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Sports massage last night, hot yoga tonight, the old stiff body is easing! Anyone tried HY? It's flipping brill!


 
Posted : 24/10/2018 7:31 pm
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I've decided to get "back into" running. The last few years I've done cycling and nothing else. Apparently it would benefit me (and my tight hamstrings) to do a variety of exercise, or so says the osteopath I saw recently. Going back around 5 years or so I was fairly fit, did tbe occadional 10k and half etc..

I've just been for a "steady" 2.5 mile run, clocked 9 minute/mile pace (I was thinking it'd be 10 min/mile so fairly pleased with that), first run in months and months and actually felt ok and could have gone further at that pace. But when I stopped back at the car I could feel my legs trying to cramp up.  I did some stretches and managed to avoid any real cramp thankfully. Think my legs will need some readjusting to running!

Hoping to run a couple of times a week to complement my cycling. If nothing else I feel like I generally work consistently harder on a run than on a ride. Think I'll leave it a week before my next run and build up slowly, but it definately felt good to be back out for a run.


 
Posted : 24/10/2018 9:51 pm
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For the ankle - I'd say ok to run if it feels ok and you are confident of not doing it again. I did something involving an audible crack sound and a red swollen line up the outside of my calf in a fell race (had to drop out) and was jogging easily on roads a week later. It wasn't strong and stable for a while longer though.


 
Posted : 24/10/2018 10:34 pm
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Did hot yoga and really enjoyed it.  Unfortunately I couldnt warrant the outlay for attendance with any regularity so it's sat on the "I'd like to do that again someday" list.


 
Posted : 25/10/2018 1:40 pm
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Aye, it's expensive. We have a large group of guys that block book it, they give us it for 7 quid a head instead of the usual 15, only once a week though, could happily do it more.


 
Posted : 25/10/2018 1:43 pm
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Another relative newby to running! I only used to run if there was no other exercise on offer, but I've really started to get into my trail running over the last few months. An offroad buggy means I can combine running with looking after a 10 month old and often headed out around Poynton and Lyme Park early on a weekend morning during the summer. Done a few 16-18k runs (including some decent lengths in the Lakes with c.1000m of climbing) and never imagined I'd be able to run those distances, never mind enjoy it!

I'm not fast (5k PB last night of 23mins and that felt pretty hard) but I am enjoying it more than I imagined. Signed up for the Percy Pud in Sheffield in December with a bunch of mates and then goal for 2019 is to run each of the legs of the Bob Graham at some point (i.e. spread out over the year not back to back!).


 
Posted : 25/10/2018 2:26 pm
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Gotta love a bit of progression!  I started running back in August and did my first flat out 5k shortly after which I did in 23:54.

I did another flat out 5k yesterday and eeked out a 20:51.

Gotta say that my legs are sore today from it!  Slow off road is more enjoyable for me though so I'll probably concentrate my efforts there.

Although a sub 20 5k would be quite satisfying!


 
Posted : 25/10/2018 2:37 pm
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Well I forgot my parkrun barcode ......

So this morning I got up and ran the meall a buchallie circuit in the snow from about 400m up. Ultra poor vis up top. Glad I know it well as you couldn't see the path down the other side in the snow.

Defiantly on the edge of my comfort zone given what I was carrying

12km in 1hr 17mins. My last km was as quick as my first which for me is a big deal as historically I go too fast and taper off to crawling.

Then went for a dip in morlich in the snow..... My feet have not recovered.


 
Posted : 26/10/2018 4:05 pm
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I know there are a few Scots on here, if anybody is going to the illuminator in Aboyne, it has snowed. I did a 10k close by last week in a vest.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:01 am
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Well, my legs are less sore today. 2.5mile run on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday was agony waking down stairs etc.  , quads were in bits!     Steady ride on the bike today to loosen off I think, then another run on Monday.    Hopefully the legs will begin to get accustomed to running sometime soon!


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:41 am
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Smug post. Just done a lovely 5k along the Cretan coast, blue skies, sea breeze and good pace too. Now sat by the pool cooling off. One of my real pleasures is a holiday run and that was every bit as good as I hoped.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 4:16 pm
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Jedburgh half tomorrow, looking forward to  nice sunny autumn run with the good lady. An extra hour in bed too, bliss. 😊


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:38 pm
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My miles and mile of plodding seems to be working for me. I manged 18.50 on Pomphrey hill parkrun on Sat and then about 13k later (after a 20 minute break)  during an increasing pace run I managed my fastest ever 1/2k 1k and 1 mile.

