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My Mrs has received a letter from Tesco, accusing her of parking in their car park from 07:40 and 16:25 on a particular day. She works from 8:30 – 17:30, and was at work on that day. She’s shown me the letter, so the question is what are the STW massif’s thoughts and suggested next steps?


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:34 am
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ignore it


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:35 am
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is there a fine or something?


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:35 am
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uplink: What if its correct and she was there ?

Junkyard: Just a bollocking


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:37 am
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ignore. Or pay for how much you feel you've inconvenienced them. Which is about £2 for parking plus £1 costs.


 
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How did they get her address?


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:37 am
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Pook : What if she was there, and is lying to me about it?? Get the point?

GrahamS : Good question


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:39 am
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She's seeing that guy from Tescos again, isn't she. Don't let her talk her way out of it like she did last time.


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:40 am
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Is your question really "I suspect the missus is bullshitting me...what are my next steps?"

EDIT: Ok, just seen what you've said after I wrote the above. Well, I dunno, what are your thoughts. If you believe she was at work then ignore the letter.

You're not trolling now are you?


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:40 am
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Don't trust your wife G? ooh interesting......


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:41 am
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Does Mrs G work for Tescos?


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:42 am
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Her car has been cloned by a compulsive shopper.


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:44 am
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If they are wrong tell them that they are mistaken, they've either noted the reg down wrong or something else is amiss. Tell them its in their interest not make mistakes like this in future and see what happens next.

You'll then discover that contrary to what you believed your wife leads a double life actually works in Tesco, and they are writing to her to give her a bllocking for a) parking in the customer carpark rather than the staff carpark and b) bunking off over an hour early.

In that case you'll have a new moral morass

edit: blimey you have to type fast on this forum sometimes


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:45 am
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You need to confront your wife. What she is doing in that car-park while she is meant to be at work is not the issue. It's the lack of trust that will destroy your relationship.

(Although she's probably giving hand relief to sailors, and it's obviously not going well or she could afford to pay the parking charges.)


 
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(Although she's probably giving hand relief to sailors, and it's obviously not going well or she could afford to pay the parking charges.)

FRED!


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:50 am
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Tesco are into everything now, even starting a business as divorce solictors. They do of course need to build an available market that knows where to park.

"That's 2 packets of sausages and a seperation, do want cash back?"


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:51 am
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it's obviously not going well

Indeed, mind you I find doing the same for sailors in the Waitrose carpark pays much better - it's obviously the officers shopping there. Much cleaner pants too.


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:52 am
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I can't make out if this is serious or not... but I'll bite. So let's work this through. You've been married to your wife for... how long? And you think that it's more likely she parked in Tesco's for 9 hours straight one day than that either a) she stopped in Tesco's on the way into work and then on the way home again and they figured she'd been there all day b) someone's cloned your reg plate or c) they're just plain wrong.

But seriously, ignore it. As the letters get more threatening, carry on ignoring them/ writing back to say it clearly wasn't you. At some point either Tesco will have to show proof or your wife will admit she parked the car there all day. Solved


 
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Of course, what he's really upset about is having to admit that his wife shops at Tesco. He tells all his friends she only ever goes to Waitrose.


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 10:56 am
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Well the way I see it is this. Firstly, no I'm not trolling, this is true, I could post the letter on here, but I am a bit reticent to give you lot the details.

I do trust the old girl, besides at our time of life if someones hitting on her I could hardly blame her for taking advantage, despite Grumms assertions, I'm not a hypocrite, so it would only be fair after all ...... 😉

However, a less trusting couple or one that was having troubles could be totally blown by this sort of thing. She definately wasn't there at those times, she was at work..... apparently 😯 gulp...

Not worried about parking fines or any of that old guff, but the "what were you doing there" thing is quite serious.... surely?


 
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As mentioned, I'd be more concerned about whether someone is driving round with your missus' reg no. stuck on their car OR that Tesco have written the number down wrong & they are pursuiing the wrong person.
And how have they got your address details from just the reg. no. Does the DVLA dish this kind of stuff out to all and sundry?

