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With desantis romping in like this he looks like a sure thing for presidential candidate but it could get really ugly if it comes to desantis Vs trump for the nomination.
I'll be stocking up on popcorn to enjoy it properly
Could get really interesting if trump declares and potentially devastating for the republicans. The grass roots of the party have been inundated with election deniers and trumpists. With desantis romping in like this he looks like a sure thing for presidential candidate but it could get really ugly if it comes to desantis Vs trump for the nomination.
Not so sure, if Desantis is seen as the 'credible' candidate, and Trum just has his cult then even if the party is split 50/50 between then I can't see one damaging the other prospects. If it's Trump, then he's won before after a divisive campaign because his supporters don't care and the 'middle ground' of the Republicans hate Clinton (and Biden). If Desantis win's the nomination, then Trumps supporters are at best going to not turn out.
Don't let the "anyone but Trump" rationale obscure the fact that a lot of voters see Biden as useless.
Unless of course Trump runs as an independent, doesn’t have to take many votes to cause chaos.
And not forgetting that Trump has no love for the Republican Party except as a vehicle for his own ambitions.
Biden won because the normally disenfranchised came out to oppose Trump (who actually got more votes in 2020 than in 2016).
Yes but also 2016 had a low turnout as people refused to vote for their normal party (dems disliking Hilary for everything from alleged emails to her gender; and reps disliking trump because well, Trump) but they could still bring themselves to switch parties.
Unless of course Trump runs as an independent, doesn’t have to take many votes to cause chaos.
Hopefully he will start a new party and then sue the republicans for the right to the name since they are RINOs.
Yes but also 2016 had a low turnout as people refused to vote for their normal party
2016 did not have a particular low turnout, 2020 however was the outlier with a high turnout.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections
I'm still smirking at seeing Boebert lose in her home town. She's an insufferably obnoxious article, that one.
Sad 😂
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1590341634709131265?t=jBk_VgGeqkk2Y3w9zcgjkQ&s=19
This would also be so funny if she loses out, conspiracy theorists will go into meltdown https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1590370366228422656?t=-kJl1cd8aHLBEK4usagWVw&s=19
Don't think boebert has lost - yet - unless I've missed it.
Last I read she was 4k votes behind with, by my reckoning, about 23k votes still to be counted.
I really thought ron johnson was going to lose in Wisconsin; no doubt he'll continue blathering about stolen elections.
Great news that voters in Kentucky voted against the anti abortion amendnent.
Good to see that many trump endorsed candidates were rejected; the orange one has, predictably, been blustering again.
My prediction FWIW - he won't stand in 2024.
Great news that voters in Kentucky voted against the anti abortion amendment
I wonder if the republicans put it as a separate amendment, so they would not lose votes if it became a central issue in the party elections.
Hopefully he will start a new party
Trump United Republican NationalIndependance Party?
I see taylor greene has been re-elected; if republicans take the house of representatives she and her fellow travellers will exercise disproportionate influence as mccarthy, assuming he becomes leader, won't be able to ignore them.
If the dems lose the senate then the lunatics will definitely have taken over the asylum.
Pray for the USA.
"My prediction FWIW – he won’t stand in 2024"
The biggest winner in all this is DeSantis, flipping a purple state to deep red.
It's strange that the house is now full of MAGA nut-jobs but Trump won't be on the ticket for 2024. I noticed that some Trump supported candidates who won didn't thank or even mention him during their acceptance speeches.
I expect that many of those who Trump vouched for will be forgetting about him now that they are in office, and will line up being DeSantis, realising he has a much better chance in 2 years time.
Did DeSantis royally slag off Trump in his victory speech, or did I misunderstand the context?
Still a very tight race especially the Senate.
Counting is slowing down by the look of things.
Well, another Biden administration should put their economy in their place.
Did DeSantis royally slag off Trump in his victory speech, or did I misunderstand the context?
Cant be arsed to look through his shite in detail but its highly likely. By all accounts he wants a run at president and the question is whether 2024 or 2028. If he can undermine trump enough so he doesnt have to go head to head in 2024 then all the better for him.
Desantis is bad news, he's basically trump except he can complete a sentence.
Boebert, clawing back the votes
95% counted but just 62 votes behind!
Desantis & Trump tearing chunks out of each other would be exactly what the Democrats want to see
It'll go to a recount either way. Just the fact that she and Walker can run this close should be incredibly worrying, except the world's already mad.
My prediction FWIW – he won’t stand in 2024.
I agree. I think Trump was looking for this "red wave" as an indication that people wanted him back. I think the last thing he would want to do is stand for re-election and risk not winning.
