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i've told him to text you his address, once he's sent it to you its prob worth reminding him of those instructions again lol


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 12:44 pm
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ooh, I didn't realise that TSY.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 12:45 pm
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So, [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoa ]quinoa[/url] ..... in or out?


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 1:44 pm
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In. It's a [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein ]complete protein[/url] and not really a grain.

Also, I never realised, it's pronounced [url= http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/knowhow/glossary/quinoa/glossary.mp3 ]Keen-wah[/url].


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 1:53 pm
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One thing on the distance alarm... I'd set it for a length or half a length early as mine tends to tell me I've done 100m at abotu 115.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:25 pm
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This thread has got boring now

๐Ÿ˜ฅ


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:26 pm
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Also, I never realised, it's pronounced Keen-wah.

Can you find one for chorizo, British pronunciation is really getting on my nips!! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:27 pm
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This thread has got boring now

Thanks for your entertaining input ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:27 pm
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Can you find one for chorizo, British pronunciation is really getting on my nips!!

[url= http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/knowhow/glossary/chorizo/glossary.mp3 ]Here you go.[/url]


 
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Posted : 19/04/2012 2:32 pm
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BBC sez yes. So ner!


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:33 pm
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[url= http://es.forvo.com/word/chorizo/ ]http://es.forvo.com/word/chorizo/[/url] ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:34 pm
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I did look at that page, but couldn't direct link the sound files. So facked it orf.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:37 pm
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insightful. ๐Ÿ˜›

thinking of doing ultra (30miles) in the autumn. Mad? I think I should take about 7 hours, need food and drink. (that's the bit I'm going to struggle with)


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:40 pm
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Amelia - you should be aiming for faster than that with your running credentials! That wouldn't be much more than a walk!


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:45 pm
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There's a bloke at my running club, and he reckons 10min/miles when doing ultras, and then there's breaks and a bit of walking!!


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:47 pm
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He sounds like a wimp.

What speed would you run a marathon?


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:49 pm
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No idea my lovely. I did 15 miles in just under 2 hours about a month ago.

I'd be happy with anything under 4 I think.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:58 pm
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I managed 63 miles over mountains on goat tracks in 18 hours, on 5 weeks training, so you should be under 5.5 hours surely emsz, being quick and miniature in size?


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 2:59 pm
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[i]under 5.5 hours surely emsz[/i]

*faints*


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 3:01 pm
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I did 15 miles in just under 2 hours about a month ago.

So why do you need 5 hours to run the next 15?


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 3:03 pm
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Given the size/weight of Emsz, I reckon a strong head/tail wind could +/- several hours.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 3:05 pm
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Hmmm... this brings the thread back around to who is most aerodynamic combined with power to weight ratio question?


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 3:07 pm
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Because i'm pretty sure I can't run 30 miles at 7.5min/miles, that's why!! LOL

never thought about anything like this before, not even sure I can do it, so I thought I'd set myself a target of 6 hours for running/walking, and rest periods every so often. I'm only racing myself


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 3:09 pm
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Course you can you fanny.

6 hours is much better and definitely beatable for you IMO.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 3:10 pm
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Glitch


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 4:04 pm
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[b]Day 3[/b]
Breakfast: soft boiled egg, bacon
Dinner: salad bag plus bean salad pot plus chorizo plus celery sticks dipped in houmous
Tea: home-made meat loaf with broccoli and cabbage

Both of us drinking a [i]lot[/i] more water than usual, but still being thirsty. Normal?


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 7:28 pm
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mike - apparently it is. Something to do with liver functioning and processing fat. Not a bad thing though really, water seems to be allowed on most diets.

21.8 mph for the morning commute today, still had enough left in the tank to do another 5k of sprint intervals.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 9:24 am
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this brings the thread back around to who is most aerodynamic combined with power to weight ratio question?
That would be me, since you haven't been tested ๐Ÿ˜›

What's everyones training for the weekend? I'm planning to see if i can hang onto the fast chaingang tomorrow, then on Sunday a 20mile ride out to a 22mile mountain time trial and then 20mile ride home. Not sure i'm expecting a good time in the MTT with all of that planned, esp as my legs don't seem to have fully recovered from the weights i did on Wednesday ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 9:58 am
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Thing is Dirty... it was you and Mol I was referring to. My answers are found out on the bike.