Some of the stories n here are really motivational. Very impressive.

I have started hills on Tue morning before work  in North  Bristol if anyone fancies keeping me company?


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 12:12 pm
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Excellent, very good time sir, well done you.

Jedburgh half was pretty grim, first 4 miles was lovely, then ran into a black sky that was only missing Sauron's eye. Hail and a torrent for the rest of the run, so cold I couldn't even feel the packet of shot bloks in my pocket at mile eleven, fingers like frozen sausages!.

Mrs Nobeer was awesome though, despite having what looks like a chest infection, she managed to PB by almost a minute, a proper little battleship indeed!.


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 12:43 pm
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Roight, after much humming and hawing I've decided to have a crack at a winter Ramsay's Round.

I'm telling you this because I know there will be a few who are interested but also because telling some random folk on the net makes it feel a bit more real as an objective!


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 8:05 pm
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Awesome Spin, keep is posted. Ideally, I'd love to run a leg with someone, in the real world, I'm not sure I'd be quick enough to do it! 😁


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 8:44 pm
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This thread continues to be awesome btw! Some great stories from all abilities. ❤ it.


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 8:45 pm
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Anyone know who makes ladies running winter weight 7/8 tights in xs/8…? Petite mrs_oab needs warmer legs when she's running this winter.


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 9:18 pm
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My wife 🙂 Not a lot of use to you, sorry. I'm about to get a set of long lycra to scare the local sheep with though.


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 9:27 pm
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Anyone know who makes ladies running winter weight 7/8 tights in xs/8…? Petite mrs_oab needs warmer legs when she’s running this winter.

My wife likes these, though she finds them too warm most of the year. She reckons the Decathlon tights fit really well so if they’re not right then look at the rest of the range.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/kiprun-womens-warm-tights-id_8503923.html


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 10:00 pm
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Are they 7/8 length? Mrs_oab is proper short of leg...


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 10:14 pm
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Awesome Spin, keep is posted

Cheers. It'll be very much conditions dependent and even in good conditions far from a dead cert but that's what makes it interesting. Looking at mid/late January to the end of February as my window to give plenty of chances for a decent weekend. It's only been done 4 times in under 24 hours but it suits my skill set so it's worth a bash I think.


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 10:20 pm
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Jumping back a bit to Brakes post - if you follow slowpuncheur's time extrapolation of 2 x 10km + 3 x 1km to get your half marathon time... Then mine should be 2 x 41:09 + 3 x 3:52, which is 1:34:54; whereas my ACTUAL half marathon PB is 1:34:14 - an entire 40 seconds different - not even close 😉  !!

So realistically, you probably need to be able to run a sub 40 10km to run a sub 90 half, which is normally roughly equivalent to a 19 minute 5k...

But... That said... Some people overachieve at one end of the distance scale - for instance, my friend Dom can run 5km in 19:00, but his half PB is 1:35:00 - so you never know - you could be the other way around. But it's a big ask, as it's 13.1 miles at 6:51 pace which isn't hanging about (and would put you in the top 1500 fastest half marathon runners in your age group in the UK on RunBritain Rankings).

I'm going for sub 90 next year too; but I'm planning to run 5 days a week - a tempo (or a race), a hill session, an interval session, a long slow run and a recovery run...

That said , I know a fella who pulled a 3:00 marathon in Brighton on 30 miles a week - which shouldn't be possible, so good luck and chapeau!


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 10:45 pm
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Update. Tonight I managed to compete Run Every Day in October. My first recovery achievement done.


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 11:07 pm
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Fantastic Sparkles! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 11:50 pm
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A WINTER Ramsey round? Nurse! The screens!


 
Posted : 01/11/2018 6:24 am
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That said , I know a fella who pulled a 3:00 marathon in Brighton on 30 miles a week – which shouldn’t be possible, so good luck and chapeau!

There are a number of factors at play. Mileage is only one of them. I ran a reasonable marathon off around 50 MPW years ago (never did a serious one) and my Sunday run was only 12 miles. The thing was I seldom ran any of those 50 miles slower than around 6 min miling, many were much quicker. I think mileage is very important but not just for its own sake. Running 50 mpw averaging 6 min miling is better than 70 mpw averaging 7 min miling. Good runners run high mileage but also quality.