100% agree with this. Zero chance he won't run.
https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1590531502273892352
Good thread on Fox News having a bad night.
https://twitter.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1590668594379395074
Trump endorsed candidates:
Governors: 8 of 18
Won 8
Lost 8
Still to call 3
Senators: 17 of 23
Won 17
Lost 2
Still to call 4
House Representatives: 127 of 142
Won 127
Lost 9
Still to call 6
Missing the point a bit there chewy, in the midterms, youd expect those candidates to do much better, some of those races should have been easy wins for republicans , but his picks were so polarising that many in the party are very angry that hes gifted the dems some wins even they werent expecting
Republicans now have to decide if they will back Trump for president or not, Trump himself & plenty of his supporters are petty & viscous, theyll have to deicde if they want to risk backing a loser like Trump over a winner like DeSantis, knowing that the blowback on them & their families could be pretty horrific if Trump feels he's been betrayed
Missing the point a bit there chewy, in the midterms, youd expect those candidates to do much better, some of those races should have been easy wins for republicans , but his picks were so polarising that many in the party are very angry that hes gifted the dems some wins even they werent expecting
I doubt they can predict a Marmite case to be honest.
Republicans now have to decide if they will back Trump for president or not, Trump himself & plenty of his supporters are petty & viscous, theyll have to deicde if they want to risk backing a loser like Trump over a winner like DeSantis, knowing that the blowback on them & their families could be pretty horrific if Trump feels he’s been betrayed
DeSantis might have a "clean" sweep of Florida but whether he can replicate his success all over is difficult to say. Not sure they can predict that.
Repubicans will have a headache trying to choose between Trump and DeSantis.
"DeSantis might have a “clean” sweep of Florida but whether he can replicate his success all over is difficult to say. Not sure they can predict that."
Fair point, as much as DeSantis looks like a president in waiting and would certainly appeal to those republicans put off by Trump, there's no certainty that he would connect with the rust belt voters that Trump courted so successfully.
Bot like Johnson and the red wall, there's no evidence that any of the string of conservative leaders that follow him can connect in the same way.
If I were a betting person I'd still put my money on DeSantis winning the presidency in two years time though, not least because Biden will be embalmed by then and there's no immediate replacements in the frame for the Democrats.
It might be worthwhile letting Trump have another go, after all he's only allowed 2 terms so after that he would be history anyway.
It might be worthwhile letting Trump have another go, after all he’s only allowed 2 terms so after that he would be history anyway.
Yes, I agree to let Trump have another go to see what he can/cannot do.
If I were a betting person I’d still put my money on DeSantis winning the presidency in two years time though, not least because Biden will be embalmed by then and there’s no immediate replacements in the frame for the Democrats.
Not sure why DeSantis are in a hurry considering he is still young. He should wait. Why stick his neck in while the economy is tumbling down? Trump will be much better in dealing with the economy crisis.
It might be worthwhile letting Trump have another go, after all he’s only allowed 2 terms so after that he would be history anyway.
Are you nuts?!?! You want Trump to be President again?? Haha. And if by some nightmare Trump did get in, I wouldn't put it past him/GOP trying to remove the 2-terms limit or install a puppet like Putin did
Trump lost last time. Since that election he has tried to burn the US Democratic system to the ground. You think the independents will vote him in next time????
Yes, I agree to let Trump have another go to see what he can/cannot do.
The only difference between you and me chewkw is that I'm joking.
Boebert, clawing back the votes
95% counted but just 62 votes behind!
I liked the bit on The Newsagents today saying the Reps were looking forwards to a majority of 20 or 30 but look set to only get 5 or 6.... and they're hoping its 5. I think even many of the zanier republicans would happily see the back of Boebert, especially so if their majority is very slim.
The only difference between you and me chewkw is that I’m joking.
I thought you have become a Trump supporter. LOL!
Gubernatorial.
There’s a word I hope I never hear in any sphere of British politics.
Well prisons have governors, as does the Bank of England, so you might.
Has Murdoch decided to ditch him?
Yeah, I think it's on CNN, the Murdoch empire is going all in with DeSantis now.
So, keep the ladies barefoot and pregnant?
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1590680637945806850
Looks like remaining senate votes in arizona and nevada are favouring democrats so...potentially, very good news.
As for kari lake, the trump wannabe contending for the arizona governor's seat, how I hope she loses; then we'll get the full trump playbook - which she's already rehearsed...voting machines, questionable counting, voting fraud, other conspiracy bollocks.
If she wins, will she question the validity of the vote?
So, IMO, dems likely to control the senate - with or without Harris's casting vote - and GOP to win the house with a majority of no more than 7; that will be a real headache for mccarthy - if he becomes house leader - as he will then be beholden to the freedom caucus and their lunatic views.
Democrats projected to retain control of the senate
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-control-senate-abc-news-projects/story?id=92681603
CBS projecting that Katie Hobbs (D) will beat kari lake to be next governor in Arizona.
Wait for lake to turn up the volume on election fraud and the rest of the trump playbook.
according to Trump it was a rigged electron! 😀