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For me Bond is like Dr. Who - great when you are 12 - sadly lacking when you are middle aged! 🙂
Live and Let Die is really really bad for racism,
Of its time - and I'd say that Dr No and any of the others with token black characters were waaay worse. Besides, with lines like "Take this honkey outside and waste him" it's quite balanced 😉
Moonraker (Bond jumps on the Star Wars bandwagon).
I like Moonraker because it is so silly. Watched it quite recently with my lad and he loved it, especially Jaws.
Moonraker deserves credit because they managed to get a Space Shuttle in orbit before NASA did.
The one with Robert Carlsile
The World Is Not Enough
My faves have been all of the Daniel Craig ones, although to be fair I'll watch pretty much any Bond film.
I thought Lazenby did well in OHMSS.
QoS is poor because of the script (or lack of) it was made during the scriptwriters strike so it needed a better ending rather than just rocking up at a hotel and blowing it up. Spectre was poor too but I quite like Skyfall
Octopussy is truly awful, there's a reason it's never on the telly anymore, Die another day is bad too I agree
I like Moonraker because it is so silly.
It is redeemed only by the 'I believe he's attempting re-entry, Sir', line. My nine-year-old self thought it would be funny to ask his parents what exactly the joke was...
For me Bond is like Dr. Who – great when you are 12 – sadly lacking when you are middle aged! 🙂
This. Although the 12 year old me, which's still in there somewhere, does enjoy a 'brain off' Roger Moore one on a lazy afternoon.
It's a View to a Kill. Or never say never again. Or the living daylights.
Dr.no was just a relatively low budget beginning I believe, did better than expected so things took off after that.
As much as I love goldfinger, I suppose you could argue a film in which the hero effectively rapes someone isn't actually a good film!
and has been pointed out Ms Kurylenko is in it
If you like her then watch Hitman. Do not watch the latest Johnny English film.
They're mostly bland and boring as i've realised over the last few years when they've become regularly shown on regular tv, with some exceptions...
-All the Craig efforts (absolutely including QoS!) - the most convincing Bond by some margin.
-You Only Live Twice
-Live And Let Die
-The Spy Who Loved Me
-OHMSS
-Goldfinger
...flame away ;0)
Any of the Pierce Brosnan ones.
Whereas the Moore ones have dodgy humour in, which was often OK at the time, at least the character he played was somewhat believable, getting beaten up in fight scenes and just managing to extricate himself, etc - whereas Brosnan played it like he was some sort of invincible super-hero - and that sprinting scene - who runs like that FFS ?
A bit like the recent Dr Whos where he is now 'master of the universe' compared to the old ones like Pertwee.
Best was the recent Casino Royale but since then they have just been a waste of potential.
I don't know if most of you are discounting it because it wasn't an "official" Eon one, but I find it hard to understand why this thread isn't an OP saying "Never Say Never Again" followed by 50 posts of "+1".
Much as some of the others are pretty hokey, surely none of them are as outright terrible as that one?
/end of thread/
Octopussy by a mile, it just ridiculous even by the standards of the Roger Moore Bonds -having said that Live and Let Die and Moonraker are okay if you take them for what they are.
None of the Bonds have an unblemished records all of them have at least one stinker -Brosnan and Moore have plenty. Both of Timothy Daltons are pretty bad
They're all a bit shit, but thats what makes them so great.
The DC ones have tried to become actual good films after the Die another Day rediculousness above, amd they managed it with casino royale, but I love them all for their cheeseyness.
Think of how good the Danny Boyle one could/ would have been 🙁
I love Quantum of Solace.
I hate Skyfall.
This. Worst though is the one with Brosnan and the invisible car. Roger Moore was the best Bond BTW.
All of those that didn't have Sean Connery in. Well I can't really be certain of that as Connery was the Bond of my generation and I haven't watched ALL the others. But I did recently see Skyfall which I thought was frankly appalling. Style over substance right there.
Skyfall is terrible because it all sort of goes a bit "Home Alone" at the end.
On Her Majesty Service. They made bond dull
U mad bro?
George Lazenby was the don also because Diana Rigg.
Skyfall is terrible because it all sort of goes a bit “Home Alone” at the end.
Funnily enough that’s the exact reason why I like it. Turns in to an okay home invasion movie. I’m not a Bond fan though, so my opinion is very much skewed on this thread.
Skyfall is terrible because it all sort of goes a bit “Home Alone” at the end.
And the baddie wins...
Kimbers nails it.
I don't understand the hate for the Roger Moore Bond films - I quite liked the humour in them. But then again, I grew up watching them as they came out – I especially loved The Spy Who Loved Me for the Lotus Esprit car chase 🙂
Kimbers nails it.
Beyond dispute.
Might as well have had Bond jumping a shark.
Might as well have had Bond jumping a shark.
... or sledging down a mountain in a cello case.
On Her Majesty Service. They made bond dull.
So glad I’m not the only one knowing that Drac is completely and utterly wrong.
I’m surprised he can mod effectively - what with having no eyes or ears... 😂
The bond films only worked when Kevin McClory got involved
https://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2017/0710/889071-the-irish-connection/
hmm wasnt a fan of Goleneye but I think die another day might have it. Only saving grace is the Aston (until it disappears, step too far).