Do they just have the reg. no. or a description of the car?


 
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I'd be very concerned if I were you.

You think you've been eating well, but the reality is you've been on a diet of Tescos blue stripe value foods, and now all those E numbers are making you paranoid !!!


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 11:06 am
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Right I've now scanned the letter to a TIF file and can email it, can't put it on flickr, coz I'm too thick, but if anyone genuinely thinks I'm trolling I'll sen d you a copy.

They have the car reg, no make details, and they have obviously got our address via the DVLA. I think the car parking wallas do this routinely nowadays though.


 
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despite Grumms assertions, I'm not a hypocrite, so it would only be fair after all

this seems to imply you've strayed...


 
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Just got this joke by email and it seemed topical in the circumstances. . .

Tired of constantly being broke & stuck in an unhappy marriage, a young husband decided to solve both problems by taking out a large insurance policy on his wife with himself as the beneficiary, and then arranging to have her killed.

A 'friend of a friend' put him in touch with a nefarious dark-side underworld figure who went by the name of 'Artie.'

Artie then explained to the husband that his going price for snuffing out a spouse was £5,000..

The husband said he was willing to pay that amount, but that he wouldn't have any cash on hand until he could collect his wife's insurance money.

Artie insisted on being paid at least something up front, so the man opened his wallet, displaying the single £1 Coin that rested inside. Artie sighed, rolled his eyes, & reluctantly agreed to accept the £1 as down payment for the dirty deed.

A few days later, Artie followed the man's wife to the local Tesco Super Store. There, he surprised her in the produce department & proceeded to strangle her with his gloved hands & as the poor unsuspecting woman drew her last breath & slumped to the floor.....

The manager of the produce department stumbled unexpectedly onto the murder scene. Unwilling to leave any living witnesses behind, ol' Artie had no choice but to strangle the produce manager as well.

However, unknown to Artie, the entire proceedings were captured by the hidden security cameras & observed by the store's security guard, who immediately called the police. Artie was caught & arrested before he could even leave the store.

Under intense questioning at the police station, Artie revealed the whole sordid plan, including his unusual financial arrangements with the hapless husband who was also quickly arrested.

The next day in the newspaper, the headline declared ..

(You're going to hate me for this .... )

'ARTIE CHOKES 2 for £1.00 AT TESCO!'

Oh, quit groaning!
I don't write this stuff,
I receive it from my warped friends and then send it on to you.


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 11:19 am
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The letter is a try on. Write back saying she wasn't there and ask for some proper proof - just for your amusement as ther is absolutly nothing they can do.

then ignore them


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 11:22 am
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People who clone cars don't normally travel around the same area - although there's some seriously dim people around so who knows?

Don't Tescos use those sensors in the parking bay & then send someone out to take the details if it overstays? - I'm sure I've heard of those going wrong big time

FWIW - I'd still ignore it, I wouldn't get into any sort of dialogue with the parking enforcement company


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 11:24 am
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On a serious note G,

this happened to a friend of mine - was accused of abusing parking in the town LIDL.

Someone was wandering around with her number plate though as the vehicle make and colour recorded were nowhere close to a match.

If Tesco is making a case against you, they need to prove that you car (i.e. make and colour) was there, not just your number plate.

Hope that helps...


 
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The letter is a try on.

I suspected a con too, but for what? The OP says there is no fine, "Just a bollocking"


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 11:25 am
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Weird isn't it.

Incidentally I've now emailed the scan to zokes and tankslapper who may well be more computer literate than me, so at least they can confirm that I'm not trolling....... (don't know whatever made you think that 8O)

What actually winds my handle about this, is that I do actually know people who would be wondering what the hell was going on with their partner if they received one. I will admit that it did go through my mind, until I'd thought the thing through for a while, and decided that it didn't stack up that way.

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despite Grumms assertions, I'm not a hypocrite, so it would only be fair after all

this seems to imply you've strayed...

And your point is SFB?


