[Closed] To much Roadie Talk.

BTW, it's the winter, people are on their boring road bikes more, wait a few months and it'll [s]all go away[/s] increase tenfold when the Tour starts.

FTFY. 😉

Crazy-legs is talking nonsense of course - as there used to be much less road stuff on here - there is no way of knowing that 😉

Sorry, in the above smugness I forgot to actually add an opinion.

I come from a road and triathlon background. Reading the "roadie" topics every now and then I'd say most of them aren't very "roadie" at all. It's quite clear from what is typed that a lot of contributors are not dyed in the wool road cyclists who have been at it for years but relatively new converts, often from a mountain biking heritage. It's people talking about riding bikes on the road - which imo is a very different thing. It also says a little about the poor off road conditions we have had a lot of in the last year or two and (most, clearly not the op) mountain bikers growing preparedness to try other formats of the same sport. Diversification if you will. I see this as a good thing.

Convert- Absolutely spot-on analysis. Agree with all of that.

[i]I felt my point was very fair and justified, noticed a significant increase in road bike subjects on a mountain bike forum!
If like myself you ride both, great but use the appropriate forum![/i]

Or just don't read a post you're not interested in. Seriously why do posts about road bikes annoy you enough to start a topic about it?

"Seriously why do posts about road bikes annoy you enough to start a topic about it?"

This

But general I think most have been better recently. For instance, we had a nice little chat about football yday without one single "wendyball" comment.

If you don't like it... don't view it.

OP, do you watch EastEnders? To then moan about it at the end ??

Just turn over man, who made you the thread police ??

I'm confused - I cycle to work and back on a road bike 40 miles, five days a week. Outside of winter, I "mountain bike" at the weekends.

Am I a roadie or a mountie? 🙁

[i]Am I a roadie or a mountie?[/i]

you're a cyclist.

I think the OP was complainign abotu people talkign about it on here, not which category they'd put themselves in.

I take a cross bike on rides that involve both road and singletrack. Where do I post?

If you don't like it... don't view it.

OP, do you watch EastEnders? To then moan about it at the end ??

Tut. Double standards.

It's a well established tradition on STW to watch stuff we don't like specifically so that we can say how crap it was. The weekly "Top Gear" threads for example.

Moaning about stuff that we could easily just avoid/ignore is an integral part of being British.

😀

Nobody's picked him for this one yet:

Although both can complement each other you wouldn't ride your road bike off road and [s]visa[/s] [u]vice[/u] versa however I am at a loss with cyclocross

Can I have £5 as well...?

Oh yeah, sorry, need to add an opinion too:

It's all bikes innit...! Like most I'm an MTBer originally, diversified in to road and cross for the times that I've not been able to ride MTB. Occasional threads on here do seem to be more "MTBers who coincidentally ride road bikes" and, therefore, as far as I'm concerned are fine - variety is the spice of life, etc...

[i]Go and read Cyclist magazine, it's a road version of Singletrack[/i]

Cool. They should start a forum yeah?!

[edit][i]if Singletrack was to begin including the occasional classy road riding feature with great photos and write-ups..[/i]
I would instantly cancel my subscription.

[i]I would instantly cancel my subscription. [/i]

You're exagerating.

It would take longer than that, a couple of minutes at least.

Yes, of course. I'd be so furious my operation of the mouse would be compromised.

"exagerating"? 😯

Okay, flameproof suit on, I'm going to swim against the tide and agree with the OP's sentiment. The flavour of the forum does, to me, seem increasingly to be roadie, if cycling related at all. A lot of the time I don't think people even notice.

For example, there was a thread I posted on the other day that was "what's the fastest you've travelled on a mountain bike?" and LOADS of the posts were people talking about how fast they'd gone on their road bikes. No one (including me, couldn't be bothered) even queried this, it's just normal.

Not that long ago there was a thread where people were talking about their mountain biking and lots, I mean LOTS of people were saying that they hadn't ridden mountain bikes for years, mainly rode road, etc. and were still on here for reasons that had nowt at all to do with mountain biking.

