What the mods do need to remember when doing what I would consider 'over moderation" is that loads of folk post on here whilst at work. They don't always have time to think over their posts so at times they may come across the wrong way but unintentionally.
Regarding leaving the forum then I'm sure if there was a 'close account" button the stats may be up. It's not terribly easy to close your account, is it?
As I am sure you are aware I report* but I have no idea what you think of it as i never get a reply so i dont really know what you are after tbh. Some guidelines perhaps?
True we don't reply, well rarely, that's because it takes more time and sometimes leads to arguments. Essentially the guidelines are the forum rules. We do review them although not always straight away and miss the odd one, also sometimes decide that there was nothing to answer for are the post is left.
dont censor f e c k !!
That was discussed for months, the decision was it was being used far too often as an insult and in bad context so it had to go.
What the mods do need to remember when doing what I would consider 'over moderation" is that loads of folk post on here whilst at work. They don't always have time to think over their posts so at times they may come across the wrong way but unintentionally.
Yes but it's very hard for us to judge that.
It's not terribly easy to close your account, is it?
It's impossible.
I visit this site every day. My post CPU t has gone down dramatically over the last couple of years, not because of over modding, but because the same 10 or so boring voices railroading each thread. A couple have gone, and I already see some lame attempts for new wannabes to fill their slots (so to speak). Cressers seems to have decided to make a play for the limelight over the last couple of days.
I love reading the threads, but zone out when it turns into a battle of the egos, so am glad that some have had their necks wound in.
I'm also annoyed by the petty transparent trolls, and would request that any new troll identities are flagged with the original username, just so we could see who is deliberately trying to create a negative atmosphere.
Sites don't really like to have "closed accounts" when selling advertising. I've been trying to close my Adult Friend Finder account for about a month now.
I've been trying to close my Adult Friend Finder account for about a month now.
I wondered where you'd gone.
^ CPU t = count. Bloody phone
I report* but I have no idea what you think of it as i never get a reply so i dont really know what you are after tbh. Some guidelines perhaps?
Yeah that's a point actually. Just a "thanks, we've had a word" or "nah, that's not offensive ya blouse"
am I the only person to report their own post which i have done twice
How exactly did you manage that, given there is no Report Post link on your own posts??
Incidentally,
How does one become a moderator? I'd entertain the idea if you need more, I'm certainly around often enough.
How exactly did you manage that, given there is no Report Post link on your own posts??
He emailed us.
Yeah that's a point actually. Just a "thanks, we've had a word" or "nah, that's not offensive ya blouse"
Noted on the thanks.
Moderation gone mad, people labelled on the basis of some office dwellers opinion based on a forum posting which is not always able to communicate the correct emotion or meaning as it doesn't contain other elements of human communication (ie physical expression)
Bad idea, invasion of freedom, inappropriate judgement, insulting.
If it happens, kiss my subscription goodbye, your mag isn't worth all that.
I knew I would have to explain
i used the post above mine and said it was mine
the two were I called Pete Towshend an offensive name for a sex offender - i forget what exactly and the forum started debating the legality of this so i let the mods know. i think the post was unchanged
I also posted this picture - I still have the e-mails saying its ok - during the last great crack down
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EDIT: Yes I think I did e-mail the later one actually 😳
As GrahamS says just some yes that is what we want no that is ok would do as we all know the rules but we often debate their meaning.
I am sure some would expect a chat with you over it but I dont I just want to be helpful/responsible community user
[url= http://www.phased.co.uk/index.php/mtb-forum-guidelines.html ]I classified STW users way back..might still work?[/url]
Incidentally,How does one become a moderator? I'd entertain the idea if you need more, I'm certainly around often enough.
Ninjas visit you at night. It's no secret known the ST lot for years now after becoming friends with them, that's kind of how I was recruited. I think it's more of being recruited rather than volunteering, I may be wrong though.
Thank you for the several relevant comments. I'm sensing a vibe of no interest in the option, or at most something completely vague. I have noted your other comments. I'll wait for the day crowd to chip in.
For those who don't understand the issue behind the scenes, the moderators block a large number of spammers, trolls, bots, and others every day. These normally have a pattern. For example a new account from Asia or Tor posting a thread about dresses at 6am containing a link to their site in their first post is a likely candidate for a swift ban. Someone who only posts 'hello' in random threads is also probably up to no good. The moderators are right to want to identify them even before they're reported.
This thread however, is merely a request for suggestions for some fun or informative labels, if you want them.
Just like at Cambridge. History prof tapped me up for MI5.
Now I assassinate northerners for a living. It pays well.
This thread is absolutely ****ing retarded
^^^^mod material^^^^^
Still on stabilisers
Wobbly
Rides no-handed
God of Gnar
I still think tags are a good idea.
slainte ❓ rob
First they came for the Trolls,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Troll.
Then they came for the Big Hitters,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Big Hitter.
Then they came for those of a tory/conservative bent
and I didn't speak out because I'm not a tory.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
This thread is absolutely **** retarded
Thanks for your feedback.
It's a community and communities rely on the members pointing out anything they're worried about.
There's a good few members pointing out that the ban hammer may have been swung a bit too enthusiastically lately. To be fair, there's also been a good bit of support for it too.
But it seems the mods/admin only want to hear one side of that discussion.