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 11:33 am
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I take Graham S's point. Why not write to Tesco asking them to prove who they are? If TESCO's can not prove who they are (photo ID card, blood sample, DNA test, retinal scans - the usual stuff) then threaten to the case to the police for impersonating a retail giant.


 
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I'm not sure why any of this is an issue. THey moaned she was parked there. She wasnt parked there (or was, but you have bigger problems then) so write back and say you were not parked there, they are wrong and there's sod all they can do about it if it were true anyway. End of story. Next cuppa.

As to how they get your details - they ask the DVLA. Shop near my old place used to have cameras that monitored you in and out of the car park, staying longer than 2 hours got you a £30 fine sent out automatically. But there wre signs all over that car park saying you could only stay 2 hours and there would be a fine etc etc


 
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And your point is SFB?

no point - I just thought it a surprising admission...


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 12:37 pm
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Go back and question Tesco. Say your wife and car was elsewhere, can they give more details/prove? Say you'll shop forever more in ASDA and hopefully they'll try and blag you with a free chocolate bar at the least for the concern.

If Tesco are serious to follow it up, can your wife prove she was at work? Clocking in or colleauges?


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 12:46 pm
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We left our car at Tescos for over a week whilst on honeymoon earlier this year, as it was very close to the station we use to get to the airport. And it's free.
No problems at all, and there were no signs I could find saying we couldn't do this.
🙂


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 12:48 pm
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Go to tesco, demand to see the manager, tell him that your wife couldn't possibly have been there at the time because she was at the clap clinic getting jabs for her dose.
Watch his reaction.


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 12:57 pm
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[url] http://www.flickr.com/photos/28317159@N07/3697887784/ [/url]

Its taken a while, but hopefully you can see the letter here.

The point of all this is not about her doing wrong by Tescos, its Tescos' doing wrong by her.

As above its a very small step from this to one where at the very least some deep suspicion is being cast upon some totally innocent party for being somewhere they weren't. So while these ****ers are keeping an eye on us, who is keeping an eye on them? Why do they have a right to access information that I don't from the DVLA? In simple legal terms they have no greater right to that than I do.


 
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ignore the letter, pretend thats the end of it but hire a private eye to track MrsG's movements...


 
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Why do they have a right to access information that I don't from the DVLA? In simple legal terms they have no greater right to that than I do.

IIRC anyone can get that info from the DVLA, for a small admin charge - it's public knowledge.

Was your wife there or not? If not, they've made a mistake. Can you reg be mis-written? I've had the Y in mine written in a way that looked like a V on my MOT and had to do a producer because the police thought it was from another car. Otherwise they could be on a scam. IIRC this is why the rules regarding parking/fines in Scotland are different?


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 1:29 pm
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Its not from Tescos, its from a private parking contractor. I'd personally ask for photographic evidence. If they cant provide pic of my car/reg in the space then no-go. The following topic may help as well.

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=616729&mid=70159&nmt=How%20can%20I%20tell%20if%20this%20parking%20ticket%20is%20fake?


 
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You aren't getting charged for anything, so no biggie there.

The BIG issue is that your wife's car reg. plate may have been cloned.

This could definitely do with some chasing up, just so you don't get their parking tickets and speeding fines coming through the door!


 
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A quick [url= http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=highview+parking&meta=&aq=7&oq=highview ]google [/url]suggest the company has a habbit of doing this


 
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That is a remarkable letter. It is, as you say, just a bollocking.


 
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A lot of places now are using ANPR cameras to monitor car park use. Dont know about Tesco but certainly Morrisons. The whole process is more or less automatic and will generate a warning letter or fine direct to the vehicles registered keeper. Normally done through a third party parking company. If so, they will have the images on file. I'd write and ask for the evidential proof of the offence. If they are using ANPR then its either your wife or someone has cloned your car. Up to you which one you worry about more.


 
Posted : 07/07/2009 1:45 pm
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If your good lady was really up to no good, would she actually show you a letter incriminating herself? No of course not!


 
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