Why should restarting a nuclear reactor and nuclear weapons programme be seen as particularly provocative in the case of North Korea when many other nations already have them or are trying to aquire them?
Where's Kaesae? I miss his brand of slacktivism 🙁
This image makes you think- half of the world (and most of the worlds most populated parts) is nuclear. And Korea is right bang in the middle of the most concentrated Nuclear parts of the world.
Admittedly China and Russia are considered allies by NK.
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What if it really did kick off? The Cuban missile crisis only needed a missed phone call or a wrong thought for everything to disappear under a mushroom cloud. 😯
Edit: [url= http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2013/03/world/nuclear-weapon-states/?iid=article_sidebar#india ]Here's the map again with all the stats[/url]
showing capability as land aread is a bit misleading, given that the US has NATO deployment sites across Europe and the Europeans/ US have greater submarine capability than most of the Eastern side of the map.
It seems that the closing of the Kaesong industrial complex is the next play in NKs hand, not much left after this apart from sinking a ship/shelling an island.
This is getting some press here in HK, not too sure whats happening in the mainland though.
"Hans Bwix? Muufu**er! You're breaking my balls here Haaans! I'm a vewy busy man!!"
Actually Tubby McFat**** does have a smartphone, there was a photograph of him released by accident a few weeks ago, it was on the desk next to him.
Tubby McFat****
Is he Scottish? ❓
Tubby McFat****
😆 😆
Sitting waiting for my flight home, TV headline in the lounge (CNN) says, "N Korea approves nuclear attack on US".
Crikey.
best to kep an eye out for low flying missles on the plane back home, they may not have a great comand of geography
That was rather the worry! Seeing as I'm currently in the geographical region that would be "Target Number One" for Tubby's missiles......
Actually Tubby McFat**** does have a smartphone, there was a photograph of him released by accident a few weeks ago, it was on the desk next to him.
Well, he's not alone in that; many of the *better off* in NK have smartphones, computers, flat-screen TV's, pads, etc.
NK really seems to be poking the dragon asking for instant sunshine over Pyongyang.
Oh well, looking forward to watching videos of F-18's wiping out armored columns and the yanks generally bulldozing everyone with high explosives north of the border.
Interesting news for once.
That was rather the worry! Seeing as I'm currently in the geographical region that would be "Target Number One" for Tubby's missiles......
Just start a new thread,
"What precautions and tyres to use incase of a nuclear holocaust"
[url= http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/03/north-korea-china-kaesong-zone_n_3006549.html?utm_hp_ref=uk ]China remain very coy...[/url]
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Seriously shit uniforms there. No decent villain has such a lame dress sense.
Even Lemmy makes a better villain:
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From CNN:
North Korea stirred up fresh unease in Northeast Asia early Thursday, threatening attacks by a "smaller, lighter and diversified" nuclear force and warning, "The moment of explosion is approaching fast."
See, it's that little Korean bloke with the suitcase- i'd keep an eye on em! 😉
Seriously shit uniforms there. No decent villain has such a lame dress sense.
That hairstyle went out at the end of the Rave scene era 😉
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Plus the guy on the right can't even put a hat on his head straight. Considering they can't even dress themselves properly, I'm not overly concerned about their military capability.
When they finally get invaded and wiped out by the Americans they'll probably find that their plans for a nuclear bomb consist of sticking a lump of uranium in a microwave and setting it to 'Re-heat meal' for 4 minutes....
I love the way no one really seems to be taking the North Korean nuclear threat very seriously.
Despite the fact that the North Koreans have nuclear weapons, have announced that they are expanding their nuclear weapons programme, and have publicly declared that they will use nuclear weapons.
No one seems to be particularly very worried.
In contrast Iran has no nuclear weapons and has publicly declared that they have no intention of acquiring any, and yet we are told by the US, British, and Israeli governments, that we should be extremely worried indeed.
It seems as if not having nuclear weapons causes more concern than actually having them.
Or are we simply reassured by the fact that because the North Koreans are quite clearly completely bonkers they pose no threat to anyone ?