Personally, I'd like to see some sort of amnesty with those swatted given another chance. IMO, 10 years is too long, but a month or two is still a decent deterrent to being silly.
IMO, 10 years is too long, but a month or two is still a decent deterrent to being silly.
Sadly this has proved to be unsuccessful.
Personally, I'd like to see some sort of amnesty with those swatted given another chance. IMO, 10 years is too long, but a month or two is still a decent deterrent to being silly.
As a relative newcomer here I figure that there's always more loudmouths to fill the void.
What about user-settable flags? We could have check boxes.
Road / HT / Bouncy
Helmet
Left wing / Liberal / Right wing
Conspiracy theorist
Atheist / Christian / minority religion
iPhone / Android
Windows / Mac / Linux
Alternative therapies
... and so on. Would save a lot of time.
Whilst I like the lack of extra faff around the post, a single tag to replace 'Member' could work.
How about providing a user with a selection for them to choose their own from? Tags available and number of choices could be defined by your criteria - more choice for more established members say. Bespoke choices could be added for the 'spoon wrangler' etc.
Sadly this has proved to be unsuccessful.
Track first / second / third offence and give out exponential bans accordingly. Accrued strikes can expire over time.
Bagsy the tag 'Photoshop Bully'! \o/
The fact that this is necessary is a bit 😯
How about messaging the offenders with some kind of warning - could be automated or typed to suit...
[i]Personally, I'd like to see some sort of amnesty with those swatted given another chance. IMO, 10 years is too long, but a month or two is still a decent deterrent to being silly.[/i]
But how do bannings work? Can the banned user not just set up a new account with a different email address?
And as for returning after a two month ban, is it really that important to some people that they would count down the days until their return. I'd forget about it after a few weeks.
[u][b]loum[/b][/u] - [u][i]Crocodile Fighter[/i][/u]
When do the tags start?
Fun/quirky tags by forum users names doesn't seem to suit this forum and the mentalitly of how it is run. On other forums i use they do add to the banter and slightly childish humor/ribbing that goes on, most of which is already frowned apon on here.
Would doubling each ban not work that way they are forced to take a break...perhaps you could reset it if you take this up ...at least for the person who suggested it
For me the bans and the warnings do work as i try to stop
From the mods point of view they fact they do still have to give me a gentle reminder/nudge is probably proof they dont work.
People like GW deserve a tag as very little they say has any actual merit and they just wants a reaction- I dont see why he has stayed tbh
Can the banned user not just set up a new account with a different email address?
the BH would be spotted for their style in a short time IMHO
others would be fine i guess
Would doubling each ban not work that way they are forced to take a break...perhaps you could reset it if you take this up ...at least for the person who suggested it
Not for everyone it doesn't.
Anyway back on topic what do people think of titles and suggestions?
Off for some kip.
A system of being thanked for posts and being helpful can work quite well. The detailing world forum has this in place and you have a stat next to your user name displaying for example..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Newark, Notts
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 8 Posts
and also a piss take title for how many posts you have which in the case of STW could be.. boardman, gnarly dude, Singlespeed magnum, big hitter, banned again.. etc etc
and also a piss take title for how many posts you have which in the case of STW could be..
Maybe that could be implemented for rules transgressions. If a ban isn't effective for some people, maybe having a user description of "argumentative shithouse" for a couple of weeks might work.
Anyway back on topic what do people think of tags
honestly think it's a divisive and gash idea, but I'm an infrequent user and minnow in the sea of Singletrack so my opinion will rate as much lower than those that have the ear if the mods. 😀
IIRC I was banned for asking about an Audi, no reason given, no apology given either and I'm still in the dark as to why the ban happened.
Is asking about Audis a rule transgression? Seems a bit strong to me.
Everything I say here has some merit.
Or carrying on Cougar's idea, a little more detail on the "trigger topic" to allow the community to assist them with rehabilitation. 😉
political argumentative shithouse ,
religious argumentative shithouse ,
wendyball argumentative shithouse ,
nuclear argumentative shithouse ,
Long travel steel frame argumentative shithouse.
to assist them with rehabilitation
you see, that's all a bit "thought crime" and 1984 for my liking.You can't expect everyone to get along in a happy consenting utopia and just "vanish" those that dissent or send them to the ministry of re-education.
or you can, but you will end up with bland, stagnant mess, where there is limited discussion and in jokes become so introverted that it's even less appealing to newcomers.
I think you should introduce a "dead pan" smilie (the irony!)
Some users take some posts a bit to literally. Come on, its only the internet, not real life. Its all a big laugh really.
I mostly come on here to tell the truth (most dont want to hear it though) and give helpful advice, I dont want to get a bad name for myself.
i like some of the tag suggestions and think some fun options would be a boost.
i would also like a couple of extra categories for users.. 'Bikes Stolen' 'Bikes Found' 'Tyres' plus a 'member since' and 'post count' would be good.
a 'like' and 'dislike' button would also be useful.
However, i suspect from the tone of the admins/mods already on this thread that its a foregone conclusion that there will be no changes, in case a delicate flower flouncemails the admins.
how 'bout a trial of some of the suggestions then get some feedback?
press the 'like' button if you agree*
*oh shit, you can't.
I like the idea of tags/nicknames.
What the moderators see remains undisclosed.
Though I presume you can find out what they've labelled you with? Data Protection and all that...