The ice surfing car chase is the worst bond scene ever
And yet that was the part of Die Another Day that the production team were SO proud of. We had "the making of...", "behind the scenes of..." and all the fascinating info about how many Astons and Jags were made specially for it. It made its way into every trailer and teaser to the extent that when the film was released, everyne had seen it all and it was just "meh, another car chase".
The whole film though is woeful, the special effects are appalling - from the tsunami surfing greenscreen to the obviously dummy soldiers in the hovercrafts, the wildly misjudged invisible car and the cliched script.
Yep, it's pretty much up there as worst Bond ever. Shame because Goldeneye was a good reboot, one of the better Bonds and you kind of thought Pierce Brosnan might get into it but he was so let down by the increasingly dreadful scripts and plots. Even he thinks Die Another Day was one of the worts Bond films!
Oi you lot, be gentle on me!
My mum was an extra when Dr No was filmed in Jamaica back in the day. I was born there soon after. Thus, I'm an extra extra 'cos I was in my mummy's tummy.
So, be nice.
In all seriousness though, as a child you surely always believe that your parent is wholly truthful don't you? Well, as I grew older I wondered about the veracity of her tales, surely they could not be wholly true?
FWIW, there were a few, notably that we went to see Dr Martin Luther King Jr. make his 'I have a dream' speech in Washington. We were living in New York by then... ...and speaking to my mum's contemporaries it seems that she did not tell fibs. Go Mum, you are (were) brilliant!
Timothy Dalton was not a bad Bond.
Timothy Dalton was a good Bond. Probably the second best, maybe the best.
Doesn't necessarily make his Bond films the best though...
It’s a View to a Kill. Or never say never again. Or the living daylights.
Aye, **** aye, naw.
Any Dalton film.
Worst. Bond. Ever.
Get tae **** ye mad bastard, Dalton wiz gallus*!
All of those that didn’t have Sean Connery in.
Except that heap o' keich niver say niver agin.
… or sledging down a mountain in a cello case.
Still sleverin' pish, ye niver taken a maccy D's tray fur a hurl doon the brae?
*Okay so hauf o' them wir admittedly Miami Vice nonsense bit still bettir thun that walloper Moore.
FWIW, there were a few, notably that we went to see Dr Martin Luther King Jr. make his ‘I have a dream’ speech in Washington. We were living in New York by then… …and speaking to my mum’s contemporaries it seems that she did not tell fibs. Go Mum, you are (were) brilliant!
Sincere doffing of cap to Ambroses mum.
I think that’s overly harsh Mister P.
Nope, I’m with Mister P on this one.
Timothy Dalton was a good Bond. Probably the second best, maybe the best.Doesn’t necessarily make his Bond films the best though…
My personal favourite of all the bond films is The Living Daylights. Partly becasue it was a refreshing return to "normal" after the increasingly silly antics of Roger Moore, it was a believable story (if somewhat complicated at times) and, at the time, bang up to date with the Cold War. Also it had Maryam d'Abo in it. And the Aston got to use it's full range of tricks.
The one glaring inconsistency in it is when they're in the Hercules and the warning lights start going off and Bond is looking around going "there's nowhere to put it down" so does the parachute trick to get out of it. Next thing the jeep has landed right by the widest bit of smooth highway in ****stan. Err, so you could have landed it there then...
I just realised I put the living daylights when I actually meant licence to kill.
Living daylights was pretty good at the time and I've got nowt against Timmy D. License to kill was well naff though.
Worst one? I'm not sure. Any of the Roger Moore ones other than Live and Let Die. But the best ones are definitely the ones where an actor has his first shot at Bond - Dr No, OHMSS, Live and Let Die, etc right up to Casino Royale
Dr.no was just a relatively low budget beginning I believe, did better than expected so things took off after that.
So low budget that the Rolex Connery was wearing actually belonged to the director, they didn’t have any money in the budget for the watch, and Rolex weren’t interested in stumping up one for an unknown film project. Even the nylon strap was a poor fit for the watch!
Personally, for all their faults, the Craig Bond films are my favourites, just because they’re darker in tone - less of the ‘knowing wink’ to the audience. Clearly an other spy action franchise had an effect.
The best ones are those three with Matt Damon in them.
They're all shite tbh.
Bond is a lot like Dr. Who.
It rather depends on who you were, when you were at the time.
Having said that - as someone who has spanned many 'Bond's - anyone who thinks that Daniel Craig Bond is not the best Bond is demonstrably wrong.
If you are struggling, think of this - of all of them, who would you least like to find yourself in a fight against?
Daniel Craig Bond would have killed you before you had begun to think.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Quantum of solace is based on a bond short story - so the film didn't have much to go on in the first place... I actually think it was pretty good. I've found Skyfall and Spectre both fairly disappointing compared to Casino Royale - which was the best bond film since:
(thunderball)
The worst films were the Dalton ones. I really liked him as Bond - but the films were utter gash.
Spectre easily the worst IMO. A car chase within city speed limits?
Of the older ones, lots fall down due to the attitudes of their day, so IMO you have to view them with that in mind.
Others are just a bit crap tho, but it's not a franchise to look at too harshly...merely entertainment