the Long Styli', when all the old pirate radio DJ's got culled, Radio 1 pretty much became a forbidden zone for anyone over twelve, and Radio 2 was still stuck in the 70's, whereas before on Radio 1 you might hear some cheesy pop stuff like Renee and Ronalta, but you'd hear Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, quite a wide variety of stuff.*
Now 6Music is playing stuff going back to the 30's and 40's, right up to new stuff that hasn't even got a record distribution deal yet, younger people stand some chance of discovering a decent history of pop and rock music, Radio 1 just seems to be one continuous Groundhog Day, where the sheer repetition of the music makes each record indistinguishable from every other.
Having to spend a good chunk of each day listening to Radio One in the team car, it's just become like aural porridge, just nothing to relieve the boredom.
Except for the odd occasion when they play Royal Blood.
What's noticeable is the number of really young people attending gigs for bands you'd never hear on Radio One, bands as diverse as The Dears and Pinkshineyultrablast, which is good to see.
*Even Radio Two play Zeppelin, Purple and more rock stuff, in among the bland pop.
Thank the deity of your choice for 6Music, I wouldn't have half the music I have without it.
Perchy, Perchy, Perchy....view this as an opportunity to school the kids. Start off with classic Van Damme, a little Segal, some Chuck Norris and finish with the Goonies. Then force them to do the truffle shuffle.
I now have to use;
Skype for business
Microsoft Teams
Slack
Yammer
You're the first person I've ever come across who uses Yammer. The traditional approach is to install it because you're told to install it, then never use it because no-one uses it.
I watched 'The Cowboys', John Wayne, the other week. Thoroughly enjoyed it! Yoof didn't even look up from the iPad.
I'm a trainer and work with lots of different companies across the country and with quite a range of experience.
Last week for the first time I had the "how old are you?" 42 "oh! You're the same age as my mum!" comment. ,:-(
Bear in mind that yoofs starting work today may never have used a phone with buttons. Or a cable. And phones with dials are things their granny has/had.
I've also had the "what's a fax?" Conversation with a graduate.
Last month a 21 year old told me that she only found out this year that she was supposed to drive in the inside Lane on motorways. She's been driving since she was 17. That worried me!
I now have to use;
Skype for business
Microsoft Teams
Slack
Yammer
I have heard of Slack and Yammer, but no idea what they are. Mind you, we don't have any yoof at work (thankfully).
Up until very recently I was the oldest person in my team (aged 39). Last year when celebrities were dying left right and centre we had weekly conversations about who it was had died. My colleagues in their late 20s/early 30s knew of most of the celebrities, but didn't know what most of them did. Those in their early/mid 20s were pretty much clueless about all of them (bar David Bowie).
The soundtrack to weekend car journeys used to be Pick of the Pops.
When I was a kid we had a VHS and 4 channels. Therefore repeats of classic films were common (think how often people moaned about Spartacus being the only thing on on a bank holiday). Now it's far too easy to avoid watching anything you know nothing about - hundreds of TV channels and TV/films on demand.
When I was a kid we had a VHS and 4 channels.
Luxury!
I'm almost 40. To current teenagers, Oasis and Blur are as outdated as Queen was when I was their age.
I'm 44 and Queen was sill very much in date when I was a teenager.
Well I'm 42 and I never liked them.
How many youtube stars can you name?
[alan partridge]Effff offfff![/alan partridge]
The thing is thats what they are .. the youth of today .
Today being 2017 not 1967 .
The difference between the yoof now and when the OP was the same age in terms of what they watch is basically that they don't have to suffer the repeats we did.
They have Netflix etc, we had 4 channels, so had to endure what 'dad was watching'.
So, they won't know who older stars are. Simples.
Pfft. My 8 yr olds have read Mein Kampf, enjoy interpretive dance and refuse to watch anything on the television in their own native tongue.
refuse to watch anything on the television in their own native tongue.
So, Teletubbies then?
😉
Fine, my kids wrote Mein Kampf, invented interpretive dance, built the moon, played bass in the Stones, directed Das Boot and their dad could beat up your dad.
An awareness of 'what went before' helps to provide some context, generally.
Only my personal opinion.
As for Cougar and his 4 channels - what about the days when it was BBC or ITV only in black'n'white and the beeb only came in one flavour........
"As for Cougar and his 4 channels - what about the days when it was BBC or ITV only in black'n'white and the beeb only came in one flavour........"
child of the sixties but I do recall that they used to have CX racing on the saturday afternoon sport
made one of the teen antigees watch bladerunner last week...well when i say watch it i mean look up from youtube occasionally
Youtube stars.... lol
Anyone with kids around 8-10 know Stampy Longnose and DanDTM.
We found a shaft whilst investigating a site earlier in the year, and I spent some time making various noises meant to resemble the theme
Haha. Did you go full-on 'CHOKAWAKA CHOKAWAKA!'? I imagine that they suspected you to be having a mental health emergency of some sort.
Next week try some
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(One thing ain't no one have today - and that's the FUNK. Mm, mm. No sir.)
I'm a bit mystified by this thread. On the one hand it seems obvious to me that children born today won't have been exposed to media from the 60's/70's and earlier for two reasons; they have more choice available to avoid doing so, and of course they weren't born then - obvious fact is obvious.
Then this:
made one of the teen... ....watch bladerunner last week...well when i say watch it i mean look up from youtube occasionally
If as a parent you let you kids be so transfixed by iPads or telly, Xbox' etc that you aren't delivering the opportunity for them to learn or be more apppriastely exposed to content or better still engage socially, that's your poor parenting. It really gets my goat that some parents seem it ok to throw an iPad in front of kids with careless abandon to shut them up, or allow them to disengage. Not so long ago we witnessed a family in a restaurant with 2 kids aged approx 5 & 3 both creating a bit of a fuss. Out came two tablets propped in front of the kids for the whole meal - ffs!
Not so long ago we witnessed a family in a restaurant with 2 kids aged approx 5 & 3 both creating a bit of a fuss. Out came two tablets propped in front of the kids for the whole meal - ffs!
Meh, in principle it's the same as pulling out the colouring books or favorite cuddly toy to distract the child. I prefer the Spanish method which is to let the kids just freely play in the restaurant - you'd probably be ranting about selfish parents not controlling their kids if they did that 😀
It really gets my goat that some parents seem it ok to throw an iPad in front of kids with careless abandon to shut them up, or allow them to disengage. Not so long ago we witnessed a family in a restaurant with 2 kids aged approx 5 & 3 both creating a bit of a fuss. Out came two tablets propped in front of the kids for the whole meal - ffs!
Sometimes the iPad/Tablet is the lesser of two evils if you want to actually be able to chat with the person you're with who isn't the child, without being pestered by the kid, moaning etc.
Just because we grew up a certain way doesn't mean modern society will
Why is the iPad any different to giving them crayons and a colouring book ?
Ones creative, controlled, expressive and allows interaction. The other induces a brain dead trance if used in the manner indescribed.