There is clearly a great deal of difference between the perceived nuclear threat posed by North Korea and Iran as offered to us by US/British governments, but it defies all logic.
Of course one country has a great deal of oil and the other has no oil at all - perhaps the clue lies there ?
Spot-on, Ernie.
Iran is also stuck between nuclear-armed ****stan, US-occupioed Afghanistan & Iraq, & hostile Arab states, yet they are still non-belligerent.
I reckon the US have already sent in a Special Forces chap to disarm NK's entire nuclear-arms programme ...
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If Kim Jong Un is this bonkers, I can't wait for the sequel: Kim Jong Deux.
IGMC
Planning for the attack is at an advanced stage.....
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That hairstyle went out at the end of the Rave scene era
And it appears to be a flagrant breach of permitted NK hairstyles.
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As I've said before, I don't think there is likely to be a resumption of active hostilities for several years yet, though in an atnosphere of heightened tension there is always the risk of an 'accidental' war.
After a while KJU will be able to claim that as the US hasn't attacked the DPRK that his policies are a success, thereby strenghtening his position.
And while we're discussing the Korean situation acn we please refrain from using pejorative language regarding KJU's body mass index? This topic deserves more serious consideration than infantile remarks such as those give it.
pejorative
Ooh, look at you ... is that your "must use" word of the day?
#currentlyworkingonchildishpostsevenmoresothanthisone
Twee townie welly telly and that incessant, infantile background 'music' is teeth-grindingly obnoxious!Here in the wilds of Zuzzex Country file is a swear word. I'd like to give them all the Deliverance treatment...
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/never-mind-songs-of-praise-its-countryfile-that-hacks-me-off
So, you'd like to do unmentionable things to the presenters and staff of countryfile, but your Korean lunatic mate is untouchable?
Interesting.
The Korean man has big missles! 🙂
The Korean man has big missles!
I'm calling that a euphamism! Are you calling him fat? 😉
The other, more worrying aspect of the situation is that China is mobilising its forces. A Korean war would be bad enough, but a war involving China and the US...
war involving China and the US...
Will not happen.
Without the US buying thier products China would have a rather large problem.
Obviously no sane person would want a war. But with two bristling high-tech forces rubbing against each other, and firing decisions taken by computer, there is a risk that war may be sparked unintentionally.
I'd wager Chinese mobilisation has more to do with securing there Korean border than anything else, with some sabre rattling thrown in.
In general, people don't go to war if they think they have nothing to gain. Why would China eliminate exports to its biggest single trading partner, with the EU probably following suit. Kind of knocks the stuffing out of there economy.
A buffer state against US influence is handy, but is it really that handy?
China would be better off invading N.K
I wonder what the odds are on a Chinese driven Coup against the NK leadership?
Edit, beaten to it.
It's an interesting idea, seemingly most NK guns are pointing south.
China could just shut the railway line and starve them all to death. NK is pretty much dependant on China for food, fuel and raw materials.
Not forgetting the concept of 'face'. China couldn't be seen to be being pushed around by the US over Korea. No doubt stabilisation and control of the border is the prime motivation. It's true that everyone has more to lose than to gain from a war, and you'd expect rationality to triumph. But it doesn't always happen that way...
"But with two bristling high-tech forces"
Think you've over estimated China there.
More a numbers game for them
China could just shut the railway line and starve them all to death
To be fair I think the NK government have already started doing that.... 🙄
Not as advanced as the US, but good enough, and more of them closer to home.
So where does this eventually lead? once this hiatus is past? What is the long-term solution to the Korean problem? I'd imagine that there will be a renewed 'sunshine' policy, with the DPRK being slowly integrated into the world economy, and the grudging acceptance that the DPRK is, and will remain a de-facto nuclear power, with the responsibilites that entails. In the long term exposure to even a very limited form of consumerism will have more of a destabilising effect on the CP-DPRK than military and diplomatic pressure. Think how China has evolved in the last forty years. I suspect the solution will be some form of the same opening and reforms. The DPRK leadership will have to evolve or be surplanted.
