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Apparently one of the questions is:

"Is the statement below true or false? British scientists were the first to clone a mammal successfully. The animal was a rabbit."

Somebody needs their P45...


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:02 pm
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Dolly the Sheep?


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:06 pm
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Yes that was indeed the first mammal that was cloned successfully.

It was more that the first statement is correct, but the second statement isn't - so which is the correct answer?


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:10 pm
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I can't see what the problem is.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:12 pm
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Ahh, but the second statement is below it so the answer is false 🙂


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:12 pm
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just means that either a True or False answer can be passed or failed, depending on who is marking the test


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:14 pm
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Somebody needs their P45...

Not if the policy is to reduce the number of people coming to live in Britain.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:24 pm
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Erm..

Dolly [b]was not the first animal to be cloned[/b], she gained this attention in the media because she was the first to be cloned from an adult cell.

-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_%28sheep%29

So.. False.. probably.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:28 pm
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not sure what bearing this would have anyway, apart the ability to know or google the answer to a random question , what about , do you have a job and what contribution do you feel you could make to society ?


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 4:31 pm
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I fail all three do you want to live in Britain questions . When do you put your bins out? No idea. The cloning mammals one above and do you want to live in a country that rounds up dusky people and ships them off in police vans if they do not happen to be carrying documentary proof of their right to be here? I never carry documentary proof of my right to be here but fall outside of the group of suspects as like many illegals I am pale pink.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 6:40 pm
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Is a Tablet

1. A device for surfing the Internet
2. Something Moses used
3. An edible diabetic-inducing sweet

Pick one.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 6:58 pm
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That really is a daft question. Google suggests that the correct answer is false- the first reliable account of a cloned mammal was either in the US or UK (2 declared success at about the same time, calculus style) but neither was a rabbit, one was a cow and one was a sheep.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 7:13 pm
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Is this the test you get a booklet to revise from? So the correct answer is whatever is in the booklet.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 7:16 pm
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[i]Is this the test you get a booklet to revise from? So the correct answer is whatever is in the booklet. [/i]

This.

A few years ago an American that worked for me was sitting the test and I forget the exact question but it was about migration into the UK in the late 19th century - and the answer was Poland.

Poland didn't exist at that time, but it was the answer in the book...


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 8:02 pm
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Ah so it's [i]really[/i] testing that you'll accept whatever the UK goverment tell you is "the truth"?

Cunning.


 
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To be fair not knowing the history of another European country is terribly British.

In the same way as knowing a foreign language is rather un-british.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 10:23 pm
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I presume that they have the test in the various British languages including Welsh and Gaelic?


 
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I hope they have it in Doric.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 10:28 pm
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its false let me rephrase
is this true or false.

The americans put the first man on the moon. That man was Hulk Hogan


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 10:34 pm
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I hope they have it in Doric.

Middle Welsh for me... the Mabinogion rocks!


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 10:39 pm
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wow I don't have a solution to that problem. Although I will observe STW as much as possible 😀


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 10:51 pm
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I hope they have it in Doric.

As far as I can tell Doric is just english spoken by drunks?


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 11:39 pm
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And how British is that ?

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My wife HAD to take the test ,she failed the test 3 times and was 2 weeks away from having her visa expire and face deportation from the UK. This put tremendous strain on both of us ,our work and friends and family.We found a not too legal loop hole and got indefinite leave to remain .The Life in the UK test is really ,really irrelevant and difficult.i took the mock test 7 times and failed 7 times. Example - what or who is Hansard? now no cheating . I agree that immigration needs to be in check , but what if whilst travelling on a year out you fall in love and wish to live you life with your loved one in YOUR home country but the government makes it very hard ?? Its very complicated this subject and there are so many different situations .I found a white man working for 25 years has to pay over £6000 pound to live with his Asian wife in HIS own country .I had correspondence from the House of commons , but they are no help. It was a nightmare - All good now as we got Indefinite leave to remain and next year we are going to spend our savings living in the wife's country as they welcome me and actually place hard working foreign nationals in high esteem ,not as a problem !


 
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I had to do the test a few years ago (yes I am one of those bloody foreigners). I didn't bother to "learn" for the test, taking advice from others I simply got the model questions and answers book and learnt the relevant sections by rote. It took me about five minutes to write the test and I got 100%.

I totally failed to see the relevance of the test. As far as I can tell it simply tests your ability to memorise a few random and irrelevant facts. How that makes me or anyone else a suitable citizen is beyond me.


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 8:51 am
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trevron73 - sorry Mate, but is that English?


 
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trevron73 - sorry Mate, but is that English?

It seems like English to me. I take it English isn't your native language ?


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 9:53 am
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I found a white man

Relevance of skin colour is what exactly...?


 
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To be fair he made a point about his wife being Asian in the same sentence, but you didn't ask the relevance of that.


 
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I totally failed to see the relevance of the test. As far as I can tell it simply tests your ability to memorise a few random and irrelevant facts. How that makes me or anyone else a suitable citizen is beyond me.