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 10:41 am
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Good show mr_sparkles.


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 11:02 am
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Not sure if this is allowed, mods, if it's not feel free to delete, but given no-one is likely to look at the classifieds for a new pair of running shoes...

I'm getting rid of a few pairs of shoes that haven't worked for me, so if anyone needs a size 47 (I'm a 46 in normal shoes) and would be interested in the below, drop me a message:

Nike Vaporfly, black, 7 miles

On Cloudflyer, green, 90 miles

Ascics Superion, blue, 13 miles


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 11:39 am
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What are we all doing this weekend? I am running the Templeton 10m just outside Dundee. It is a weird one as I like my half marathons but have never done that particular distance. It is beside where I grew up and I know the route really well though. So...do I cry havoc and fly off, or do I save it and start to pick up time in the second half? I do a 1.50ish half so would like to be a dunt under 1.30 for ten.


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 11:53 am
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Ooh, forgot a pair, Nike Lunar Glide in offensive pink and yellow, 30 miles.


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 12:05 pm
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I know what I'm doing - Cross Country is BACK!!! We're in the Three Counties Cross Country League, so I've got my very shortest-shorts and my spikes ready to go for the first race in Dunstable!


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 12:28 pm
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very shortest-shorts and my spike

Ah yes, cross chic. Short shorts, vest, bobble hat, gloves. Strong look, very strong.


 
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For shame - I actually DO wear a bobble hat and gloves with my vest - I hate myself 🙁


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 12:35 pm
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For shame – I actually DO wear a bobble hat and gloves with my vest – I hate myself

Of course, that's the textbook look. Add a beaten up Helly Hansen base layer for when it's well below zero and you're sorted.


 
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Or arm-warmers, vest and shorty-short-shorts for the kinkiest look... I really have the scrawniest, bandiest legs imaginable!

Bandy legs


 
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I can compete with that, not at the start of an XC race, but you get the idea.


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 12:42 pm
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me and wife have to go to arbroath tomorrow my folks house has sold so i need to clear out my junk.

Going to call in at stonehaven park run on the way - remembering my barcode this time. Shall try and get the wife to also do it......

then sunday is trail tribe in scolty - which is generally a trail run with a bunch of exercises chucked in.  Mostly quite good fun and a good way to get a core workout in as im as guilty as the next guy of knowing the benifits of a strong core and general conditioning.... but i still dont do them regular.


 
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A headband too? Epic! 🙂


 
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Stupid photo uploads to this site


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 12:49 pm
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Points lost for compression gear instead of tubi-grip....Mind you; those arm warmers are a bit Frank n Furter.


 
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This is like cross country bingo - short-shorts - check! Vests over old smelly-hellys - check! Gloves - check! Stupid hats - check!

HATS!


 
Posted : 02/11/2018 1:27 pm
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A bit of advice please from the ultra trail types

I've started upping my mileage with a  view to doing some trail ultras in the coming years

I have a salamon vest and a nice windproof but what do you run in and or carry, waterproof in particular seems a big debate lightweight but enough to pass kit check or heavyweight as if you need it you need it and your not going to run In one anyway

Any tips tricks advice welcomed ta


 
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There are ultras and ultras. Not that I've done anything longer than the 3 peaks (running) which I suppose is technically not an ultra but takes a lot longer than a road marathon. If I was expecting to walk significantly sections and there was a risk of poor weather I'd definitely go beyond the race minimum. Might be tempted to take a bit of a risk if I was in with a serious chance of winning but that's hardly the case - the aim would be to enjoy (cope with) the experience as best as possible.


 
Posted : 03/11/2018 3:51 pm
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Truly lovely Parkrun today. I’ve been volunteering and RDing a lot recently and this week, with a full roster, I just went there and ran. And it was so, so nice. Winter sun, a good turn out, a reasonable time and a top 15 finish. Really reminded why I fell in love with the event in the first place and why I keep going back. A very pleasant run home followed by coffee, bacon and Raymond Blanc on Saturday kitchen finished off a perfect Saturday morning.

Snd now I’m going to the pub, Saturday is shaping up very nicely indeed.


 
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