People occasionally take the pee out of MBR on here and the fact is that their forum has about a dozen active members and threads move at a glacial pace BUT if I have a question about mountain biking, I'm more likely to post it on there than here. The few people who post on there are all active mountain bikers who, yes, take the pee and banter with other, but also talk about mountain biking for the most part.

To be honest, if you blanked the top of the screen and asked someone to look through the forum posts, I'm not sure they'd come to conclusion that this was a "mountain biking" forum and more that it's a middle class car owners forum, a general cycling forum, or just a middle-class lifestyle forum (main subjects: Cars, stuff on the telly, wood burners, coffee machines, consumer affairs and the sale of goods act, and a bit of cycling).

Yes, I know, no one forces me to read or contribute at gunpoint, can choose to go elsewhere etc. but I have an opinion, as does the OP and nowt wrong with expressing it in a forum. As an aside, there's a bit of unpleasantness to the way critical opinions are responded to, this thread being an example.

[i]"exagerating"? [/i]

It's like exaggerating, but takes less time 😉

Nyss.

cyclocross rocks

I counted 4 road threads on the front page of the bike forum.

Doesn't seem too bad to me.

Maybe people are just seeing what reinforces their prejudices?

I bought that Cyclist magazine for a sticky beak on the plane back to Aus. Turns out it was really quite good, best of the 3-4 magazines I've bought.

I just read the whole of edlong's post. Good eh?

Anyway, this is the middle-class-lifestyle-wood-burner-shaving-recipe-advice chat forum, I don't think you could mistake the Bike Forum (over there << ) (which, in my experience, is always EXTREMELY useful and helpful about MTB (or any other rubbish form of cycling) matters), for anything but a cycling forum.

I'm not sure they'd come to conclusion that this was a "mountain biking" forum and more that it's a middle class car owners forum, a general cycling forum, or just a middle-class lifestyle forum

Umm.. there are two forums here. One is cycling, and one is middle-class lifestyle (and other stuff). You do know about the bike forum page don't you?

Just roughly counted 27 mtb-specific threads on the first page, a few that could be either, about three or four road thrads, some commuting ones and one about sheds.

I posted the thread not because I'm a hater or because I'm the "Thread Police" or because I thought I'd try my hand at Trolling,
To be completely honest I didn't actually have a negative thought when writing the OP,
I've only recently started using the forum, for MTB related and non MTB related posts (Chat Forum), I've added to the community, trying to keep a positive note in my posts, Yes I like to grumble in real life, but I'm generally positive person.

I took an observation about how on a Mountain Biking forum there was a fair amount of Road cycling talk, I wasn't negative to anyone, I simply put my opinion across,
I put a suggestion to people that there was a Road cycling forum in the form of road.cc (I wouldn't expect to see a flurry of Playstation posts on an XBox forum?)

Add that my grammar was poor (Hands Up) I then received a torrent of abuse or just general negativity in reaction a simple suggestion based on my opinion,
Some agreed, some took the extreme, talking of leg shaving fairies or something (don't quote me on that!) but most of which were a negative and often abusive reaction, fine I except that!
We are of course on the internet, freedom to/too(?) express yourself as you please,
However what upsets me is this goes against the pretty good atmosphere that I've felt from the forums in the past couple of months.

I apologize my post caused such negativity 😳

I'm leaving it this

[i]because I thought I'd try my hand at Trolling,[/i]

*reported*

[i]I apologize my post caused such negativity[/i]

A bit of research would have clearly told you that the roadies on here are a very defensive lot 😉

I counted 4 road threads on the front page of the bike forum.

It's not just the thread titles though, is it? Like I said, someone started a thread asking how fast people had gone on their mountain bikes. The title of the thread is "What's the fastest speed you've reached on a mountain bike?" Go and see how many of the replies tell you how fast people have gone on a road bike...

On the subject of segregation, I think it makes forums worse. Many other forums are broken down into extremely specific sub-categories, and this means that people only go to the ones they are interested in, so your posts end up being seen by a handful of people.

In reality, we're not solely interested in one specific thing. We like lots of stuff - I like MTB, road, I commute, I drive a car, I own a house, I drink coffee, I travel, take pictures etc etc. I don't want to have to click through different forums or even sites to talk about this stuff.