Ummm. This weekend.

Swimming at lunch.
2 hrs of weights on way home.
Early mtb blast at Chicksands sat am for some awesome dualcross action.
Run in the afternoon.

Then... if weather's looking bad I'm going to get drunk on Sat night and do some intervals and gym on Sunday.

If it's good I'm going to do approx 150k in the White Horse Challenge.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 10:03 am
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it was you and Mol I was referring to
Well, i know my stats, all we need is to agree the finer details! You really should get tested too.

when is the Tri that you are doing and Mol's doing the bike leg bit?


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 10:11 am
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10th of June. I think I'm going to have to enter more later in the season as I think I can be fitter, more efficient, in 3 months or so.

Have you read any stuff on Mark Allen's heart rate based training?

Not sure if it's old hat or whether 12 weeks of 'pootling' really could be the key to superior fitness.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 10:25 am
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Emsz... you ran 15mile in 2hours and think you could do 26.2 in under 4 ( and I reckon you could, easy)... that leaves 4 miles to "run" at a 15min/mile pace to do your ultra in sub 5 hours.

( I thought an ultra was 60Km ?? )

TSY.... Haven't read the Allen book, but I've "pootled" for months since last summer until feb this year... I think it works after getting a 1:30 1/2 in the middle of march, having been now where near running sub 7min/mile for any great distance in training.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 10:47 am
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I just found a link to his site last night and it was discussing the same training he used to do for IronMan.

One of his athletes dropped from a 5:30/pace to over 8 mins when exercising at the target HR, yet after 3-6 months at 154bpm had got his pace back to 5:30.

Much more efficient at burning fat too apparently.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 10:57 am
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The Maffetone method?

I've got a 2/3/4 race in worcester this sunday. Should be interesting.

am finding it much harder actually getting into road races this year. They seem to be really oversubscribed. I applied for a race for the end of May in the 1st week of March and i haven't been accepted.

have got lots of crit races planned inbetween but really want to hit the road races this year


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:02 am
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Yep, Phil Maffetone? You tried it?

Do you race at Castle Coombe at all Tricky?


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:07 am
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nope.. just read a bit about it.

yes.. planning on doing most of castle combe and bath races

You should come along


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:11 am
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Yep planning on entering some of them... it's about an hour and 20 min from my office so doable in an evening. What sort of pace should I expect??


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:20 am
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What's the bath race tricky?

What sort of pace should I expect??
Last women's crit i did, average pace was 36kph with max of 50kph sprinting on the flat, then men's i believe was a few kph faster than that for the average.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:25 am
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Thanks Dirty... what duration? What cat?


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:28 am
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Was a women's crit so open to all cats, 45mins + 5 laps. Men's was 1 hr + 5 laps iirc with slightly faster pace.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:33 am
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LOL - how long (distance or time) is a lap then?


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:38 am
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Yep planning on entering some of them... it's about an hour and 20 min from my office so doable in an evening. What sort of pace should I expect??

Can depend massively.. Very easy to stay in the bunch though

[url= http://connect.garmin.com/activity/89792396 ]26.3 av from last year[/url] (but equally has been 23-24

2 races

e/1/2 and a 3/4


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:46 am
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Very easy to stay in the bunch though

For you ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 11:56 am
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So......Interval Training.

I had my first spin on the road bike with a HR monitor. 2.4km loop with a 0.7km long climb at 8.6% gaining 73m. Am training for a very long multi-day mtb ride with endless climbs which I think I'm going to be doing at 70-80% maxHR. Did the climbs in that zone, felt comfortable, did 10 laps.

Question is should I be upping the HR to 85-90% when I'm doing these or should I stick to the zone I'm going to be climbing the big mountains at in the summer? I guess I get more out of my training if I beast myself right?


 
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