It's there to placate the swivel-eyed faction of the Tory party:
They tend to believe all immigrants should have a compulsory tattoo of Winston Churchill on their arse, be able recite the complete works of Shakespeare and know the batting averages of every single England test player efore they're allowed to be sneered at by Brummies for having a silly accent.

No other reason.


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 10:13 am
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To be fair he made a point about his wife being Asian in the same sentence, but you didn't ask the relevance of that.

That's not relevant either. Skin colour and immigration are not related at all.


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 10:21 am
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And I make both my points being myself of mixed parentage from Asian and white European English parents, which also has no relevance!


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 10:24 am
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That's not relevant either

So why didn't you ask him ? He made the point in the same sentence.

Have you an issue with someone being referred to as white but not Asian ?


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 10:24 am
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So why didn't you ask him ?

That's us what I did Ernie. However I didn't see the necessity of making an identical point twice. So just for you and to avoid more of your somewhat obvious obtuseness... The cultural background and skin colour of a). the British citizen and; b). His wife who wishes to stay are totally irrelevant to his point.

Maybe that's clearer to you now?

Edited to remove typo


 
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Well it would have been clearer if you had asked what is the relevance of you being white and your wife being Asian. Instead of just asking what is the relevance of being white.

I get the impression that you have an issue with someone being referred to as white but not if they are referred to as asian.

I agree with you though, the reference to race seems pointless. I just don't think there was anything sinister about it. Perhaps he was just trying to point out that whilst his wife was Asian he wasn't ?


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 10:37 am
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I didn't think it was sinister - just a little curious and our of place...


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 10:39 am
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I get the impression that you have an issue with someone being referred to as white but not if they are referred to as asian.

Nope


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 11:21 am
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It's there to placate the swivel-eyed faction of the Tory party:
They tend to believe all immigrants should have a compulsory tattoo of Winston Churchill on their arse, be able recite the complete works of Shakespeare and know the batting averages of every single England test player efore they're allowed to be sneered at by Brummies for having a silly accent.
No other reason.

This.


 
Posted : 03/08/2013 11:22 am
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It's there to placate the swivel-eyed faction of the Tory party:

Aha.

Immigration is a threat to swiveleyesation.


 
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🙂


 
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Immigration is a threat to swiveleyesation.

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Thing is... Anyone who's dealt with any part of UK immigration policy knows how it works. Everything is designed just to throw random obstructions and difficulties in people's way. Not relevant or useful obstructions, though.

Frinstance, student visas- every year, it takes longer and costs more to get a student visa, more conditions are placed on them, more are rejected purely on technicalities. It's a policy decision to make the process bloody awkward, just to arbitrarily reduce the number of successful applicants. Want to change from a student visitor to a student tier 4 visa (ie, you came to the UK to study a course lower than degree level, and now want to study a degree)? Leave the country, apply in your home country, then come back. No reason at all for this other than to make it expensive and difficult. And that's just students- an uncomplicated cash cow for UK universities with very few drawbacks.

(and it's absolutely bloody stupid, because students almost all leave after their years are up- so decreasing numbers doesn't reduce net immigration at all, it just gives a false decrease today which will be offset in a few years by a reduction in people leaving. Though I guess they're planning on not being in power then so they can go "Labour is increasing teh immigrationz!1!!"

So, it's not surprising to find that the hoops put in the place of applicants aren't just difficult, but completely bloody stupid- the job isn't to sift immigrants into "good immigrants" and "bad immigrants", it's just to deter x % of immigrants at random without a care which ones it is. Might as well roll a dice, it'd be more honest.


 
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Evening guys . The relevance was i'm white my wife is a foreign lady who wishes to live with her husband but as she is not European had to pay £6000 pounds to do so ? My government did not welcome my wife and we jumped through hoops (and still do) .It is a horrible affair this immigration.I had the same views as most about illegal immigrants until i fell in love with a girl from far away and she was treated as second class and treat as though she was not worthy to be here . I am also sorry my grammer was not up to the usual standards of STW but i am only a Chef ?;)
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I am also sorry my grammer was not up to the usual standards of STW but i am only a Chef ?;)

I understood perfectly what you were saying, I don't know why b r appeared to have a problem.

Sorry to hear btw that you've been messed about by laws which too often are brutal at the expense of human compassion. An open door policy for Europeans with no connection whatsoever to the UK, but heavy restrictions on the spouses of British citizens. Madness imo.


 
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Thanks Ernie , open door is not the answer ,but neither are irrelevant exams and stupid sums of money. Glad it all worked out -we are stronger than the house of commons? Roll on next year when we move over and i retire. At least the life in the UK test has now been scrapped as a means of suitability .Heaven knows what they will come up with . Still no answer on the Hansard question ???? come on guys ?? whats the view ??


 
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hansard is the written record kept by the UK parliament of debates- No google required


 
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