The diversity of stuff both cycling and non- is what makes this forum so good. I spend all day on here, I hardly ever go to other forums!

[i]Go and see how many of the replies tell you how fast people have gone on a road bike... [/i]

you could use the 'report post' button to get them removed by the mods for being off topic?

A bit of research would have clearly told you that the roadies on here are a very defensive lot

Why? Are they that insecure about their preferred choice of cycling? 😀

SSHHH!

FWIW and IMO, there are a few reasons for the roadie talk:

1. All cycling is fun and I would guess the majority of MTB owners also own some kind of road bike. The exclusive bit is to a large extent a myth that is sustained merely for the humour/banter value
2. The crap weather and condition of trails has led to many of us getting the road bikes out again
3. There really is not that much MTB stuff to talk about if we are being honest
4. Commited roadies (and especially triathletes like me 😉 ) are easy targets for banter

(endlong, dare I sat* it, while some of your observations are true, you may be missing the hidden element of satire and banter that is behind much of the roadie stuff)

P.s. *I don't think autocorrect helps with the grammar and spelling...sat it?????. Took 4 goes to type endlong and Grum tends to be changed to glum etc which could easily cause (mild) offence!!!

Where's Yodagoat & Stanfree ? They're both batting for the other team 😆

I then received a torrent of abuse

I think your understanding of the phrase "torrent of abuse" is very different from a lot of other people 😐

You're maybe being a "little bit" over sensitive ?

you could use the 'report post' button to get them removed by the mods for being off topic?

There's a bit of a difference between having a mild grumble about it when someone raises the issue in a thread and it strikes me as being a pertinent illustration, and being offended enough to "report post"!!!

I'm not suggesting that the mods should be removing posts about road cycling, and I'm happy that the mood of the hive is what it is - if it moves in a certain direction then so be it, if that means it no longer appeals to some people, then they can move on to another forum, no problem with that. However, I don't see any problem either with discussing it openly since someone has started a thread to do that very thing. I have an opinion, that I would prefer the cycling talk on here to be more about mountain biking and less about road than it currently is, but that's no more than my opinion, not sure why I would expect the mods to remove posts in reflection of it though?

I was being tongue in cheek, sorry for not being clearer.

There's an ebb and flow to these things. There's a surge in road posts when the off road riding is rubbish and again during the grand tours.

As you say, people will either accept it or move on.

Think the OP's maybe missed the tongue-in-cheekness of a lot of responses, the banter's part of what makes STW so great.

Especially for me living in the MTB wasteland of Nottingham, don't you think taco...? 😉 (That smilie's to show there's no negativity, just a bit of lighthearted banter...!)

I would prefer the cycling talk on here to be more about mountain biking and less about road than it currently is,

*lobs a straw man into the argument*

Taking that idea to it's conclusion we'd only have two or three threads on here. The Munroe thread, about half the bivi thread, and a few threads on the Lakes and Wales, nothing else is 'Mountain'.

[i]nothing else is 'Mountain'. [/i]

*looks out of window at South Downs*

good point.

Can't you just ignore the stuff you're not interested in and read the stuff you are? Radical, I know.

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To be honest, having to wade through all the "Its Tuesday, please congratualate me on this photo that I took" thread is far more annoying than the roadie threads but then thats because I am also a roadie and not a photographer. I came up with an ace plan though, ignore the photography threads.... Mrs BristolPablo likes the dog picture threads though so wants those to stay.

I think your understanding of the phrase "torrent of abuse" is very different from a lot of other people

Yeah, you should try posting an urgent [b]"I've just seen on the telly that the Titanic has sunk"[/b] thread and see what happens... 😉

still smarts eh Mr Woppit?

teamhurtmore - Member
FWIW and IMO, there are a few reasons for the roadie talk:

1. All cycling is fun and I would guess the majority of MTB owners also own some kind of road bike. The exclusive bit is to a large extent a myth that is sustained merely for the humour/banter value
2. The crap weather and condition of trails has led to many of us getting the road bikes out again
3. There really is not that much MTB stuff to talk about if we are being honest
4. Commited roadies (and especially triathletes like me ) are easy targets for banter

wwaswas - Member

still smarts eh Mr Woppit?

It's da bomb! 😆